[News] Round 1 (No. 16): Ravens Select CB Marlon Humphrey

[budman]

3 hours ago, Malik45168 said:

Here are some late round draft picks that turned out great guys we have 5 more rounds calm down

Richard sherman

Antonio brown

Brandon marshall

Robert mathis

Elvis dumervil

Marques colston

David johnson

And lets not forget zachary orr who went undrafted

 

They won't calm down because they know everything. If it's not the player THEY want or a big flashy name, they are going to say they suck and Ozzie sucks. To them, Ozzie is making all the decisions by himself so it is all on him. Little do they know.

Edited April 28 by budman

[vjecmenic]

  4 hours ago, vjecmenic said:

Point is that Ozzie excelled in picking GOOD guys in later rounds, Issue is that his picks in first 2 rounds in previous years were made by "playing it safe". And those safe picks were, mostly, a miss.
What is perplexing for me here is that Alabama players, in last few years, didn't show almost anything in pro's (Mosely is an exemption) and still he chooses M. Humphrey...
Ravens needs to find someone that will be a face of franchise (like R. Lewis, E. Reed). I would like to hear what players do come to mind to casual NFL fan when they mention Ravens. Right now this is a group of good players without a leader. Please, try to differentiate between guys leading by example and a leader.

"...Alabama players, in last few years, didn't show almost anything in pro's (Mosely is an exemption) and still he chooses M. Humphrey..."

2015: Landon Collins (All Pro Safety)
2014: Ha Ha Clinton-Dix (Pro Bowl Safety)

It's inaccurate to say Alabama players haven't shown anything in the last few years. 3 Bama DBs have been selected in the first two rounds since 2013, and two of those three are Pro Bowl calibre...I'd say that's a pretty good showing. Heck, you've also got Amari Cooper in the 2015 class who is a perennial Pro Bowler.

People need to hold off judgement and stop calling Ozzie a failure, just because he didn't do what all the mock drafts and "expert" fans say he should have done.

Year Round Pick Player
2013 NFL 1 9 NYJ Dee Milliner
2013 NFL 1 10 TEN Chance Warmack
2013 NFL 1 11 SDG D.J. Fluker
2012 NFL 1 3 CLE Trent Richardson
2012 NFL 1 7 TAM Mark Barron
2010 NFL 1 8 OAK Rolando McClain
...

The issue is not that Humphrey will not be good - he might be but there are even lower chance that he will be great. Also, all our previous picks in first and second round are like this. They are just good or busts. Not great players.

You don't have to be "expert fan" to judge Ozzie's decisions
1 Breshad Perriman
2 Timmy Jernigan
1 Matt Elam
2 Arthur Brown
2 Courtney Upshaw
1 Jimmy Smith
2 Torrey Smith
2 Sergio Kindle
2 Terrence Cody
1 Michael Oher
2 Paul Kruger
At most this is a list of just good players...
And than we wonder why we don't get into playoffs!??

[goldenboldin]

  2 hours ago, birdseye said:

Here come all the arm chair GM's.... probably same turds who hated on the ronnie stanley pick last year. we have 3 more picks today, if we can somehow manage OLB, WR, OL then were talkin'.

^^^ THIS!!!!

doesn't take a genius to know the ravens have slipped in recent drafts. let's not be a homer in the face of evidence

[The Mom Gene]

So many people on here have complained about Jimmy Smith and Webby staying healthy. YES, there were a couple of other guys that some may say ranked higher on the BPA scale. I'm not so sure, personally. The other two guys that I would have thought, both have health issues or character issues.

We have seen in the past couple of years where our secondary has gotten decimated, specifically the corners. This guy is an awesome player.

I'm not disappointed AT ALL!

WELCOME TO BALTIMORE MARLON.... TIME TO BUCKLE IT UP DUDE!

[goldenboldin]

I think a lot of people are also upset that we picked a CB in a deep class of corners.... while you had OJ Howard the best TE in the draft sitting there. This team historically has not helped Joe Flacco with perennial offensive playmakers as much as they should've. I wasn't excepting them to trade up for receivers but when a big TE falls in your lap, it makes sense to take him. 

 

Then what makes it worse is when Harbaugh starts gushing about the special teams ability of Humphrey. A 16th overall pick for a special teamer? Yeah. I get why fans are upset. Let's not demean them for feeling that way.

Edited April 28 by goldenboldin

[The Mom Gene]

I think a lot of people are also upset that we picked a CB in a deep class of corners.... while you had OJ Howard the best TE in the draft sitting there. This team historically not helped Joe Flacco with perennial offensive playmakers as much as they should've. I wasn't excepting them to trade up for receivers but when a big TE falls in your lap, it makes sense to take him. 

 

Then what makes it worse is when Harbaugh starts gushing about the special teams ability of Humphrey. A 16th overall pick for a special teamer? Yeah. I get why fans are upset. Let's not demean them for feeling that way.

We have 6 TE's. Pitta, Gilmore, Waller, Williams, Watson, and Boyle.

[cmillionard3]

12 hours ago, The Negotiator said:

The year we lost out on Dez Bryant is when Ozzie lost his mojo. Our drafts have been average at best!!!!

Dallas moved ahead of us for Dez......

[The Beak]

4 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

I thought Humphrey was one of the players we would strongly be considering.
There were only 2 players I was really hoping we didn't take at 16, that I though would be a possibility. Cam was # 2. #1 was Marlon. Absolute worst case scenario and then some imo. We'll see.
As incredibly painful as yesterday was, I still somehow stand by what I was think before the draft started.
Friday is more important this Thursday this year. For sure.
I'm REALLY hoping we give up a 2018 pick or two for another pick or 2 today (Friday)

Doom:  You need to calm down and give the kid a chance , the first round is behind us M Humphreys is now a Raven, so lets support him. Maybe Oz will surprise you today, IMHO I thought Evan Engram was the best TE prospect of this draft.

[cmillionard3]

12 hours ago, The Negotiator said:

Ever since we missed out on Dez zero pro bowlers and a bunch of what if's.

Mosley aint a pro bowler......

[cmillionard3]

32 minutes ago, budman said:

They won't calm down because they know everything. If it's not the player THEY want or a big flashy name, they are going to say they suck and Ozzie sucks. To them, Ozzie is making all the decisions by himself so it is all on him. Little do they know.

just like how stanley was supposed to suck....

[Corvus]

16 minutes ago, The Mom Gene said:

We have 6 TE's. Pitta, Gilmore, Waller, Williams, Watson, and Boyle.

Yes we do. But Pitta is a wideout playing TE, he will never be a reliable blocker. Watson will be, what 37, 38 when the season starts? Waller is still a project at TE. Gillmore could be the complete TE we need but multiple injuries, plus he will be a free agent after this season. Boyle as well but I have zero faith in him not getting suspended AGAIN. I think it'sstill too early to pigeon hole Williams as a bust but last season was not a good indicator...

I'm not hating on Humphrey, I get the selection and he has great potential if he can shore up his deep pass coverage. But he does still need a fair amount of work there and as of this moment is our 4th CB. Why not get the consensus best complete TE when our current group is basically a collection of "potential?" Why not get a guy to give us an actual interior pass rush for once in the longest time? I don't think people that aren't big fans of the pick are disappointed with Humphrey himself, just who the front office passed over for him. Only time will tell though.

[20306cab]

1 hour ago, The Mom Gene said:

We have 6 TE's. Pitta, Gilmore, Waller, Williams, Watson, and Boyle.

Yeah, but the Ravens could have actually gotten a GOOD one.

[RavenLunatic]

Does any other GM in the NFL have such an infatuation with a college more than Ozzie with Alabama?

I'm begging to get tired of it. I feel like he has blinders on.

[The Mom Gene]

6 minutes ago, RavenLunatic said:

Does any other GM in the NFL have such an infatuation with a college more than Ozzie with Alabama?

I'm begging to get tired of it. I feel like he has blinders on.

That question would have been asked even if O.J. Howard were taken..... 

[TheConquerorWorm]

  2 hours ago, cmillionard3 said:

  4 hours ago, birdseye said:

Here come all the arm chair GM's.... probably same turds who hated on the ronnie stanley pick last year. we have 3 more picks today, if we can somehow manage OLB, WR, OL then were talkin'.

^^^ THIS!!!!

doesn't take a genius to know the ravens have slipped in recent drafts. let's not be a homer in the face of evidence

What evidence? You name a player the Ravens drafted that hasn't worked out and I'll name 5 players drafted ahead of him that are bigger busts.

50% of ALL 1st Round Picks are Busts! 85% of ALL players drafted never become starters.

[RavensDieHard21]

I was a bit let down when Barnett, Allen, Hooker, OJ and Foster were sitting there at 14, then Hooker and Barnett went. 

I thought the pick would easily be Allen or Foster, but I get why they went Marlon. 

What has plagued us since the 12' SB? Injuries and a porous secondary. We have had major injuries every year that have kept us from getting back to the big game. In 14' we were abused without Jimmy and it was the same exact case when he went down this December. 

I think Allen should have been the pick, even with his arthritic shoulders. He still could give us a really good interior pass rusher. But do you blame Ozzie for wanting a guy that he knows will suit up every Sunday? 

[vjecmenic]

  6 hours ago, Malik45168 said:

Here are some late round draft picks that turned out great guys we have 5 more rounds calm down

Richard sherman

Antonio brown

Brandon marshall

Robert mathis

Elvis dumervil

Marques colston

David johnson

And lets not forget zachary orr who went undrafted

 

They won't calm down because they know everything. If it's not the player THEY want or a big flashy name, they are going to say they suck and Ozzie sucks. To them, Ozzie is making all the decisions by himself so it is all on him. Little do they know.

Of course that we are ignorant and think that Ozzie decides himself...
So please, in future, when you reference in Ozzie we trust, add DeCosta, Bisciotti, Harbaugh... to enlighten the masses.

And of course that it is the issue that Ravens didn't pick "big, flashy name". It seems that front office in recent years drafts pick only supporting role players.

@Malik45168:
And yet again - non of those players are playing for the Ravens...

[powers2be]

Does any other GM in the NFL have such an infatuation with a college more than Ozzie with Alabama?

I'm begging to get tired of it. I feel like he has blinders on.

Alabama is the best college football program going and I say this as an Notre Dame fan. If recent memory, every year the team competes for the National Title Saban is the best at recruiting top talent at every position and the organization is 2nd to none at developing that talent at every position. I am not an Ozzie apologist. Obviously he didn't draft the player you wanted but it seems like maybe you are the one with the blinders on.

[Crusader]

  15 hours ago, The Negotiator said:

Ever since we missed out on Dez zero pro bowlers and a bunch of what if's.

Mosley aint a pro bowler......

Ravens don't believe in pro bowlers. That's why they don't have any.

[ellicottraven]

14 hours ago, YorkCountyRaven said:

I called this pick, Humphrey is a great pick who plays like a Raven. Athletic, relentless, and covers well. Welcome to Baltimore. Have fun covering AB, AJ Green, and possibly Gordon.

God help Marlon if indeed he is assigned to those players.

[ellicottraven]

3 hours ago, The Mom Gene said:

We have 6 TE's. Pitta, Gilmore, Waller, Williams, Watson, and Boyle.

All together they make one full and serviceable TE that plays an entire year!

[KidNme]

The Ravens know what they're doing but I am a little surprised at us picking a CB first with so much talent still on the board. Having said that though, they have a lot more info on these guys than I do. If they think Humphries was the BPA then, I can't wait to see him on the field breaking up passes and returning a few.
This just makes rounds 2 and 3 even more interesting. We will have a scary secondary so I hope teams don't run it down our throats now. We also won;t be putting up many points if there's still 3 gaping holes on our O-Line PLUS, only having Suggs, Judon and Smith to rush the passer, we better have a great secondary.
Won't know for sure how this pans out until these guys start playing anyway.

[ByTheBay]

6 hours ago, law215 said:

Pros:

Ravens have improved the secondary. Yes, he is a reached, but Are you confident Smith stays healthy?

Where are the fans that are so happy we resign Webb, who was on the cap for $8M having Brown and AJ Green torch him. He's cheaper now, but is he any good.

Where are the Fans that thought Wright was a good signing.

Joe will look for Pitta first regardless of who else is playing TE.

Cons:
I think OJ Howard may be a BEAST J Allen

Suggs is old, Charles Harris would have been a reach too. The true elite pass rushers rarely fall out of top 15. However, how are the Ravens planning to get to the QB.

Must draft pass rusher next or CB means nothing

Ozzie drafted for pass rush last year. You have to give these guys time to develop. Do you really think it is a good idea to use high draft picks on pass rush two years in a row or maybe we should try a few other possitions. Just because everyone says we need to draft pass rush does not make it so. I will trust the people running the team to know what is best.

And are you kidding me with this not happy about our secondary crap? You can argue about pass rush vs secondary all you want but this secondary is so stacked it WILL give our guys more time to get to the QB. 

[ByTheBay]

2 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

God help Marlon if indeed he is assigned to those players.

It's a good thing we have 2 all pro safety's to back him up not to mention Jimmy and Carr to draw the assignment if need be. I'm really excited now.

[ByTheBay]

2 hours ago, Crusader said:

Ravens don't believe in pro bowlers. That's why they don't have any.

You must not believe in optimism. 

That's why you don't have any. 😀

[ByTheBay]

4 hours ago, RavenLunatic said:

Does any other GM in the NFL have such an infatuation with a college more than Ozzie with Alabama?

I'm begging to get tired of it. I feel like he has blinders on.

Since 2010 there have been 51 players from Alabama drafted. The Ravens have only drafted 4. The only one that didnt work out was Cody

[mmcclend]

5 hours ago, RavenLunatic said:

Does any other GM in the NFL have such an infatuation with a college more than Ozzie with Alabama?

I'm begging to get tired of it. I feel like he has blinders on.

Pretty idiotic post to be honest. We have a grand total of 2 players from bama on our roster including Marlon. everybody wants to throw a fit when we don't draft their guy smh.

[Halshayeji]

19 hours ago, b-morebrotha said:

No more trust in Ozzie. He and Harbs hanging their hat on this pick and I think they're dunzo. DeCosta up next

I disagree 100 percent with your claim. Decosta is currently in charge of the draft not Ozzie.

side note here, did you see Decostas face during the post draft press conference? He seemed pissed!!!

[BMORE21]

we were better off selecting budda baker honestly 

[vjecmenic]

  8 hours ago, law215 said:

Pros:

Ravens have improved the secondary. Yes, he is a reached, but Are you confident Smith stays healthy?

Where are the fans that are so happy we resign Webb, who was on the cap for $8M having Brown and AJ Green torch him. He's cheaper now, but is he any good.

Where are the Fans that thought Wright was a good signing.

Joe will look for Pitta first regardless of who else is playing TE.

Cons:
I think OJ Howard may be a BEAST J Allen

Suggs is old, Charles Harris would have been a reach too. The true elite pass rushers rarely fall out of top 15. However, how are the Ravens planning to get to the QB.

Must draft pass rusher next or CB means nothing

Ozzie drafted for pass rush last year. You have to give these guys time to develop. Do you really think it is a good idea to use high draft picks on pass rush two years in a row or maybe we should try a few other possitions. Just because everyone says we need to draft pass rush does not make it so. I will trust the people running the team to know what is best.

And are you kidding me with this not happy about our secondary crap? You can argue about pass rush vs secondary all you want but this secondary is so stacked it WILL give our guys more time to get to the QB. 

Team is built from ground up. If you give QB time, DB's will not be able to cover receivers SO if there is no GREAT pass rush secondary will be shredded.