Welcome to Baltimore Marlon Humphrey

[Drew P]

11 hours ago, Static said:

Anyone with doubt should watch Marlon shutdown this years #9 pick  by the Bengals. 

 

 

 

 

John Ross ended with 5catches for 28yards.

Look at 00:25. He put them PAWS on him. He didn't want it lol.

AT 1:02 he gets blocked from making the tackle but takes a good angle and affects the play plus keep John from getting the outside edge that he wants.

1:28 watch how well he mirrors and runs with that 4.22

 

 

The way he mirrors Ross at 1:02 is impressive. He takes 3 steps to get 5 yards out and Ross takes 6. Plus at the 5 yard line he still is a good bit a head of him.

Having four men in the QB's grill on each and every play helps too

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

3 hours ago, Sami84 said:

Firstly, I said matt elam was an awful tackler from day 1. I was his number one hater. Anyone here can tesitify to this, even before he played a snap.

Secondly, every single scout, from NDT to PFF to walterfootball all say what I have said. Same with Vach Lombardi. HIs tackling form and his length is a whole different league to elam. Elam was pathetic, undersized with T-rex arms. 

Exactly. People who thought Elams tackling was a strength did so bc they liked the splashiness.... the boom type hits. But he just wildly threw his body and came in wrecklessly like a torpedo.

Problem is he took way too aggressive angles and in the nfl was too small to destroy people so ball carriers just blew by him as he missed or bounced off.

Marlon brings the wood but does so with perfect technique -- exploding through the strike zone while wrapping up the legs, scoop and drop. Comparing Marlon to Elam is a joke.

 

For as stubborn as you can be some times, you at least tend to support your opinions based on reality. Thank you for showing some objectivity and calling out garbage when you see it... 

[RayRayRaven]

9 hours ago, Sami84 said:

Firstly, I said matt elam was an awful tackler from day 1. I was his number one hater. Anyone here can tesitify to this, even before he played a snap.

Secondly, every single scout, from NDT to PFF to walterfootball all say what I have said. Same with Vach Lombardi. HIs tackling form and his length is a whole different league to elam. Elam was pathetic, undersized with T-rex arms. 

 

5 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Exactly. People who thought Elams tackling was a strength did so bc they liked the splashiness.... the boom type hits. But he just wildly threw his body and came in wrecklessly like a torpedo.

Problem is he took way too aggressive angles and in the nfl was too small to destroy people so ball carriers just blew by him as he missed or bounced off.

Marlon brings the wood but does so with perfect technique -- exploding through the strike zone while wrapping up the legs, scoop and drop. Comparing Marlon to Elam is a joke.

 

For as stubborn as you can be some times, you at least tend to support your opinions based on reality. Thank you for showing some objectivity and calling out garbage when you see it... 

thaught u mite like lookin at some early words. way back machin didna come up wiff all the early gems startd by that guy poes but pg 77 and 78 of da in oz we trust thred is ammusin. so many postas were sensored in dat era the things so many sayed cant clearly be layed out now but dat poes was nevah wrong was he? wander wat he thang bout humpf

 

Edited yesterday at 12:09 AM by RayRayRaven

[Davesta]

Can anyone make out what RayRay is saying? lol 

[RayRayRaven]

1 minute ago, Davesta said:

Can anyone make out what RayRay is saying? lol 

no but ill be at Scout all nex week

[SepticeyePoe]

Just now, RayRayRaven said:

no but ill be at Scout all nex week

You can't understand what you're typing? 

[Dewy101]

20 hours ago, Sami84 said:

Positives-

1- Best tackler of all corners in the draft

2-Best screen destroyer of all corners in draft

3- Great Length and size

4- Short memory- doesn't get rattled

5-When the play is infront of him he's as reliable as they come

6: Jams receiver as well as any DB in this draft. Disrupts routes often.

7: SS and FS potential

 

negative

1- Hip movement. It's more technique based than anything

2- The big one, when his back is turned his timing if off and doesn't have good awareness of where the ball is..this is when the ball is always thrown deep. If he was slightly better here he WOULD be the number one corner in the draft. For me, this is a BIG deal and the main reason why I had a second round grade on him. Along with tackling, deep man coverage is the most important attribute for a first round corner.

3- Sometimes doesn't seem to play to his speed because he doesn't use his hips right and some WR's will have a head start and better acceleration due to being running forward rather than turning. Needs to mirror and become more fluid in turning. 

 

overall- Seems likea a hybrid CB/SS. If he can improve his hip technique and man coverage he will not only stick with his man he'll be C-Mac BUT this has to be something which is a real priority for our DB coaches.

 

this is NOT matt elam . This is a guy that has a high ceiling but with some flaws that could have scared teams off drafting him in the first.  

 

I don't know why he gets thought of as a safety? Just because he hits hard? From what I've seen from him he rarely is lost in coverage WRs never beat him outright. He did have a habit of biting on some double moves but every college CB has that problem because they want to make a play. The Clemson tape there wasn't a single time where he was beaten outright. He was hip to hip. Mike Williams never separated at the top of his routes. Mike Williams got him on jump balls which is so hard to defend for any CB even in the NFL. He did get a PI call but it could've gone either way plus the safety was late  into the coverage. 

Edited yesterday at 12:41 AM by Dewy101

[Sami84]

It would not shock me if we yet again have a ravens draft where the first 2 round picks dissapoint and the middle round guys are the ones who end up being the players for us.

 

I watched more bowser tape and i'm not sure about him...he lacks instincts and seems too raw for a 2nd round pick. 

After watching more film of Lattimore, Sidney Jones and conely I really wish i could speak with harbs and ozzie and ask them to explain how humphrey was far and away a better corner than the last two

 

Also, not picking OJ howard or Rueben Foster is basically a mistake. The latter is AT LEAST bobby wagner and OJ howard is as polished of a TE i've seen in years in both the receiving and running game.

 

While humphrey is nowhere near the mistake elam was, he and bowser will not be pro bowl players. thats my guess. I think Humphrey will have good and bad moments and will be a solid corner .

I think the guys that ends up being our best player this year are Wormley, T.Williams and Siragusa.

 

Edited yesterday at 12:42 AM by Sami84

[Sami84]

2 minutes ago, Dewy101 said:

I don't know why he gets thought of as a safety? Just because he hits hard? From what I've seen from him he rarely is lost in coverage WRs never beat him outright. He did have a habit of biting on some double moves but every college CB has that problem because they want to make a play. The Clemson tape there wasn't a single time where he was beaten outright. He was hip to hip. Mike Williams never separated at the top of his routes. Mike Williams got him on jump balls which is so hard to defend for any CB even in the NFL. He did get a PI call but it could've gone either way plus the safety was late  into the coverage. 

 

He lacks fluidity in his hips and doesn't have that playmaking sixth sense if you will with his back turned. He's great when everything is infront of him which is what you like from SS

[RayRayRaven]

5 minutes ago, Dewy101 said:

I don't know why he gets thought of as a safety? Just because he hits hard? From what I've seen from him he rarely is lost in coverage WRs never beat him outright. He did have a habit of biting on some double moves but every college CB has that problem because they want to make a play. The Clemson tape there wasn't a single time where he was beaten outright. He was hip to hip. Mike Williams never separated at the top of his routes. Mike Williams got him on jump balls which is so hard to defend for any CB even in the NFL. He did get a PI call but it could've gone either way plus the safety was late  into the coverage. 

he was beatin by leggett outrite and was beaten by williams twice not in the picture. one poor throw long one short  but the wors part of that game was the numba of times he didna know his asignmant an nevah recognizin the end zone pic.  likd his tackle record vs washton though. he got college recardbook I gotz a hadeache and we gotz a problem

[rmw10]

24 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

It would not shock me if we yet again have a ravens draft where the first 2 round picks dissapoint and the middle round guys are the ones who end up being the players for us.

 

I watched more bowser tape and i'm not sure about him...he lacks instincts and seems too raw for a 2nd round pick. 

After watching more film of Lattimore, Sidney Jones and conely I really wish i could speak with harbs and ozzie and ask them to explain how humphrey was far and away a better corner than the last two

 

Also, not picking OJ howard or Rueben Foster is basically a mistake. The latter is AT LEAST bobby wagner and OJ howard is as polished of a TE i've seen in years in both the receiving and running game.

 

While humphrey is nowhere near the mistake elam was, he and bowser will not be pro bowl players. thats my guess. I think Humphrey will have good and bad moments and will be a solid corner .

I think the guys that ends up being our best player this year are Wormley, T.Williams and Siragusa.

 

Lol this is pure gold.  You were raving about him leading up to the draft and even when we picked him, but now that he's actually a Raven, you dislike the pick.  What a shocker!

[Sami84]

Just now, rmw10 said:

Lol this is pure gold.  You were raving about him leading up to the draft and even when we picked him, but now that he's actually a Raven, you dislike the pick.  What a shocker!

 

I had a chance to watch more tape. I watched some FULL houston games. By the way no draft in history produces more stars than busts. So if you're implying that there is no BUST in the first 4 picks then you havent learned.

 

He has big upside ( bowser) but at the NFL level does he have the instincts? can he read plays? Is he simply unmoulded clay?

I needed to see more consistent play recognition from him ( at the SAM spot). 

Look, we have never had a draft thats not had more busts than successes. I'm just saying if there's going to be a bust it's likely this guy. The most safe picks where Wormley, T.Williams and Siragusa.

 

[rmw10]

Just now, Sami84 said:

I had a chance to watch more tape. I watched some FULL houston games. By the way no draft in history produces more stars than busts. So if you're implying that there is no BUST in the first 4 picks then you havent learned.

 

He has big upside ( bowser) but at the NFL level does he have the instincts? can he read plays? Is he simply unmoulded clay?

I needed to see more consistent play recognition from him ( at the SAM spot). 

Look, we have never had a draft thats not had more busts than successes. I'm just saying if there's going to be a bust it's likely this guy. The most safe picks where Wormley, T.Williams and Siragusa.

 

This is just a way for you to turn around and say that if he busts, you questioned him the whole time.

[Sami84]

1 minute ago, rmw10 said:

This is just a way for you to turn around and say that if he busts, you questioned him the whole time.

No. I'm being honest..he hasnt played a snap yet. I had time to watch more tape. 

I'm learning from my arthur brown mistake.

Edited yesterday at 01:15 AM by Sami84

[RayRayRaven]

15 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

This is just a way for you to turn around and say that if he busts, you questioned him the whole time.

jus be clar i'm callin him monument bust no eqivecashon but I wil guarntee four yrs from today many on the new bd will be talkin his potenshall u kno the diferance bout him and cleats elam?  cleats was smaller and caught worse thats it

Edited yesterday at 01:28 AM by RayRayRaven

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

2 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

jus be clar i'm callin him monument bust no eqivecashon but I wil guarntee four yrs from today many on the new bd will be talkin his potenshall

............. Your posts smh

[RavensFanMania]

16 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

I had a chance to watch more tape. I watched some FULL houston games. By the way no draft in history produces more stars than busts. So if you're implying that there is no BUST in the first 4 picks then you havent learned.

 

He has big upside ( bowser) but at the NFL level does he have the instincts? can he read plays? Is he simply unmoulded clay?

I needed to see more consistent play recognition from him ( at the SAM spot). 

Look, we have never had a draft thats not had more busts than successes. I'm just saying if there's going to be a bust it's likely this guy. The most safe picks where Wormley, T.Williams and Siragusa.

 

Do you realize that a draft that has two starters is considered a success.  I'll let you count how many starters came from last years and how many more could come from it.  This years draft has even greater upside.

 

[RavensFanMania]

43 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

he was beatin by leggett outrite and was beaten by williams twice not in the picture. one poor throw long one short  but the wors part of that game was the numba of times he didna know his asignmant an nevah recognizin the end zone pic.  likd his tackle record vs washton though. he got college recardbook I gotz a hadeache and we gotz a problem

Spelling is a requirement to join the new board, unless you join fb or twitter

[rmw10]

10 hours ago, Sami84 said:

No. I'm being honest..he hasnt played a snap yet. I had time to watch more tape. 

I'm learning from my arthur brown mistake.

You keep playing both sides of the coin.  Do you, Sami.  Can't be wrong if you cover both possibilities.

 

[redrum52]

1 hour ago, Sami84 said:

It would not shock me if we yet again have a ravens draft where the first 2 round picks dissapoint and the middle round guys are the ones who end up being the players for us.

 

I watched more bowser tape and i'm not sure about him...he lacks instincts and seems too raw for a 2nd round pick. 

After watching more film of Lattimore, Sidney Jones and conely I really wish i could speak with harbs and ozzie and ask them to explain how humphrey was far and away a better corner than the last two

 

Also, not picking OJ howard or Rueben Foster is basically a mistake. The latter is AT LEAST bobby wagner and OJ howard is as polished of a TE i've seen in years in both the receiving and running game.

 

While humphrey is nowhere near the mistake elam was, he and bowser will not be pro bowl players. thats my guess. I think Humphrey will have good and bad moments and will be a solid corner .

I think the guys that ends up being our best player this year are Wormley, T.Williams and Siragusa.

 

I think Marlon works out well for us.  With that said, Lattimore wasn't even available when we picked.  When picking personnel, I'm going CB over ILB almost every time, unless I'm certain we have an all pro type of player.  Won't speak on Bowser, but the little I have seen, I think he can be a great piece if used correctly and coached properly.  They need to know what they want to do with him, and not switch him around ala Kruger and McPhee.

 

Jimmy has never been to a pro bowl.  Orr had an amazing season and he didn't reach the pro bowl either even while being acknowledged as an All Pro.  I choose not to use that as a measuring stick for players.  Same as Bowser, with proper coaching, he should excel here.  Let's see how it works out. While I wouldn't have mind taking OJ, need at cb was more important, especially with 6 TEs currently on the roster.

 

I think having Humphrey, Young and Jefferson will mean not having to sweat the secondary much, down the line.

 

 

[Sami84]

how am i playing both sides of the coin IF THEY HAVENT PLAYED A SNAP YET!?

 

I said Humphrey should be a solid player. I said i dont think he'll be a pro bowler or anything but i think he'll be a top 15 corner. Like between 10-15.

I see Wormley, T.Williams and Siragusa all being starters with the latter two having Pro Bowl potential. Wormley has the highest floor of nearly all the draft picks from the middle second round and above.

[Sami84]

I am hoping that matt judon becomes our breakout player next year.

[ThatsMyJoeTerback]

2 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

I am hoping that matt judon becomes our breakout player next year.

That's if he gets an opportunity ahead of Suggs, Tim Williams, AND Zadarius.

[Sami84]

9 minutes ago, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:

That's if he gets an opportunity ahead of Suggs, Tim Williams, AND Zadarius.

I think the FO has soured a lot of zadarius smith. He's just so pathetic at pass rushing it's scary.

[ellicottraven]

27 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

I am hoping that matt judon becomes our breakout player next year.

I believe he has all the incentive to break out this year. First he has a year in the system and secondly while it may not directly affect his status on the team, he still has 2 high draft picks selected this year that'll breathe down his neck for playing time. Players perform best when there is competition and hopefully he'll come out on top.

[allblackraven]

16 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

I think the FO has soured a lot of zadarius smith. He's just so pathetic at pass rushing it's scary.

Yes, I don't see how can he be ahead of Judon on the depth chart. May not have a spot on the 53.

[Sami84]

5 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Yes, I don't see how can he be ahead of Judon on the depth chart. May not have a spot on the 53.

I think him and Carl Davis are on the serious bubble.

[RavensFanMania]

3 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

I think him and Carl Davis are on the serious bubble.

Z smith  and Carl Davis could very well have some difficulty making the team.  Hopefully he has a good offseason.

Edited yesterday at 02:52 AM by RavensFanMania

[Sami84]

Just now, RavensFanMania said:

Judon will not be on the bubble, but Carl Davis could very well have some difficulty making the team.  Hopefully he has a good offseason.

i meant za'darius smith, not judon.

[RavensFanMania]

Just now, Sami84 said:

i meant za'darius smith, not judon.

Yes, I caught that and edited.