[News] Round 1 (No. 16): Ravens Select CB Marlon Humphrey

[BoominRaven]

I applaud that the Ravens finally wised up and took a CB high in the draft. I see a lot negative posts about the guy here and don't know a thing about him yet. I will say we have to wait until his first game (not mini-camp or training camp where Harbaugh will gush about his practice being the next Deion Sanders). You will know almost immediately in those first couple games if he can really cover or not. Watch him on another team's #1 WR and we'll know what we have then.

Well Gene since you haven't seen him play, all you need to know - 18 yards per catch allowed in college and nearly 50% of the balls thrown his way were caught. He plays a great press but if they get past the line they're going to burn him, we are going to see a lot of the back of this guys jersey...

[fusuymada]

I have to believe we didn't grab Reuben Foster because with Ozzie's connections he had inside info we don't have but O.J. Howard was a huge miss. After just signing Carr this was the last first round pick I thought we could make. Granted with the Bengals grabbing Ross to go with A.J Green and Martavius Bryant back along side of Brown, we definitely need corners. To me this says volumes about the feelings the Ravens have about Jimmy Smith's durability and if we had to draft a CB to cover for him then why did we give him all that money.

I know there are more picks left but round 2 and 3 have been Ozzies weakest in recent drafts by far.

I have heard more negative talk regarding Ozzie in the last 2 years than in the 15 before. Is "In Oz we Trust" more drinking the purple Kool-Aid than being realistic anymore.

When the curtain falls and the Wizard of Oz is exposed in the movie as being less than the grand image displayed, everyone is shocked. I think in real life we need to be less shocked now that the curtain has fallen and our downward draft spiral continues to be exposed.

[birdseye]

Here come all the arm chair GM's.... probably same turds who hated on the ronnie stanley pick last year. we have 3 more picks today, if we can somehow manage OLB, WR, OL then were talkin'.

[sizzlingdoom]

  16 minutes ago, sizzlingdoom said:

So anytime Marlon is on the field, we'll just make sure Weddle always has to cover him over the top? what a plan

even when marlon is not on the field i expect a safety over the top .

nothing radical about this tbh.

quite frankly i expect any defender not named jimmy to get safety help if they have to cover the opponent top receiver.

heck i could even see jimmy get help from time to time if has to go against guys as good as OBJ and julio tbh.

 

 

Well, I myself have faith in Jimmy playing one on one.
And Tavon.
And I don't think I'm alone with that opinion
Tavon proved himself last year. He ran with and covered AB down the field, and shut down Eifert from the goaline. As a rookie.
Carr is going to be much better than people expect too. He was a baller in KC as the # 2. Then he went to Dallas as the number 1 and was not bad when they did not have any pass rush. I think Carr was a really good grab.
And that's obviously not a relevant statement. Maybe 1 or 2 corners on the planet can try to stay with OBJ or Julio

[Tru11]

Just now, sizzlingdoom said:

Well, I myself have faith in Jimmy playing one on one.
And Tavon.
And I don't think I'm alone with that opinion
Tavon proved himself last year. He ran with and covered AB down the field, and shut down Eifert from the goaline. As a rookie.
Carr is going to be much better than people expect too. He was a baller in KC as the # 2. Then he went to Dallas as the number 1 and was not bad when they did not have any pass rush. I think Carr was a really good grab.
And that's obviously not a relevant statement. Maybe 1 or 2 corners on the planet can try to stay with OBJ or Julio

every corner in the NFL at some point got safety help.

so what is exactly the issue if marlon gets that in his rookie season?

even jimmy had help at times last season.

if you have faith in those guys going 1 on 1 than what is the problem with a safety giving help to marlon?

you plan on blitzing the safeties all the time leaving everyone else in 1 on 1?
you plan on going with 0 coverage all the time?

what exactly do you plan to do with the safeties if they are not supposed to provide help to anyone?

[sizzlingdoom]

  22 minutes ago, sizzlingdoom said:

I definitely do not expect that from Marlon. I expect him to get torched if he plays any 1 on 1 this year. Esp. vs Brown, Green, Ross, Bryant, Coleman. And those are just guys in our division.
And no, I've been a huge fan for about 12 years.
There are 4-6 corners that are better that are still on the board. We could've picked one of them today, while at the same time already having a pro bowl Center, RT, or Guard-Lamp
or an All Pro TE- OJ......but I already know the response there-
"we have a top 10 te group"
Pitta- my sister blocks better. overrated as a receiver, predictable handicap
Gilmore- can't get on the field
Watson- too old and coming off devastating injury
Maxx- A bust and " not strong enough" after his 2nd year in the league..........LOL REALLY?
Boyle- A good back up that was suspended most of the year
Waller-"potential" and everyone knows he's not a TE

Amazing to me that are fans are still enamored with the "potential" word

im pretty sure that if humphrey get to cover any of those receivers he will get safety help over the top.

if those CBs where better then him they would have gone in round 1 to and probably before him.
NFL teams dont agree with you.
nothing more to add to this.

also nobody is denying that OJ is a very talented TE.
But what makes you think that his talent would translate to being an all pro on the ravens?

for someone that says he has been a ravens fan for 12 years i really wonder based on what do you think we would all of sudden have the offense that gets players to  be considered an all pro?

 

you mean every wr in the division? lol
NFL teams don't agree? nothing more to add? LOL
Cuz all drafts, or wait any, end up anything close to an actual snake of overall talent and production when all is said and done? Cman Man.
Just watch, Tabor's and Awuzie's career will blow Marlon's away. Just a fun little thing for both of us to watch over the next couple years at least.
And I know what you're saying. But that's not what I'm saying. I don't know why people still get caught up with stats. Especially with football.
It doesn't matter if OJ goes to Tampa Bay and catches 95 balls for 1450 yards and 12 tds, or catches 65 with us for 900 yards and 9 scores. He's going to block the same, and be the same dominant overall type of player for his team. He would have the same impact regardless of stats. His impact towards helping us win would be the same. Every team has different styles and stats. Stats never tell the whole story. Not even close.

[Chuckx999]

Everyone says he can't stop the deep ball and there are 3-4 guys in our division who love and beat us with the deep ball. Just "NOT" the guy we needed!!
Maybe he will get better in 2-3 years, maybe??

[gooftroop]

Don't see why we passed on OJ Howard...

[Bat-mite]

We'd better be a shutdown defense, cause I don't see our offense scoring a whole lot of points right now. Maybe it will be like 2000 -- hold the other team to 11 points and kick four field goals to win.

[TheConquerorWorm]

  1 hour ago, The Greek said:

if and when brittle jimmy gets injured a lot of you naysayers will be grateful that humphrey was drafted. lets kick some butt on day 2

You would be 100% correct if we took someone like Tabor or Awuzie. Not to mention they're still on the board.
This guy got absolutely torched down the field, IN COLLEGE, with one of the best Front 7's of all time in front of him................
You're telling me you want that going up against Brady and Ben? When It matters. Especially this year? We'll see.
In any case, I agree, let's kick butt day 2. It IS make or break time

What happened when your "better version of Boldin" WR JuJu lined up against him? 1 catch for 9 yards. Humphrey dominated him. So, if Humphrey is a bum CB, then JuJu must be a horrible WR that can't play against press coverage.

In Saban's defense, CB are put on an island with no safety help. Yes he got burned in a few games but he dominated in a few games as well. Kid is big, fast, physical, has elite closing speed and is only 20 years old! He needs to work on some technique issues - but that's it. Will be a stud CB in this league.

[Tru11]

3 minutes ago, sizzlingdoom said:

you mean every wr in the division? lol
NFL teams don't agree? nothing more to add? LOL
Cuz all drafts, or wait any, end up anything close to an actual snake of overall talent and production when all is said and done? Cman Man.
Just watch, Tabor's and Awuzie's career will blow Marlon's away. Just a fun little thing for both of us to watch over the next couple years at least.
And I know what you're saying. But that's not what I'm saying. I don't know why people still get caught up with stats. Especially with football.
It doesn't matter if OJ goes to Tampa Bay and catches 95 balls for 1450 yards and 12 tds, or catches 65 with us for 900 yards and 9 scores. He's going to block the same, and be the same dominant overall type of player for his team. He would have the same impact regardless of stats. His impact towards helping us win would be the same. Every team has different styles and stats. Stats never tell the whole story. Not even close.

his impact is clearly not the same if there is such a big difference in stats when on different teams while the way he plays remains the same.

those stats you listed could be pretty much the difference between all pro and pro bowl.

according to you he would be an all pro with the bucs and just a pro bowler here.

pretty much a difference in impact.

 

 

 

 

 

[The Greek]

1 hour ago, sizzlingdoom said:

You would be 100% correct if we took someone like Tabor or Awuzie. Not to mention they're still on the board.
This guy got absolutely torched down the field, IN COLLEGE, with one of the best Front 7's of all time in front of him................
You're telling me you want that going up against Brady and Ben? When It matters. Especially this year? We'll see.
In any case, I agree, let's kick butt day 2. It IS make or break time

would have been nice to see what frazier could do with this kid but we will find out in a year or 2 if it was the right pick to make.

[sizzlingdoom]

  1 hour ago, sizzlingdoom said:

  1 hour ago, The Greek said:

if and when brittle jimmy gets injured a lot of you naysayers will be grateful that humphrey was drafted. lets kick some butt on day 2

You would be 100% correct if we took someone like Tabor or Awuzie. Not to mention they're still on the board.
This guy got absolutely torched down the field, IN COLLEGE, with one of the best Front 7's of all time in front of him................
You're telling me you want that going up against Brady and Ben? When It matters. Especially this year? We'll see.
In any case, I agree, let's kick butt day 2. It IS make or break time

What happened when your "better version of Boldin" WR JuJu lined up against him? 1 catch for 9 yards. Humphrey dominated him. So, if Humphrey is a bum CB, then JuJu must be a horrible WR that can't play against press coverage.

In Saban's defense, CB are put on an island with no safety help. Yes he got burned in a few games but he dominated in a few games as well. Kid is big, fast, physical, has elite closing speed and is only 20 years old! He needs to work on some technique issues - but that's it. Will be a stud CB in this league.

I hope he will be a stud, we'll see.
You can't judge things off one game, there are way too many circumstances. Especially in college, you know that

[sizzlingdoom]

  1 hour ago, sizzlingdoom said:

You would be 100% correct if we took someone like Tabor or Awuzie. Not to mention they're still on the board.
This guy got absolutely torched down the field, IN COLLEGE, with one of the best Front 7's of all time in front of him................
You're telling me you want that going up against Brady and Ben? When It matters. Especially this year? We'll see.
In any case, I agree, let's kick butt day 2. It IS make or break time

would have been nice to see what frazier could do with this kid but we will find out in a year or 2 if it was the right pick to make.

Frazier was such a pick up. Just like our pretty much only other awesome recent coaching add, Kubiack, he was one and done. Big bummer. Hopefully I'm wrong about Marlon. Today is HUGE!!

[Raveninwv]

I feel bubble guts, and not the good kind either over this one.

[balfan23]

I know a lot of people seem disappointed. I can't help but feel a little of it myself, mainly when I hear that we wanted to trade up and failed to do so. That tells me we coveted either Reddick or Barnett. I went in hoping for WRs Williams or Davis (those hopes were quickly dashed) or I wanted edge rush with Reddick or Barnett. By all accounts, CB is strong in this draft and there are guys still on the board that many find comparable to Humphrey. Edge rusher seems it will be a lot more challenging a slot to fill. I don't know that there will be anyone remotely comparable to Reddick or Barnett when we're on the clock in day 2. 

[sizzlingdoom]

  25 minutes ago, sizzlingdoom said:

you mean every wr in the division? lol
NFL teams don't agree? nothing more to add? LOL
Cuz all drafts, or wait any, end up anything close to an actual snake of overall talent and production when all is said and done? Cman Man.
Just watch, Tabor's and Awuzie's career will blow Marlon's away. Just a fun little thing for both of us to watch over the next couple years at least.
And I know what you're saying. But that's not what I'm saying. I don't know why people still get caught up with stats. Especially with football.
It doesn't matter if OJ goes to Tampa Bay and catches 95 balls for 1450 yards and 12 tds, or catches 65 with us for 900 yards and 9 scores. He's going to block the same, and be the same dominant overall type of player for his team. He would have the same impact regardless of stats. His impact towards helping us win would be the same. Every team has different styles and stats. Stats never tell the whole story. Not even close.

his impact is clearly not the same if there is such a big difference in stats when on different teams while the way he plays remains the same.

those stats you listed could be pretty much the difference between all pro and pro bowl.

according to you he would be an all pro with the bucs and just a pro bowler here.

pretty much a difference in impact.

 

 

 

 

 

You're wrong. when different teams win the SB they have different approaches and will always have completely different stats.
We would never have stats anywhere close to say the Saints when they win the SB.
That doesn't mean what so ever that a player like Howard would be more valuable to them in their run then he would to us.

[nj_ravens]

Holy crap, I was not expecting people to be mad about this pick.

[The Negotiator]

Well tired of being negative, Marlon Humphrey welcome to Baltimore. Im sure you will do great things.

[krnraven]

Oz made a good choice. I would have been upset if we drafted Howard. Did yall even watch the draft??? Oz has the inside scoop on everything BAMA so he had reason to pass on Allen and Foster. This was BPA that we really needed. Now we can actually blitz and not worry about receivers running free. The secondary has been a weakness for sometime now and Carr wasn't going to fix that.

It would be funny if we got Cam Robinson in the second.

[Tdot.to.Bmore]

In ozzie we trust!! at the same time tho if he doesnt nail the picks today i hope he steps down lol. This pick was a stretch because of teh talented CBs left on the board. We have so many other holes to fill and we spent so much money in our secondary already. Help flacco out man and give him some protection or a target on the outside. I still have faith in Ozzie but he needs a solid day today.

[Crusader]

Note to Joe Flacco I don't know who you made mad but you better fix it. You have no Center or no right Tackle and Ravens just passed on a beast TE that runs over people. Also, two teams in your division just picked big time pass rushers and the other picked a rocket receiver........Good Luck.

[LeBron]

Every yea we complain about Oz not taking a CB early enough and now he did but his not sexy enough. I mean i wanted Reddick but it didnt happen plus looking at the avail players left i think OZ will do us justice. Give this kid at least a year or 2. As long he dont get injured like my boi J Smith then his good. Welcome MH

[Tru11]

26 minutes ago, sizzlingdoom said:

You're wrong. when different teams win the SB they have different approaches and will always have completely different stats.
We would never have stats anywhere close to say the Saints when they win the SB.
That doesn't mean what so ever that a player like Howard would be more valuable to them in their run then he would to us.

dude you make no sense.

a team that wants to pass alot and focus on their TE to be the machtup nightmare will place more value on OJ then a team that wants to run the ball and use the TE more for blocking on run/pass plays and as the check down option.

Scheme plays a big part in deciding the value of a player.

the more a player fits what you want to do the higher the value.

 

Just look at jimmy graham.

Edited April 28 by Tru11

[ByTheBay]

Sounds like a lot of hurt ego's on here today. With something like 5 out of the top 8 players left in the board from Alabama and you don't think ozzie KNOWS who the cream of the crop will be? Or are you the same "fans" who said Carr was not going to help improve the secondary and we needed to draft a CB in the first? You can't make everyone happy. If we added Howard people would complain about having too much invested in TE. If we added an OT people would complain about reaching at 16. If we added pass rush people would complain that we settled for who was available. 

[LeBron]

Sounds like a lot of hurt ego's on here today. With something like 5 out of the top 8 players left in the board from Alabama and you don't think ozzie KNOWS who the cream of the crop will be? Or are you the same "fans" who said Carr was not going to help improve the secondary and we needed to draft a CB in the first? You can't make everyone happy. If we added Howard people would complain about having too much invested in TE. If we added an OT people would complain about reaching at 16. If we added pass rush people would complain that we settled for who was available. 

can never make everyone happy on here.

[cmillionard3]

Here come all the arm chair GM's.... probably same turds who hated on the ronnie stanley pick last year. we have 3 more picks today, if we can somehow manage OLB, WR, OL then were talkin'.

^^^ THIS!!!!

[law215]

Pros:

Ravens have improved the secondary. Yes, he is a reached, but Are you confident Smith stays healthy?

Where are the fans that are so happy we resign Webb, who was on the cap for $8M having Brown and AJ Green torch him. He's cheaper now, but is he any good.

Where are the Fans that thought Wright was a good signing.

Joe will look for Pitta first regardless of who else is playing TE.

Cons:
I think OJ Howard may be a BEAST J Allen

Suggs is old, Charles Harris would have been a reach too. The true elite pass rushers rarely fall out of top 15. However, how are the Ravens planning to get to the QB.

Must draft pass rusher next or CB means nothing

[Crimson Raven]

I like this pick. And I'm not just saying that because he's from my alma mater.

[ravens4life86]

How bout a dang Pass Rush or WR rounfs 2&3... still upset over our rnd 1 pick.

Better come away with some "PlayMakers" on the "Outside" Sizzle isnt getting any younger and everyone else is a question. And other then Wallace everyone is question at WR.

Rnd 2 perfect would be either WR Zay Jones,Smith Schuster or I wouldnt be against Dalvin Cook if they feel hes a game changer, or Alvin Camara.
Defensively- Edge Rushers, Tim Williams, Willis,Bowser, Lawson, Rivers, etc get 1