2017 NFL Draft Day 2 "Game Thread"

[hn68wb4]

Just now, ravensdfan said:

So we grab in O lineman late and pray? Great strategy.

Nice ignoring the fact that this is ridiculous. It literally makes zero sense. Admit it, there is zero sense in this FA & draft and ignoring the side of the ball that lost the most during the off season and wasn't a powerhouse before it took those losses. How does that even make sense?

Again, where did I say the offseason was great and our offense is in great position? I said before that we should have gone offense earlier in this draft, in the offseason I pushed hard for Tretter and Garcon, I said time and again that we should sign Wagner over Williams. The only one ignoring anything around here is you. You have convinced yourself that I said something I didn't. Feel free to look back at my posts from tonight, feel free to go back farther and it'll prove to you what I'm saying in this comment. Do you just want to be confrontational because you don't like the way our draft is going? perhaps that's a sign that you should sign off and go to bed.

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

Pees must be ecstatic 

[jazz1988]

11 minutes ago, The Raven said:

That's a problem.

We have three holes. I'm not convinced Alex Lewis is a solution. And we've done nothing. We lost Wagner and fired Zuttah and we've done nothing to address that, so the solution is throw a 4 or 5 at an OL and hope they turn out? How do we know we'll get a Wagner and not a Jah Reid or Ramon Harewood?  I'm tired of ignoring of the offense. We lost guys and brought nobody in. We're not even back to where we were. How are we supposed to get better?

I honestly feel the same way you do but at same time how do you know we wont' be able to get some solid offensive picks in the next rounds .  We may end up getting the next Ricky Wagner, Jason Brown, and Edwin Mulatio . Some of The Raven better offensive line picks were drafted in the fourth or fifth round.

Edited Saturday at 03:24 AM by jazz1988

[Drew P]

7 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

and tankersley finally went - wasnt his biggest fan but he's a great value pick in the 3rd given his potential

Good one less cb we won't get

[hn68wb4]

1 minute ago, rossihunter2 said:

can someone correct me if I'm wrong but is desmond king really still on the board?

Yep, in my  opinion he should have gone off the board ages ago. Even if he's a safety at the next level the guy is just a playmaker and is polished - which might be the reason he's still around, maybe he has maxed out his potential already.

[cobrajet]

7 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

im more worried about our oline and our run game given that we might have some holes... not that i wanted us to pick olineman but i still worry about that position

I agree with that. I don't want our RB's getting tackled before they can even get back to the LOS or Joe getting strip sacked a few times a game or even worse - getting injured.

[Cville-Raven]

2 minutes ago, arnie_uk said:

Davis and Ross?

I like Williams more than Ross. I like Ross but I don't think he's a going to be the next AB. I think he's more of Djax type player if healthy. Still very productive. I think Davis will statistically resemble Amari cooper. Solid from day one but not elite.

[Drew P]

1 minute ago, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

Pees must be ecstatic 

Yup.CB's can now only play 15 yards off the los

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

Kafusi who?

[BSHU_Miami]

I swear if Pees doesn't have this as a top ranked defense i'll lose it

[ravensdfan]

4 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

Again, where did I say the offseason was great and our offense is in great position? I said before that we should have gone offense earlier in this draft, in the offseason I pushed hard for Tretter and Garcon, I said time and again that we should sign Wagner over Williams. The only one ignoring anything around here is you. You have convinced yourself that I said something I didn't. Feel free to look back at my posts from tonight, feel free to go back farther and it'll prove to you what I'm saying in this comment. Do you just want to be confrontational because you don't like the way our draft is going? perhaps that's a sign that you should sign off and go to bed.

How about you show me where I ever said you said anything of the kind? I only said you keep going on about going offense in the late rounds like that will be the injection they need instead of admitting this is purely illogical given our needs and losses. Considering you're the one losing it, I'd say you need some sleep.

Edited Saturday at 03:27 AM by ravensdfan

[Drew P]

I think Raven's go offense next pick.

Fullback it is

[rossihunter2]

1 minute ago, hn68wb4 said:

Yep, in my  opinion he should have gone off the board ages ago. Even if he's a safety at the next level the guy is just a playmaker and is polished - which might be the reason he's still around, maybe he has maxed out his potential already.

when i did my initial evaluations i had him as a a top 7 corner... to have him go below rasul douglas is a bit of a wake up call for me

[rossihunter2]

2 minutes ago, cobrajet said:

I agree with that. I don't want our RB's getting tackled before they can even get back to the LOS or Joe getting strip sacked a few times a game or even worse - getting injured.

i value the position and worry about it - but outside of the wormley pick i dont see a lineman value-wise that i'd prefer to our defensive picks

[ravensdfan]

Just now, Drew P said:

I think Raven's go offense next pick.

Fullback it is

lmbo

Doesn't matter, so why not?

[rmw10]

Loved what little I could actually find on Langley.  Developmental guy but so smooth athletically.

[rossihunter2]

it's crazy that the draftniks are talking about us getting into the developmental picks but i still see some instant contributors on the board - maybe im crazy...

[hn68wb4]

Just now, ravensdfan said:

How about you show me where I ever said you said anything of the kind? I only said you keep going on about going offense in the late rounds like that will be the injection they need instead of admitting this is purely illogical given our needs and losses.

Now are you going to deny that you implied that's what i was saying? I didn't say that would be the injection our offense needed to make it good. All I've said is that we have a history of finding linemen mid/late and you ran from there. I never even implied that these late round picks would make our offense even serviceable. What's illogical is discounting an entire draft when it's not even half way finished, but you don't seem interested in "admitting" that

[hn68wb4]

49ers traded up, is this where Lawson finally goes?

[trevorsteadman]

1 minute ago, hn68wb4 said:

49ers traded up, is this where Lawson finally goes?

Nope CJ Beathard

[trevorsteadman]

Terrible quarterback lmao

[ravensdfan]

Just now, hn68wb4 said:

Now are you going to deny that you implied that's what i was saying? I didn't say that would be the injection our offense needed to make it good. All I've said is that we have a history of finding linemen mid/late and you ran from there. I never even implied that these late round picks would make our offense even serviceable. What's illogical is discounting an entire draft when it's not even half way finished, but you don't seem interested in "admitting" that

Never did. And you know it or you would have posted it.

Sorry Ozzie does no wrong in your eyes.People are allowed to question his decisions. I don't know why you're getting so bent about it to be honest.

 

 

 

[BSHU_Miami]

I like brad Kaaya in the late rounds

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

I wonder what type of undrafted free agents are going to be left at the end of tomorrow?

We seem to get at least 1 guy who has a chip on his shoulder for being passed up in the draft I just hope it is either a OL or WR this year.

[purpletide]

4 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

i value the position and worry about it - but outside of the wormley pick i dont see a lineman value-wise that i'd prefer to our defensive picks

What are some postitives you see in the Wormley pick? I'm very happy with the others, but I'm not exactly sold on him.

[arnie_uk]

Going to enjoy watching the defense this year. If they don't perform I will enjoy watching them under a new coach and co ordinator next year

[hn68wb4]

Just now, ravensdfan said:

Never did. And you know it or you would have posted it.

Sorry Ozzie does no wrong in your eyes.People are allowed to question his decisions. I don't know why you're getting so bent about it to be honest.

lol, whatever you say bro. Literally just gave an example of Wagner/Williams of how I do not believe "Ozzie can do no wrong," but like most other things you ignored it. But whatever, go for you "get out of jail free" card, it's probably my favorite cop out when someone knows they've lost an argument and are running for the hills.

[ravensdfan]

Just now, arnie_uk said:

Going to enjoy watching the defense this year. If they don't perform I will enjoy watching them under a new coach and co ordinator next year

I hope we get to enjoy watching them. Because it's doubtful the offense will be on the field very long.

[Drew P]

1 minute ago, purpletide said:

What are some postitives you see in the Wormley pick? I'm very happy with the others, but I'm not exactly sold on him.

High motor high character competes hard I'm excited -harbs.

[rossihunter2]

1 minute ago, purpletide said:

What are some postitives you see in the Wormley pick? I'm very happy with the others, but I'm not exactly sold on him.

i'd have to go back into the tape to be honest - he's a guy i dismissed early on but for his size he's surprisingly athletic and flexible with some good upside - but id like to hold on to anything more expansive til i go back into the film