2017 NFL Draft Day 3 "Game Thread"

[allblackraven]

18 minutes ago, Jonah DeVito said:

@allblackraven If you want to see incredible instincts watch Lorenzo Jerome. Ridiculous ball skills. The knock on him is he is from a small school and a little small, but he played great at the senior bowl and NFLPA game. He is also a great kick returner.

Mentioned before, I haven't had much time to watch as many players as I'd like. Will check him out, at least highlight reel before the clock starts.

[808Blackbirds]

Just now, Jonah DeVito said:

Either you are an Alabama fan or...

nope not bama fan.

just a fan of eddie. i wanted him last year

[Jonah DeVito]

5 minutes ago, 808Blackbirds said:

nope not bama fan.

just a fan of eddie. i wanted him last year

Oh I gotcha, we all have our draft crushes. Cant blame ya

[Jonah DeVito]

19 minutes ago, 808Blackbirds said:

yea and the ravens do have a dominate front 7.. 

I wouldn't say we have a dominant front 7 at all. Lots of question marks.

[Ravenslifer]

Malachi Dupree is someone I've watched pretty closely.  LSU quarterback play did him no favors.  Josh Reynolds out of A&M I think is still out there, I think he's a very underrated player.  Damonte Kazee is an interesting guy, small but quick, good instincts, and I liked what I saw from him at the Senior Bowl.

Edited Saturday at 10:28 AM by Ravenslifer

[allblackraven]

23 minutes ago, Jonah DeVito said:

He is a good returner. However he was fortunate enough to play with a dominate front 7 and which made his life very easy. I wouldn't say great instincts, id say average. Numerous interceptions of his were handed right to him due to terrible throws (thanks to the front 7). Loses track of his coverage responsibilities as he tries too hard anticipating the QB. Still needs improvement in the physical part of his game. Its really just one of those situations where the surrounding cast makes the player look so much better than he really is.

I don't buy into that argument too much, front 7 also relies on guys to cover at the back.

Jackson definitely has room to improve but he's been a safety for just 2 seasons, after playing WR in high school and CB in his first season in college. The only real knock on him for me is physicality but he'd have time to improve on that while learning from the master.

[Jonah DeVito]

6 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

I don't buy into that argument too much, front 7 also relies on guys to cover at the back.

Jackson definitely has room to improve but he's been a safety for just 2 seasons, after playing WR in high school and CB in his first season in college. The only real knock on him for me is physicality but he'd have time to improve on that while learning from the master.

Bama's front 7 relies on no one. His job was just way too easy. I don't think his film shows great instincts at all, decent at best. Put him in a tougher situation and he wouldn't look nearly as good as he did at Alabama, and to me he didn't look that great to begin with. Take away his return skills and it would be quite a while before his name was called. He does have some upside, but I really don't see him excelling in the NFL beyond being a return man for reasons I already stated. But I'm no scout so what do I know.

Edited Saturday at 09:36 AM by Jonah DeVito

[808Blackbirds]

4 minutes ago, Jonah DeVito said:

Oh I gotcha, we all have our draft crushes. Cant blame ya

blame me for what? just cause i like a great player makes him overhyped? 

[arnie_uk]

1 minute ago, 808Blackbirds said:

blame me for what? just cause i like a great player makes him overhyped? 

Saying he's better than a top 3 player in the draft in Adams does yea

[808Blackbirds]

1 minute ago, Jonah DeVito said:

Bama's front 7 relies on no one. His job was just way too easy. I don't think his film shows great instincts at all. Put him in a tougher situation and he wouldn't look nearly as good as he did at Alabama, and to me he didn't look that great to begin with. Take away his return skills and it would be quite a while before his name was called. He does have some upside, but I really don't see him excelling in the NFL beyond being a return man for reasons I already stated.

so he was just lucky for those 6 ints that one year. He's a better safety and has better instincts than jabrill peppers that went in the first round. he can cover better than adams too.

[808Blackbirds]

2 minutes ago, arnie_uk said:

Saying he's better than a top 3 player in the draft in Adams does yea

before he broke leg he was better than adams

[Jonah DeVito]

Just now, 808Blackbirds said:

blame me for what? just cause i like a great player makes him overhyped? 

Dude. Chill the heck out. "I cant blame you" is a saying, which means that you are justified in your thinking. Everyone has a draft crush and he is yours, that's it.  Also, he isn't a "great player". There is a reason like a dozen safeties have been taken and he is still on the board. He just isn't that good.  You are very much overhyping him, you said you liked him better than Jamal Adams for crying out loud.

[Jonah DeVito]

1 minute ago, 808Blackbirds said:

before he broke leg he was better than adams

No, just no.

[808Blackbirds]

Just now, Jonah DeVito said:

Dude. Chill the heck out. "I cant blame you" is a saying, which means that you are justified in your thinking. Everyone has a draft crush and he is yours, that's it.  Also, he isn't a "great player". There is a reason like a dozen safeties have been taken and he is still on the board. He just isn't that good.  You are very much overhyping him, you said you liked him better than Jamal Adams for crying out loud.

he's falling cause he broke his leg mid season.

[808Blackbirds]

Just now, Jonah DeVito said:

No, just no.

plus they are both different types of safety anyways. i just like what eddie brings.

[Jonah DeVito]

Just now, 808Blackbirds said:

he's falling cause he broke his leg mid season.

He is right where he should be

[Jonah DeVito]

4 minutes ago, 808Blackbirds said:

plus they are both different types of safety anyways. i just like what eddie brings.

Take away his return skills and he brings nothing any other FS doesn't, besides less physicality.

Edited Saturday at 09:48 AM by Jonah DeVito

[allblackraven]

10 minutes ago, Jonah DeVito said:

Take away his return skills and he brings nothing any other FS doesn't.

This is wrong.

[Jonah DeVito]

1 minute ago, allblackraven said:

This is wrong.

Your reasoning?

[Static]

Well at this point potential is everything so. Look for athletic lineman and size like WRs

[BSHU_Miami]

59 minutes ago, 808Blackbirds said:

nope not bama fan.

just a fan of eddie. i wanted him last year

if were talking about Bamaplayers I want calvin ridely next year

[allblackraven]

30 minutes ago, Jonah DeVito said:

Your reasoning?

Just watch some games from 2015/16 and don't paraphrase player's scouting profile from nfl.com.

[sflegend89]

We just might have the best defense in the league and a bottom 5 offense. Dede Westbrook would be a great pick, I would trade up for him at this point, we stocked up so heavy on defense that we might as well get an offensive prospect who can actually ball even if it requires giving up our 5th or 6th round pick.

[jazz1988]

Best available offensive players

WR Chad Hansen,Ryan Switzer, Malahi Duprees, Robert Davis,  Josh Reynolds, Artavis Scott

OG Dorian Johnson, Issac Asista,Nico Siragusa, Danny Isidora, Zach Banner,Jordan Morgan

OT Roderick Johnson, Julien Davenport ,David Sharpe,Will Holden,Adam Bisnowaty

TE&FB Bucky Hodges,Adam Shaheen, Jake Butt, Jordan Legett, George Kittle, Sam Rogers, Freddie Stevenson

RB Marlon Mack, Samaje Perine , Jamaal Williams,Donnel Pumphrey, Mattews Dayes,TJ Logan

[rossihunter2]

Isaac Asiata

Roderick Johnson

Jordan Morgan

Jermaine Eluemunor

Adam Bisnowaty

Carl Lawson

Desmond King

Jake Butt

Isaiah Ford

Keion Adams

are all guys id like us to have a chance at today

Edited Saturday at 10:41 AM by rossihunter2

[jazz1988]

Just now, sflegend89 said:

We just might have the best defense in the league and a bottom 5 offense. Dede Westbrook would be a great pick, I would trade up for him at this point, we stocked up so heavy on defense that we might as well get an offensive prospect who can actually ball even if it requires giving up our 5th or 6th round pick.

I don't think The Ravens have any interest in Dede Westbrook because of his domestic violence situations.

[JoeyFlex5]

Isaiah Ford and either bisnowaty, Dorian Johnson, or Jon toth or elemuenor please. Chad Hansen is a decent prospect for us also

[RavensDieHard21]

If we got Dorian Johnson or Asiata in round 4 then got Orlosky or Toth in round 5, I would be pretty pumped. 

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, 808Blackbirds said:

before he broke leg he was better than adams

[Edgar]

1 hour ago, jazz1988 said:

Best available offensive players

WR Chad Hansen,Ryan Switzer, Malahi Duprees, Robert Davis,  Josh Reynolds, Artavis Scott

OG Dorian Johnson, Issac Asista,Nico Siragusa, Danny Isidora, Zach Banner,Jordan Morgan

OT Roderick Johnson, Julien Davenport ,David Sharpe,Will Holden,Adam Bisnowaty

TE&FB Bucky Hodges,Adam Shaheen, Jake Butt, Jordan Legett, George Kittle, Sam Rogers, Freddie Stevenson

RB Marlon Mack, Samaje Perine , Jamaal Williams,Donnel Pumphrey, Mattews Dayes,TJ Logan

George Little is a very good two way tight end.

Also we brought Josh Reynolds in for a private visit. He's a guy that doesn't wow you by way of measurable but always shows up on tape. Plays with lots of fire as well.

 

Edited Saturday at 12:06 PM by Edgar