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2017 NFL Draft Day 2 "Game Thread"

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1 minute ago, rmw10 said:

Why is there always one good person that goes to Pittsburgh?  Makes it so hard to like them lol

I know right. How can you hate on that kid after he went through all that with his lungs.

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1 hour ago, ravensnation5220 said:

We just won the draft lol. This defense is unreal

Everyone hates it but guess what? Defense wins championships. The offensive firework shows are overrated. Look at Pitt and Atlanta, both teams tried to fight fire with fire and got hosed by the pats. 

The pats are the league's Boogeyman and how do you knock them off? Not in a shootout with Brady, but rather, a suffocating defense. That's why Baltimore in it's prime as well as Denver has given the pats a run for their money. 

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Just now, hn68wb4 said:

As opposed to you? you've continued to misrepresent my opinion from the start with your delusions. I said we should have gone offense earlier - you ignored it and kept pushing your "you think we're fine on offense" message. I listed off how I thought we should have been more offensively minded in free agency - you responded that I agreed with Ozzie going all defense.  You are just going around the thread and seeing what you want to see, no sense in arguing with someone unable to be objective.

I quite literally went back over an hour of all your messages to me and none of that occurred.There was no mention of Wagner at all. Not in a response to me in any case. No mention of going offense earlier. This began with your list of what was still available and YOU saying what good talent was still available. If I missed a message that stated any of that, feel free to post it and I will apologize. I think you answered someone else and think you responded to me.

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2 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

so carl lawson makes it to day 3

Yeah, I will be surprised if someone does not grab him in the 4th. Maybe he will be there when we pick....lol

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3 hours ago, reed20 said:

The same people neg repping me are the same people that will be crying when our offense cant score past the first quarter. 🤣

 

But but we have Michael Campanaro and Perriman 🤣

 

Might as well keep on trying to build the 2000 Ravens defense the rest of the draft because our offense is due for another pathetic year.

Still want to neg rep me? 😂

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Just now, ravensdfan said:

I quite literally went back over an hour of all your messages to me and none of that occurred.There was no mention of Wagner at all. Not in a response to me in any case. No mention of going offense earlier. This began with your list of what was still available and YOU saying what good talent was still available. If I missed a message that stated any of that, feel free to post it and I will apologize. I think you answered someone else and think you responded to me.

I'll help you out. Didn't look hard did ya? I'll be waiting for that apology

24 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

Again, where did I say the offseason was great and our offense is in great position? I said before that we should have gone offense earlier in this draft, in the offseason I pushed hard for Tretter and Garcon, I said time and again that we should sign Wagner over Williams. The only one ignoring anything around here is you. You have convinced yourself that I said something I didn't. Feel free to look back at my posts from tonight, feel free to go back farther and it'll prove to you what I'm saying in this comment. Do you just want to be confrontational because you don't like the way our draft is going? perhaps that's a sign that you should sign off and go to bed.

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Just now, hn68wb4 said:

I'll help you out. Didn't look hard did ya? I'll be waiting for that apology

I will apologize since perhaps I misunderstood what you were saying in that post. . "I said BEFORE that we should have gone offense earlier" I took to mean you were claiming you had already said that in a reponse. Which you had not , to me at any rate.

 

So I do apologize for the misunderstanding there. I still never implied nor stated that you made any claim regarding the offseason and the offense being in a great position.

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14 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Everyone hates it but guess what? Defense wins championships. The offensive firework shows are overrated. Look at Pitt and Atlanta, both teams tried to fight fire with fire and got hosed by the pats. 

The pats are the league's Boogeyman and how do you knock them off? Not in a shootout with Brady, but rather, a suffocating defense. That's why Baltimore in it's prime as well as Denver has given the pats a run for their money. 

Blocking and a run game didn't hurt neither...of which are the same if not worse than in 2016. Losing wags and yes even zuttahs weak butt leave serious holes

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Just now, Drew P said:

Blocking and a run game didn't hurt neither...of which are the same if not worse than in 2016. Losing wags and yes even zuttahs weak butt leave serious holes

Here is the thing.  If the Ravens did not think they had someone BETTER than Zuttah on the roster, they would not have traded him.  They did trade him so someone on the roster they would have had be the starter instead of Zuttah.  That means the only big problem is RT which is a big problem but hopefully one that they can fix.

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42 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

can someone correct me if I'm wrong but is desmond king really still on the board?

Wouldn't even mind taking him despite having already taken 4 defensive players lmao

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2 minutes ago, Adreme said:

Here is the thing.  If the Ravens did not think they had someone BETTER than Zuttah on the roster, they would not have traded him.  They did trade him so someone on the roster they would have had be the starter instead of Zuttah.  That means the only big problem is RT which is a big problem but hopefully one that they can fix.

Who's currently on the roster that's perceptively better than Zuttah?

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1 minute ago, Adreme said:

Here is the thing.  If the Ravens did not think they had someone BETTER than Zuttah on the roster, they would not have traded him.

I don't think that's necessarily true. We certainly didn't have anyone better than Dumervil before we let him go. We probably have a plan for C, but I don't think that guy is currently on the roster.

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5 minutes ago, Adreme said:

Here is the thing.  If the Ravens did not think they had someone BETTER than Zuttah on the roster, they would not have traded him.  They did trade him so someone on the roster they would have had be the starter instead of Zuttah.  That means the only big problem is RT which is a big problem but hopefully one that they can fix.

I didn't see him when zuttah went down who is this mysterious heir apparent?

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44 minutes ago, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

Pees must be ecstatic 

 

41 minutes ago, BSHU_Miami said:

I swear if Pees doesn't have this as a top ranked defense i'll lose it

 

32 minutes ago, arnie_uk said:

Going to enjoy watching the defense this year. If they don't perform I will enjoy watching them under a new coach and co ordinator next year

Yup...

My thinking is the same in this order too.

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Wormleys Wisconsin tape is really good. I think he went exactly where he should have. And given the context of the two edge rushers we drafted, he's a good pick.

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7 minutes ago, flynismo said:

I don't think that's necessarily true. We certainly didn't have anyone better than Dumervil before we let him go. We probably have a plan for C, but I don't think that guy is currently on the roster.

Mangold?

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16 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Wouldn't even mind taking him despite having already taken 4 defensive players lmao

We haven't drafted a safety yet.

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I'm excited about this draft. I already thought the defense was top 5 it may be a top 3 defense at least on paper before the season. 

Unfortunately it will come at the cost of the offense still missing some pieces, but it is probably better having a top 3 defense and a 20th ranked offense than middle of the pack elsewhere. 

There is still plenty of time to find an offensive lineman, but I think the front office will be going with Perriman, Wallace, and Moore into next season and that scares me. 

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40 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Wouldn't even mind taking him despite having already taken 4 defensive players lmao

I'm not gonna lie - if carl lawson or Desmond king are still there when we pick - I know we have no offensive picks in this class but it'd be incredibly difficult to pass either of those guys up

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