Welcome to Baltimore Marlon Humphrey

[rossihunter2]

14 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I love how people talk about him not turning his head as if it's not coachable.

That's a very rare quality for young corners to have. It's very learned. 

Conley is one of the best at that

[The Raven]

16 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I love how people talk about him not turning his head as if it's not coachable.

That's a very rare quality for young corners to have. It's very learned. 

Not to mention it's a bit difficult to look for the ball when in press. In zone, his ball skills are on point.

[Cillmatic]

I'm happy with this pick.

cleveland has Gordon & Coleman

Steelers have Brown and Bryant

Bengals have AJ, Ross and the Pitt guy.

 

We NEED to have a good secondary in this division.

[Edgar]

10 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

Conley is one of the best at that

Quincy Wilson is also very good and turning and finding the ball.

My issue is Marlon in man. He is a liability in man and you can see that on tape.( right now, hopefully) Quarterbacks are going to go at him.

I'm trying to talk myself into this pick. Awesome physicality and instincts against the run. Pretty rare physicality actually.

[BmoreBird22]

13 minutes ago, The Raven said:

Not to mention it's a bit difficult to look for the ball when in press. In zone, his ball skills are on point.

It's so common for DBs to play the man and not the ball on deep passes. Most of these top guys are press specialists who get grabby deep. He's far from the only one.

[Drew P]

3 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

I'm happy with this pick.

cleveland has Gordon & Coleman

Steelers have Brown and Bryant

Bengals have AJ, Ross and the Pitt guy.

 

We NEED to have a good secondary in this division.

they dont draft on need

[trevorsteadman]

9 minutes ago, Edgar said:

Quincy Wilson is also very good and turning and finding the ball.

My issue is Marlon in man. He is a liability in man and you can see that on tape.( right now, hopefully) Quarterbacks are going to go at him.

I'm trying to talk myself into this pick. Awesome physicality and instincts against the run. Pretty rare physicality actually.

Humphrey is also one of the better zone corners in this draft if not the best. Lattimore was definitely better at mirroring opposing wide receivers to play man coverage, but I actually think Humphrey succeeds early with the talent this team has on the back end. If you keep everything in front of him he is incredible. But he has let some players run by in man coverage and he needs to work on footwork and turning his head but his closing speed is something fierce.

[Cillmatic]

1 hour ago, Purple&Black#20 said:

Great height, weight and speed. Very physical but lacks ball awareness. 

That's odd, I think his awareness is great, at least when the ball is in front of him.

[BmoreBird22]

1 minute ago, Cillmatic said:

That's odd, I think his awareness is great, at least when the ball is in front of him.

I would agree. Plus awareness and route recognition. 

[Cillmatic]

DAMN I'm liking this pick. I overreacted BIG TIME last night. Guess we were just bummed that someone we weren't really familiar with got drafted. Crazy thing is he's only 20 so he can have a year to get up to speed before he has to start.

[rmw10]

1 hour ago, The Raven said:

Okay, I watched Marlon Humphrey vs USC, Humphrey vs Texas A&M and Humphrey against Clemson. I LOVE the pick. The past couple months of work kept me away from the pre-draft scouting but my schedule is opening up again, so I'm gonna be taking a look at our guys.

The first things that jumped out to me were his energy and physicality. He plays fast and he plays through the whistle. He knocks guys out if they touch the ball. If you run a screen on him, he shuts that Crap down. He erases the short routes. He doesn't give people easy completions. I think that in the NFL his footwork may make him liable to a couple blown coverages on deep balls but he'll work on it.

In the run game, he is willing to get into traffic. Frequently in the Clemson game he made an effort to engage a tackle. Not many corners are willing to take on a block from a lineman. If he's got an angle on the back, he brings the wood. He really tries to fight off blocks, and if it's a WR, he usually wins.

He's built thick for a corner. That 6'0, 200 build, I think, is ideal for a corner. Long but not so long you have slow foot speed. 

The talk of him being stiff hipped I can see, but I think it's exaggerated. He's pretty fluid for a longer corner. It's the footwork that I think is the problem, and you see that around 3:05 against A&M. He played the slot most in the Clemson game, and to be honest, I think he can fit in there. I didn't see any glaring issues with him in the slot.

And whoever thinks he doesn't have ball skills needs to check out 2:30 against Texas A&M. He's got em. I just think he needs to get better at turning his head. He may not have the best ball skills but this guy is going to force a lot of incompletions, a lot of sacks, and a lot of punts. He's a good cover corner.

Another thing: he's a tone setter. Our defense lacks that right now in my opinion. I'm really loving this pick.

Nailed it.  These were my exact thoughts.

[Edgar]

Welcome Marlon. Looking forward to watching you play.

[rmw10]

I cannot wait for all of the people that constantly refer to him as Marlon Humphries.

[ALI624]

4 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I cannot wait for all of the people that constantly refer to him as Marlon Humphries.

Definitely going to become a drinking game.

[PurpleHorseman]

3 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

People talked of Humphrey as the best CB in the Draft earlier in the year then his popularity took a nosedive but the talent is there. He just didn't have the best of years but he's got talent. He's not my favorite pick for us because I really wanted TJ Watt but that wasn't in the cards. 

His stock nosedived Prisco said because when his tape was broken down he struggles with his back to ball. And when push came to shove the younger cornerbacks we're outplaying him because of it. He said his sources at Bama confirmed it

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

4 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Not gonna lie, you're as bad as Sami with overreactions

Maybe with this pick lol. But at least I like Humphrey going forward. I do think he's a starter by mid season and an effective one. Just hated the value there with guys like Allen on the board. That's all. Long-term this is solid.

 

Im pissed off. But I'm standing by the team here

[PurpleHorseman]

Once again a player drafted moves up on everybody's board after the ravens pick him. Lmao. Trouble finding the throws doesn't go away with experience. It is a like a rythym you have or don't.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

27 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

DAMN I'm liking this pick. I overreacted BIG TIME last night. Guess we were just bummed that someone we weren't really familiar with got drafted. Crazy thing is he's only 20 so he can have a year to get up to speed before he has to start.

i think the best part is -- and i cant stress this enough -- that, sure, the draft is deep at CB and i too was of the thinking you cant wait on your CB.... but EVERYONE ended up playing it that way.

Now all the guys who passed on a CB round 1 are going to panic in round 2 early 3. We're going to see them fly off the board now.... and weve already got ours. So we can either sit tight and let the pass rushers, OL and WR's fall to us or take advantage of a desperate team and trade back while grabbing another 3rd.

We're sitting pretty. Especially if we can get Tim Williams, Carl Lawson, Jordan Willis, Tyus Bowser, Cam Robinson, Forrest Lamp....

Hopefully we get the pass rusher here and then we luck out with Dan Feeney, Dion Dawkins or Pat Elflein being there in the 3rd along with another top pass rusher, CB, or WR.

 

This Day 2 could be AWESOME. And while the 1st round pick wasnt sexy... we got, imo, a very safe player who when all is said and done is going to prove to be strategically a brilliant move bc of who will be on the board with our next 3 picks at positions of need, and who wont be on the board in the 3rd round at CB (bc thats really the only reason to be upset, that you thought thered be a great CB available in the 3rd).

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Just now, PurpleHorseman said:

Once again a player drafted moves up on everybody's board after the ravens pick him. Lmao. Trouble finding the throws doesn't go away with experience. It is a like a rythym you have or don't.

I commented 2 weeks ago, that reports were that Humphrey was actually the Top CB or #2 on almost every teams' board and was likely to go Top 10, or at worst to NO. Just so happened Lattimore lasted until them.

Just bc you didnt hear about it doesnt mean jack. Teams were high on him all along.

[Cillmatic]

57 minutes ago, Drew P said:

they dont draft on need

All teams draft on need. It's ALWAYS best player available who plays a position of need. Look at EVERY first round pick any teams ever done. They needed those players.

[PuRock]

This must have been Ozzie's wet dream.  The best players on the board were all 'Bama guys. 

But count me in as another one that likes Humphrey as a player, but didn't like the value we passed up.  I am typically one who hates drafting head cases and prefer clean guys, but Foster was an elite talent in this draft.  Jonathan Allen was a difference maker.  There was also a top flight playmaker in Howard still on the board.

I'm of course hoping Humphrey lights it up.  His tendency to get beat and lack of ball skills leaves you wanting a bit more.  

Edited April 28 by PuRock

[Italian Raven]

Lol 

I gave my gf a list of around 10 players before the draft started. I spent months watching tapes ans figuring out what would be the most likely outcome. She doesn't even know much bout football but she nailed it. Way to feel useless

I'm trying to do the same tonight.

I'll admit there's a few CBs I liked better and who might even be on board at #47, but it's a big truth that Marlon was likely the best fit for what our DC calls.

Also, happy for our secondary and for @BmoreBird22 who had been camping for the guy the entire post-season. The dilemma now is, will you change the avatar in these last days or will you stick with the good ole Jimmy?

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

1 minute ago, PuRock said:

This must have been Ozzie's wet dream.  The best players on the board were all 'Bama guys. 

But count me in as another one that likes Humphrey as a player, but didn't like the value we passed up.  I am typically one who hates drafting head cases and prefer clean guys, but Foster was an elite talent in this draft.  Jonathan Allen was a difference maker.  There was also a top flight playmaker in Howard still on the board.

I'm of course Humphrey lights it up.  His tendency to get beat and lack of ball skills leaves you wanting a bit more.  

I wouldn't say lack of ball skills in totality. I actually think that when Weddle and Webb leave/hang it up they Humphrey could do a damn good job playing S because of how good he is with the ball in front of him.   

 

And honestly given how Carr has been straight up torched in the past(I'm hoping that Carr from last season shows up), wouldn't surprise me if Humphrey has an iron fist(not the crappy show) on the starting job. 

 

Im not gonna lie. If Jonathan Allen and OJ Howard weren't there. You probably wouldn't have heard a peep from me. Sorry for being angry y'all...

 

That said, going into next year it's more likely than not we have a good CB trio

Jimmy

Humphrey

Young

 

Three corners that can play the outside very well? I'll happily take that.

 

 

Im very worried about the pass rush though. But this is a good edge class.

[PurpleCity5]

Let's go! love this pick! Great fit. 

Edited April 28 by PurpleCity5

[PuRock]

7 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

I wouldn't say lack of ball skills in totality. I actually think that when Weddle and Webb leave/hang it up they Humphrey could do a damn good job playing S because of how good he is with the ball in front of him.   

And honestly given how Carr has been straight up torched in the past(I'm hoping that Carr from last season shows up), wouldn't surprise me if Humphrey has an iron fist(not the crappy show) on the starting job. 

Im not gonna lie. If Jonathan Allen and OJ Howard weren't there. You probably wouldn't have heard a peep from me. Sorry for being angry y'all...

Im very worried about the pass rush though. But this is a good edge class.

I agree, I think Humphrey projects well as a safety.  He does have the speed to play corner but he plays much better with the ball in front of him.  Still a silly secondary right now.  

Edge class is deep.  Especially with pass rush specialists.  Good options at guard as well.  Tons of good DBs too.   

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

5 minutes ago, PuRock said:

I agree, I think Humphrey projects well as a safety.  He does have the speed to play corner but he plays much better with the ball in front of him.  Still a silly secondary right now.  

Edge class is deep.  Especially with pass rush specialists.  Good options at guard as well.  Tons of good DBs too.   

You know. If we took a Fabian moreau, Chidobe Awuzie, or Quincy Wilson type tomorrow in round 2 I wouldn't be surprised or angry to be honest. Sadly with Jimmy being as injury prone as it is, it'd make sense to double dip. 

 

Also do something underrated that no one has really talked about. I'm pretty sure we've struggled against screens for a few of the past few seasons and Humphrey can defend against those like it's nobody's business. 

 

"Hes also really gonna need safety help because of his lack of skills in zone." 

 

Gee. If only we didn't have three top 15 ranked safeties to help up press

 

Seriously. If we get a pass rusher there's a decent chance we have a top 3 defense

Edited April 28 by LosT_in_TranSlatioN

[PurpleHorseman]

30 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I commented 2 weeks ago, that reports were that Humphrey was actually the Top CB or #2 on almost every teams' board and was likely to go Top 10, or at worst to NO. Just so happened Lattimore lasted until them.

Just bc you didnt hear about it doesnt mean jack. Teams were high on him all along.

Duuude everybody here has gone over tape all winter and nobody lauded this players skill sets. I'm critical because I can relate. One of fastest in the county but couldn't cover deep because I couldn't find football and wasn't comfortable with back to throws. And that is like a rythym u have or don't. My friends son JV Southern A.A. One of fastest players but can't find the throw. So he plays safety and LB. the scouts are right his deficiencies don't go away with experience.

I read the Malcolm Butler path to NFL. Again Belichick knew he was special 10 minutes into his initial practice because his skills finding the throws and reacting were elite and couldn't be taught. Belichick asked him after his first practice have you found an apartment yet. He responded no because he wasn't sure he would be in town long. Belichick responded,Oh you are going to be around alright!! And this was a rookie that played small school with an extremely small playbook. But flourished in practice because of his unusual gift to find the throws that can't be taught. Belichick knew it is what set him apart

on a good note he could be a great great SS and zone cornerback!! I mean really good. I kinda favor the zone coverage anyways. Marlon has everything and I mean everything you look for in a zone cornerback that is facing the action. If we play him at SS eventually he could set the standard for the position. His closing speed and tackling is elite. Maybe with all the timing offenses the ravens are going more zone coverage:

Edited April 28 by PurpleHorseman

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

For what it's worth. I think/hope we take another corner in the middle of the draft(a Kazee type). When Jimmy goes down we could use all the help we could get.

[cobrajet]

12 hours ago, Steve0x said:

GREAT PICK!!! Now the Ravens are going to become a mennace in the NFL 

I had this guy as my #3 CB behind Sidney Jones (before he got injured) and Lattimore. This guy reminds me so much of a healthy Jimmy Smith and has no injury concerns at this moment. He has the athleticism and body to develop into a beast. Yes, he will have some growing pains, but the guy can make a tackle and will not back down from any WR in the NFL, unlike other CB's that were still on the board.

[BmoreBird22]

31 minutes ago, Italian Raven said:

Also, happy for our secondary and for @BmoreBird22 who had been camping for the guy the entire post-season. The dilemma now is, will you change the avatar in these last days or will you stick with the good ole Jimmy?

You know what? When I get home, Humphrey it is.