2017 NFL Draft Day 3 "Game Thread"

[ThatsMyJoeTerback]

Gooooose! I've got to say that this draft has been pretty good so far.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Happy to see an O-line addition. The defense has gotten better for sure and now with the pick of Siragusa this is good.

[Sami84]

great pick

 

Round 4, pick No. 122 overall: Nico Siragusa, G, San Diego State

Nico Siragusa had a dominant year in both phases of guard play in 2016. Siragusa’s 99.2 pass-blocking efficiency rating ranked No. 2 among guards in the draft class, and his run-block success rate of 93.4 percent also ranked No. 2 among guards in the class. — Jordan Plocher, @PFF_Jordan

 

also had the best combine results of ALL guards

[ALI624]

Liked him at the combine along with another o-lineman that I won't name because he will then be taken as soon as I post.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I'd sign Nick Mangold and call it a day with the oline. Kick Lewis out to RT. My worries about the oline are lessened. I think Siragusa can step in immediately and be a starter next to Stanley. 

[Underdogsontop!]

3 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

Yes Asiata still there..

And Dorian Johnson. Wow, they must see something we don't 

[ravensnation5220]

Just now, Sami84 said:

great pick

 

Round 4, pick No. 122 overall: Nico Siragusa, G, San Diego State

Nico Siragusa had a dominant year in both phases of guard play in 2016. Siragusa’s 99.2 pass-blocking efficiency rating ranked No. 2 among guards in the draft class, and his run-block success rate of 93.4 percent also ranked No. 2 among guards in the class. — Jordan Plocher, @PFF_Jordan

 

also had the best combine results of ALL guards

Ya I remember him grading very well at pff. Only issue was level of competition

[GrimCoconut]

Just now, Underdogsontop! said:

And Dorian Johnson. Wow, they must see something we don't 

Johnson was off the board

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Well there's the nasty, powerful interior OL we've been waiting for. 

Clear sign we're going away from the stretch zone bc he's not a mover in space. But he can anchor to handle bull rushes and will move his guy off the line. 

Good pick. Could start early kicking Lewis out to RT or maybe they think he can play a little at C. 

We'll see. 

[GrimCoconut]

If we can come away with Desmond King in the 5th then wow! I hope he continues to fall

[MadStorkSociety]

2 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

great pick

 

Round 4, pick No. 122 overall: Nico Siragusa, G, San Diego State

Nico Siragusa had a dominant year in both phases of guard play in 2016. Siragusa’s 99.2 pass-blocking efficiency rating ranked No. 2 among guards in the draft class, and his run-block success rate of 93.4 percent also ranked No. 2 among guards in the class. — Jordan Plocher, @PFF_Jordan

 

also had the best combine results of ALL guards

Wow, thanks for the info

[ravensnation5220]

Just now, Underdogsontop! said:

And Dorian Johnson. Wow, they must see something we don't 

Dorian Johnson was gone. Siragusa was a better pick than Asiata

[rossihunter2]

1 minute ago, Underdogsontop! said:

And Dorian Johnson. Wow, they must see something we don't 

Dorian Johnson was taken ahead of us

[ravensnation5220]

Just now, GrimCoconut said:

If we can come away with Desmond King in the 5th then wow! I hope he continues to fall

Amen!

[The Raven]

Omg guys I think I'm in love with Siragusa

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just now, The Raven said:

Omg guys I think I'm in love with Siragusa

I knew you would be. He's a guy who has to turn on his nasty all the time , but at least it's there. 

[ravensnation5220]

Just now, The Raven said:

Omg guys I think I'm in love with Siragusa

Ya hes a mover. Just remember Pumphrey broke the all time rushing record.....Siragusa opened a lot of those holes!

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Just now, rossihunter2 said:

Dorian Johnson was taken ahead of us

If he wasn't I think he would've been the pick. I had a mid 2nd round grade on him but maybe the medical concerns were greater than I thought. Just missed out on him. 

Hadnt paid a ton of attention to Siragusa but like the potential. Definite power blocker with size and some nastiness. And we're pretty darn good finding mid round gems on the OL so I trust the FO here. 

[hn68wb4]

THe feeling right now is exactly why you don't panic while the draft is only half over

[Underdogsontop!]

Just now, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

I'd sign Nick Mangold and call it a day with the oline. Kick Lewis out to RT. My worries about the oline are lessened. I think Siragusa can step in immediately and be a starter next to Stanley. 

Just wondering, you think our o line will be set with that? A rookie LG, mangold at C(not sure if we'll get pro bowl mangold) and then kick out what I'd still consider a rookie because he never played a full season his 1st year to RT? Honestly I'm not comfortable with that, not now, not after last years performance. I hope I become comfortable like you.

[The Raven]

Just now, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

I knew you would be. He's a guy who has to turn on his nasty all the time , but at least it's there. 

He ain't no zone blocker so that shows a lot about where we're going but holy moly this guy next to Stanley? With Yanda two slots down? We finally have that nasty, mean bully.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just now, Underdogsontop! said:

Just wondering, you think our o line will be set with that? A rookie LG, mangold at C(not sure if we'll get pro bowl mangold) and then kick out what I'd still consider a rookie because he never played a full season his 1st year to RT? Honestly I'm not comfortable with that, not now, not after last years performance. I hope I become comfortable like you.

 

Mangold should at least be solid. An upgrade over Zuttah he was still better last year. I think Nico could be good off the bat, and Lewis could be good at RT. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1 minute ago, The Raven said:

Omg guys I think I'm in love with Siragusa

Haha I was waiting for you to chime in. Thought you were gonna like this pick. 

Clear indication that we're committing to more power/gap/inside zone and away from stretch zone??

Love this kids power and nastiness. Pretty darn good anchor too. 

Then theres the name of course. 

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

Keep the O lineman coming with the next 2 picks, no playmakers left, top priority is to solidify the oline at this point, and go with what you got on offense, or buy some playmakers

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

2 minutes ago, The Raven said:

He ain't no zone blocker so that shows a lot about where we're going but holy moly this guy next to Stanley? With Yanda two slots down? We finally have that nasty, mean bully.

 

Yup. I actually like the oline now. I hope my boy Guerillmo falls and we get Mangold so we can let him develop. I wonder if we take another guard, and put Yanda at center?

[Sami84]

2 minutes ago, Underdogsontop! said:

Just wondering, you think our o line will be set with that? A rookie LG, mangold at C(not sure if we'll get pro bowl mangold) and then kick out what I'd still consider a rookie because he never played a full season his 1st year to RT? Honestly I'm not comfortable with that, not now, not after last years performance. I hope I become comfortable like you.

 

here is the thing about mangold. his ony reall decline has come in the run game..in pass protection he is still elite

[terps85]

Not sure this really indicates they are moving away from zone.  While he is powerful, he's still really athletic.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Any chance they think he can play C? I mean I know a 4th rd pick is no guarantee to start.... but I certainly hope he can. In that case though either he or Lewis has to move.... and goose ain't a RT. 

[The Raven]

Just now, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Haha I was waiting for you to chime in. Thought you were gonna like this pick. 

Clear indication that we're committing to more power/gap/inside zone and away from stretch zone??

Love this kids power and nastiness. Pretty darn good anchor too. 

Then theres the name of course. 

See, I do have a question. His combine numbers were phenomenal, and as I watch film right now, they did run some zone.

I think this is a clear indication -- along with the Alex Lewis pick last year -- that we want to get away from zone. But, I think this is a guy who can be a zone guy sometimes. I think he'd project well as a guard playing in the inside zone.

But make no mistake: This guy is a power blocker. We're gonna run Iso and Power for days behind him.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just now, The Raven said:

See, I do have a question. His combine numbers were phenomenal, and as I watch film right now, they did run some zone.

I think this is a clear indication -- along with the Alex Lewis pick last year -- that we want to get away from zone. But, I think this is a guy who can be a zone guy sometimes. I think he'd project well as a guard playing in the inside zone.

But make no mistake: This guy is a power blocker. We're gonna run Iso and Power for days behind him.

 

That makes sense since Roman does implement the usage of several schemes. We need to go find a scheme versatile guy at center.