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[shaikh1500]

He looks like he has the Ike Taylor mold.   Webb, Smith and Weddle we could use him as a SS Strong Safety...

[arnie_uk]

Purplehorseman is really pushing him as an ss. I see a bit of compatibility when I watch him. What would the likes of @BmoreBird22 say to that?

Without spitting the dummy our because of the poster that suggests it lol.

He likened him to kam chancellor 

[Sami84]

7 minutes ago, arnie_uk said:

Purplehorseman is really pushing him as an ss. I see a bit of compatibility when I watch him. What would the likes of @BmoreBird22 say to that?

Without spitting the dummy our because of the poster that suggests it lol.

He likened him to kam chancellor 

 

Cam is much much bigger..

 

cam is pretty unique but they do both play the screen great

[RayRayRaven]

5 hours ago, arnie_uk said:

Purplehorseman is really pushing him as an ss. I see a bit of compatibility when I watch him. What would the likes of @BmoreBird22 say to that?

Without spitting the dummy our because of the poster that suggests it lol.

He likened him to kam chancellor 

wait amin we signed jeffersen and had weddle needed a corna and draffed a bama corna to p lay safety? he may end up thar but that was not the porpoise

[52520Andrew]

I am really starting to like this pick. I know I criticize those people that always have picks "grow" on them after their initial reaction but I really like this situation for Humphrey and watching the interviews I think he will be good for us. He doesn't have to start immediately and if he does start he will be the #2 CB with plenty of potential safety help. We have a lot of flexibility with him based on how he develops and the Alabama defense is complicated meaning he should be able to grasp the scheme stuff a bit faster than most guys. And when we get him developed a bit on locating the deep balls and the footwork a bit we are talking about a 6'0 197 pound guy who can run in the low 4.4s and is physical in the run game but also quick enough to run a 6.75 3 cone drill. Been wanting more CB help for years and I think we have found it.

[JoeyFlex5]

A lot of people on these boards wanted Byron jones a few years back. So I have to ask... what made Byron jones look like a superior prospect? They were really similar, long, uber athletic, looks the part of multiple positions, and raw. Byron jones didn't have clear first round tape, they took him based on future projections. We did the same with a similar player

[Davesta]

11 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

A lot of people on these boards wanted Byron jones a few years back. So I have to ask... what made Byron jones look like a superior prospect? They were really similar, long, uber athletic, looks the part of multiple positions, and raw. Byron jones didn't have clear first round tape, they took him based on future projections. We did the same with a similar player

The difference is where we pick in the draft maybe? 

[allblackraven]

24 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

A lot of people on these boards wanted Byron jones a few years back. So I have to ask... what made Byron jones look like a superior prospect? They were really similar, long, uber athletic, looks the part of multiple positions, and raw. Byron jones didn't have clear first round tape, they took him based on future projections. We did the same with a similar player

Two words - broad jump.

Edited Sunday at 09:46 PM by allblackraven

[balfan23]

I noted Jon Gruden really emphasizing something that I had not thought of but seems to make sense.

Almost every college player coming out needs work on something. Virtually no one comes out 100% NFL ready. According to Gruden, you cannot select a player high who needs to work on how to tackle, because the CBA prohibits significant contact in practices. If a player is not a good tackler coming out of college, you can expect that to be an issue that will linger - possibly forever. 

One guy he blasted on this front is Hooker. Yes, he's an amazing athlete and has a ton of talent, but has bad tackling habits that he doesn't see being able to be adequately addressed given the guidelines of the CBA. When you look at the report on Humphrey, it would seem like the things he needs to work out can be worked on, such as downfield coverage and tracking of the ball. It doesn't seem like he needs to be coached up on how to lay the wood. 

So - I'll take that as a good thing. Hopefully he can get these issues fixed and quickly. It also is helpful that we've got a nice set of safeties to help on deep coverage. I know we don't want to rush him, but I'd like to see him making on impact on this defense ... sooner rather than later. 

[balfan23]

1 hour ago, 52520Andrew said:

I am really starting to like this pick. I know I criticize those people that always have picks "grow" on them after their initial reaction but I really like this situation for Humphrey and watching the interviews I think he will be good for us. He doesn't have to start immediately and if he does start he will be the #2 CB with plenty of potential safety help. We have a lot of flexibility with him based on how he develops and the Alabama defense is complicated meaning he should be able to grasp the scheme stuff a bit faster than most guys. And when we get him developed a bit on locating the deep balls and the footwork a bit we are talking about a 6'0 197 pound guy who can run in the low 4.4s and is physical in the run game but also quick enough to run a 6.75 3 cone drill. Been wanting more CB help for years and I think we have found it.

Another part of what allowed me to have this pick grow on me was the way CBs went flying off the board in the late 1st and early 2nd. I really thought that pass rusher was going to be a more challenging need to fill and I wanted it filled in the 1st round with either Barnett or Reddick. Of course, to get either of those two would have required a trade up.

Given some of the pass rush help we were able to get later in the draft, failing to trade up (presumably for a pass rusher) may have been a blessing in disguise. The impact of the addition of Humphrey, Bowser and Williams should be felt almost immediately. I'm of the mind that you'd be hard pressed to see these needs more effectively addressed. 

[52520Andrew]

3 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

Another part of what allowed me to have this pick grow on me was the way CBs went flying off the board in the late 1st and early 2nd. I really thought that pass rusher was going to be a more challenging need to fill and I wanted it filled in the 1st round with either Barnett or Reddick. Of course, to get either of those two would have required a trade up.

Given some of the pass rush help we were able to get later in the draft, failing to trade up (presumably for a pass rusher) may have been a blessing in disguise. The impact of the addition of Humphrey, Bowser and Williams should be felt almost immediately. I'm of the mind that you'd be hard pressed to see these needs more effectively addressed. 

Yeah Williams and Bowser will be nice, especially excited about Williams in the 2 minute drill. We have needed a guy like that for a long time

[balfan23]

19 hours ago, allblackraven said:

He had proper color shirt for that workout

Yeah he did ... I  loved his comment at the end .. in answer to "How are you feeling" - "I'm feeling like a Baltimore Raven, that's how I'm feeling!" 

[Underdogsontop!]

Welcome Marlon! I have to admit I was surprised we selected him. Not because I thought he was a reach. Mainly because this CB class was pretty deep and we have made improvements already with our secondary. People might not like what I'm about to say but I'd rather have Marlon then R foster and J Allen. Foster because we have CJ and our FO has been known for finding good ILB's in later rounds or UDFA. Allen due to injuries. So I assumed we were going to go with the next pass rusher or O line. I'm glad though that we got marlon, I'm wondering if he'll compete and end up starting this year over someone? Lol

[BmoreBird22]

14 hours ago, arnie_uk said:

Purplehorseman is really pushing him as an ss. I see a bit of compatibility when I watch him. What would the likes of @BmoreBird22 say to that?

Without spitting the dummy our because of the poster that suggests it lol.

He likened him to kam chancellor 

I think he fully could play safety, but if you're a premiere corner talent, why would you play safety?

[RayRayRaven]

2 hours ago, balfan23 said:

I noted Jon Gruden really emphasizing something that I had not thought of but seems to make sense.

if u liistenin to joh gruden u gonna be confused. he the guy that worked out with tebow and says he was ready to star in the nfl. much more than that of all the talkin heads on tv gruden is the guy that nos the least.

One guy he blasted on this front is Hooker.

If say no evil gruden blasted hooker that s all u need to know. hooker will ball out.  are you serreiously quotin that mouth without a head?

When you look at the report on Humphrey, it would seem like the things he needs to work out can be worked on, such as downfield coverage and tracking of the ball. It doesn't seem like he needs to be coached up on how to lay the wood. 

he needs work on downfield coverage and trackin a ball and we draffed him as a corna on our number 1 pic?  are you listin to urself? 

So - I'll take that as a good thing. Hopefully he can get these issues fixed and quickly. It also is helpful that we've got a nice set of safeties to help on deep coverage. I know we don't want to rush him, but I'd like to see him making on impact on this defense ... sooner rather than later. 

I have such a headache that's what happens when u draff matt elam in a bama uni.  I understand bein hopeful but has anyone watchd the film on humpf?  anyone?

 

[balfan23]

10 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

I noted Jon Gruden really emphasizing something that I had not thought of but seems to make sense.

if u liistenin to joh gruden u gonna be confused. he the guy that worked out with tebow and says he was ready to star in the nfl. much more than that of all the talkin heads on tv gruden is the guy that nos the least.

One guy he blasted on this front is Hooker.

If say no evil gruden blasted hooker that s all u need to know. hooker will ball out.  are you serreiously quotin that mouth without a head?

When you look at the report on Humphrey, it would seem like the things he needs to work out can be worked on, such as downfield coverage and tracking of the ball. It doesn't seem like he needs to be coached up on how to lay the wood. 

he needs work on downfield coverage and trackin a ball and we draffed him as a corna on our number 1 pic?  are you listin to urself? 

So - I'll take that as a good thing. Hopefully he can get these issues fixed and quickly. It also is helpful that we've got a nice set of safeties to help on deep coverage. I know we don't want to rush him, but I'd like to see him making on impact on this defense ... sooner rather than later. 

I have such a headache that's what happens when u draff matt elam in a bama uni.  I understand bein hopeful but has anyone watchd the film on humpf?  anyone?

What Gruden said - does it make logical sense? I'm not sure why I'm bothering to ask you, but I'd say yes. Discredit him with whatever you can drag up, I really don't care. 

If you think anyone we're going to select at #16 is without flaw, then you're dreaming. Heck, you generally can't draft someone #1 overall without a number of things that need to be worked on. "Are you listen to urself?" 

Speaking of headaches ... many are caused by your posts. 

There will be a lot I will miss when these boards close. Your posts won't be among them. 

[RayRayRaven]

19 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

What Gruden said - does it make logical sense? I'm not sure why I'm bothering to ask you, but I'd say yes. Discredit him with whatever you can drag up, I really don't care. 

If you think anyone we're going to select at #16 is without flaw, then you're dreaming. Heck, you generally can't draft someone #1 overall without a number of things that need to be worked on. "Are you listen to urself?" 

Speaking of headaches ... many are caused by your posts. 

There will be a lot I will miss when these boards close. Your posts won't be among them. 

an one otha thang, they sayed the vary same thing about elam thatg he culd bring the lumba. 

I kno u have to hope but goin in of all the firse round pics humpf is a monument headache.  say it aint so

Edited Monday at 01:43 AM by RayRayRaven

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

10 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

 

Yea I've watched the film on him. And he was probably the best CB in the draft for a Cover 2 defense which we happen to play a lot of. 

Everyone always complains about our zone with the CBs playing 5 yds off the ball and always forcing the underneath stuff. 

We draft a CB who excels in that type of coverage and everyone complains. He is awesome with the ball in front of him and has plenty of quickness and speed to do so. 

Probably the best tackler of the CBs in the draft too. So he can close the underneath stuff and tackle immediately. 

Couple that now with a pass rusher or 2 that can hit home fast while just rushing 4 and you've got the recipe the close out the close games. That's the difference between 7-9 and 10-6. 

 

Our scheme (and safety help) hides his weaknesses and plays to his strengths. So he'll be put in position to succeed while he works on finding the football with his back to the QB. I bet you'll be able to count on 1 hand the number of times he's in that position this year. 

 

Have you watched the tape?

[RayRayRaven]

1 hour ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I think he fully could play safety, but if you're a premiere corner talent, why would you play safety?

I give up 

all can say is my draff required a cb and humpf was eliminated in my cb slot thars nothin in his film or play to make one say he the guy worstest even he looks like elam comin up to make the hit on a low talent ball carier. omg

watch the jags Jalen myrick he will out play humpf. he went in the 7th round

 

[rossihunter2]

Just now, RayRayRaven said:

I give up 

all can say is my draff required a cb and humpf was eliminated in my cb slot thars nothin in his film or play to make one say he the guy worstest even he looks like elam comin up to make the hit on a low talent ball carier. omg

watch the jags Jalen myrick he will out play humpf. he went in the 7th round

 

it's ok if you dont think marlon humphrey will be a good cb because we have marshall yanda in the wings ready to play outside corner in stead...

[RayRayRaven]

Just now, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Yea I've watched the film on him. And he was probably the best CB in the draft for a Cover 2 defense which we happen to play a lot of. 

Everyone always complains about our zone with the CBs playing 5 yds off the ball and always forcing the underneath stuff. 

We draft a CB who excels in that type of coverage and everyone complains. He is awesome with the ball in front of him and has plenty of quickness and speed to do so. 

Probably the best tackler of the CBs in the draft too. So he can close the underneath stuff and tackle immediately. 

Couple that now with a pass rusher or 2 that can hit home fast while just rushing 4 and you've got the recipe the close out the close games. That's the difference between 7-9 and 10-6. 

 

Our scheme (and safety help) hides his weaknesses and plays to his strengths. So he'll be put in position to succeed while he works on finding the football with his back to the QB. I bet you'll be able to count on 1 hand the number of times he's in that position this year. 

 

Have you watched the tape?

all of it and he will fail in monument way.  this elam all again. he was elimanated as not draffable and we made him our numba 1.  we made him r numba 1 we made him r numba 1 we made him r numba 1

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

5 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

an one otha thang, they said the vary same thing about elam thatg he culd bring the lumba. 

I kno u have to hope but goin in of all the firse round pics humpf is a monument headache.  say it aint so

If you think Elam and Humphrey are even slightly comparable that says all I need to know about your ability to evaluate players. 

Elam "could lay the wood" by launching his body into people. Always going for the highlight reel hit. But he took bad angles and never form tackled. Like never. 

Humphrey is as clean a tackler as you'll see at CB. Launches through the strike zone and wraps up the legs. Watch him tackle Fournette which most DL and LB's struggled to do.... let alone a CB giving up 45 lbs. 

Just stop before you embarrass yourself. 

[RayRayRaven]

2 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

it's ok if you dont think marlon humphrey will be a good cb because we have marshall yanda in the wings ready to play outside corner in stead...

an david car who has nevah missed a game. 

u know it wuldnt be so bad if they missed with a decent pic but to pic the wors coverage corna in the draff makes heads explod

[RayRayRaven]

3 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

If you think Elam and Humphrey are even slightly comparable that says all I need to know about your ability to evaluate players. 

Elam "could lay the wood" by launching his body into people. Always going for the highlight reel hit. But he took bad angles and never form tackled. Like never. 

Humphrey is as clean a tackler as you'll see at CB. Launches through the strike zone and wraps up the legs. Watch him tackle Fournette which most DL and LB's struggled to do.... let alone a CB giving up 45 lbs. 

Just stop before you embarrass yourself. 

u kno u are so wrong it says u shuld nevah have ur own bd itll take yrs to overcome this but tha silver linin is this is gonna be fatal we will get change afta this one otha thang bet I can find post of urs praisin cleats elam as the next ed reed jus like oz sayed

Edited Monday at 01:39 AM by RayRayRaven

[purpletide]

1 minute ago, RayRayRaven said:

an david car who has nevah missed a game. 

u know it wuldnt be so bad if they missed with a decent pic but to pic the wors coverage corna in the draff makes heads explod

*Derek Carr

He'll probably play middle-inside cornbacker

[balfan23]

25 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

u kno u are so wrong it says u shuld nevah have ur own bd itll take yrs to overcome this but tha silver linin is this is gonna be fatal we will get change afta this one otha thang bet I can find post of urs praisin cleats elam as the next ed reed jus like oz sayed

Wait - you said "I give up", yet posted 3 more times ... promises, promises. 

[RayRayRaven]

2 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

Wait - you said "I give up", yet posted 3 more times ... promises, promises. 

not gonna convinse u guys is all you gonna have to do it the hard way just like oz and decost.  if u  noticed have not had one critacle thang to say about the other pics have not responsive. this one though is not gonna go off without callin it out as killin us

[allblackraven]

3 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

Wait - you said "I give up", yet posted 3 more times ... promises, promises. 

If only you stopped responding to that nonsense

[balfan23]

Just now, allblackraven said:

If only you stopped responding to that nonsense

I basically never do ... but with the boards shutting down, I'm taking the opportunity to let a choice few know what I think, as I've basically had to remain silent and struggle to think if there is a valid rules based reason why I can just start eliminating some of these horribly annoying posts. 

[allblackraven]

1 minute ago, balfan23 said:

I basically never do ... but with the boards shutting down, I'm taking the opportunity to let a choice few know what I think, as I've basically had to remain silent and struggle to think if there is a valid rules based reason why I can just start eliminating some of these horribly annoying posts. 

Haha, mods life is tough.