2017 NFL Draft Day 1 "Game Thread"

[Sami84]

27 minutes ago, Yatagarasu said:

I wonder how Cam Robinson will do as a RT for our team.

 

Could be a very underrrated pick here.

 

Alabama x2!

 

we need a pass rusher..badly.. J.Willis/ Tim Williams/ Carl Lawson/T.Bowser/T.Hendrickson

If by some miracle forrest lamp is around though you do NOT pass up on a guy that can play across the line at an elite level.

[Edgar]

14 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

They wanted Barnett or Reddick. Ozzie said they tried to trade up somewhere in the teens but couldn't get it done. 

Had to be for one of those two. 

Wonder what the price to move up was?

[jdynamite]

Wow so I just woke up before my graveyard shift to watch part of last nights draft. I'm shocked to see Jonathan Allen and R.Foster on the board and we chose M.Humphrey instead. 

 

I was drooling over Allen all year..  so much for this BPA stuff lol

 

[jdynamite]

The m.humprhey pick ends my hope for Sidney Jones in the 3rd.  

Read his doctor said he should be healthy by September. 

[RaineV1]

16 minutes ago, jdynamite said:

Wow so I just woke up before my graveyard shift to watch part of last nights draft. I'm shocked to see Jonathan Allen and R.Foster on the board and we chose M.Humphrey instead. 

 

I was drooling over Allen all year..  so much for this BPA stuff lol

 

Allen has potentially big issues with his shoulders and back. The fact that Ozzie, who has good connections with 'Bama passed on him says a lot.

[Static]

28 minutes ago, jdynamite said:

The m.humprhey pick ends my hope for Sidney Jones in the 3rd.  

Read his doctor said he should be healthy by September. 

 

No thanks, don't want another rookie year Perriman

[jdynamite]

11 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

Allen has potentially big issues with his shoulders and back. The fact that Ozzie, who has good connections with 'Bama passed on him says a lot.

 

He was cleared and deemed healthy!  He has some arthritis in shoulder, no team gave him a failed physical or report.  

Every year the nonsense happens where some player has some issue that teams fear or he has degenerative knee that hasn't cost him yet but it will ( D.Bowers ). 

 

 

[Sami84]

1 minute ago, jdynamite said:

 

He was cleared and deemed healthy!  He has some arthritis in shoulder, no team gave him a failed physical or report.  

Every year the nonsense happens where some player has some issue that teams fear or he has degenerative knee that hasn't cost him yet but it will ( D.Bowers ). 

 

 

 

dont worry we have the great brandon williams...who needs a  guy that can rush the passer? DOn't question the wizard

[jdynamite]

2 minutes ago, Static said:

 

No thanks, don't want another rookie year Perriman

You do realize T.Suggs has had the same injury twice with no lingering issues. 

 

So why would you even compare it to Perriman? 

The team has added secondary help already neither Humphrey or Jones would go in as an immediate starter. 

 

Not to mention I said I was hoping before the draft he would be looked at in the 3rd round man. Not the first. 

[jdynamite]

1 minute ago, Sami84 said:

dont worry we have the great brandon williams...who needs a  guy that can rush the passer? DOn't question the wizard

Lol   

 

yeah I mean as I saw this unfolding i was thinking Allen's versatility and technique. Already plays in 3-4 moving across the line. Has excellent hand play. 

I never even dreamed he'd fall to us at 16. Never even had a simulated mock draft do that. 

Ahh well. 

 

[Sami84]

1 minute ago, jdynamite said:

Lol   

 

yeah I mean as I saw this unfolding i was thinking Allen's versatility and technique. Already plays in 3-4 moving across the line. Has excellent hand play. 

I never even dreamed he'd fall to us at 16. Never even had a simulated mock draft do that. 

Ahh well. 

 

 

alabama CBs...i mean apart from kareem jackson i cant think of a decent one in years..

[jdynamite]

Just now, Sami84 said:

alabama CBs...i mean apart from kareem jackson i cant think of a decent one in years..

Yeah that's true Kirkpatrick has been ok nothing special though not as bad as milliner lol. 

Not only that but if that's the pick why not trade back to about 25 and pick up a few picks. 

Even if Humphrey is gone there's T.White, G.Conley, plenty of other corners or maybe even get Takk at back of the 1st.  

[jdynamite]

I can't believe all 3 WRs (Davis, Williams and Ross ) went in the top 10. 

After Davis and Williams went my mind went to defense lol. 

[hen826957]

26 minutes ago, Static said:

 

No thanks, don't want another rookie year Perriman

I will still draft Sidney Jones if he makes it until the 3rd round.

Edited April 28 by hen826957

[Jonah DeVito]

Screw you Eagles. Dang it I could feel Barnett in a Ravens Jersey. Actually what I thought would end up happening is we were gonna pass him up for OJ or something. Really thought he would be there at 16 AGHHHH so frustrating

[jdynamite]

43 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

Allen has potentially big issues with his shoulders and back. The fact that Ozzie, who has good connections with 'Bama passed on him says a lot.

 

Lets recall Ozzie's Bama connections also led to T.Cody. 

And im one of the few that actually liked C.Upshaw even though he never pass rushed, I appreciate grunt work  

Of the recent Bama draft picks only Mosley has lived up to expectations. 

[Static]

2 minutes ago, jdynamite said:

 

Lets recall Ozzie's Bama connections also led to T.Cody. 

And im one of the few that actually liked C.Upshaw even though he never pass rushed, I appreciate grunt work  

Of the recent Bama draft picks only Mosley has lived up to expectations. 

 

 

Upshaw got a raw deal. He was pick #35 but was our first pick so he had first round expectations on him but we knew who he was. He was about as good of an edge setter that you can get. I remember complaining about how many times he would be in coverage too.

Edited April 28 by Static

[Sami84]

Have to be honest, i've tried to warm to this pick but outside of measurables, i just don't see value at all. He plays more like a SS than a corner..

questionable hips, questionable instincts in coverage and yes be does struggle to locate the ball. If we really wanted a corner we could have traded back and got guys as good if not better.

 

he's great at screens and stuff but why are we allergic to fluid playmaking corners?

I really don't understand what these guys see sometimes. 

[Sami84]

bleacher report named us as one of the 3 losers of the draft, said the same thing as me..pretty much

[Maryland]

2 hours ago, jdynamite said:

Lets recall Ozzie's Bama connections also led to T.Cody. 

And im one of the few that actually liked C.Upshaw even though he never pass rushed, I appreciate grunt work  

Of the recent Bama draft picks only Mosley has lived up to expectations. 

In the presser, Oz alludes to the fact that he expected Foster and Allen to be available at pick #16. It suggests that teams knew those players were going to tumble. Our FO was not the only one bearish on their potential, as is quite apparent. 

 

Anyway, I'm fine with the Humphrey pick; the value was adequate. Doesn't fill the biggest immediate need, but it would have been a position we needed to address in the future, considering Carr is turning 31 and has been in decline the past couple seasons. I would rather have had OJ Howard or traded down, but I'm glad we dodged Foster and Cam Robinson. Here's hoping he develops into a solid outside corner. 

Edited April 28 by Maryland

[Sami84]

17 minutes ago, Maryland said:

In the presser, Oz alludes to the fact that he expected Foster and Allen to be available at pick #16. It suggests that teams knew those players were going to tumble. Our FO was not the only one bearish on their potential, as is quite apparent. 

 

Anyway, I'm fine with the Humphrey pick; the value was adequate. Doesn't fill the biggest immediate need, but it would have been a position we needed to address in the future, considering Carr is turning 31 and has been in decline the past couple seasons. I would rather have had OJ Howard or traded down, but I'm glad we dodged Foster and Cam Robinson. Here's hoping he develops into a solid outside corner. 

 

dont think you've escaped cam robinson yet..

 

ozzie isn't done in destroying us..yet..

[JO_75]

Here's what I think happens tonight............. Everyone breathes a huge sigh of relief when Seattle, Jacksonville, Chargers or Carolina take Cam Robinson before our pick.

[Davesta]

I mean, a year ago today we were crying how we never spend a top 1-2 round pick on a cornerback. Brandon Carr is decent, not great. Plus he's 30. Jimmy smith can't finish a season. As great as tavon played, he's still a 5'8 nickel corner. I get the pick. I have a feeling Derek Barnett and hasson reddick was our 2 main defensive targets. But they got snatched up. I can live with this. Hopefully the draft falls in our favor and we grab a WR, pass rush, and OL with our 3 day 2 picks.  

[Sami84]

4 minutes ago, Davesta said:

I mean, a year ago today we were crying how we never spend a top 1-2 round pick on a cornerback. Brandon Carr is decent, not great. Plus he's 30. Jimmy smith can't finish a season. As great as tavon played, he's still a 5'8 nickel corner. I get the pick. I have a feeling Derek Barnett and hasson reddick was our 2 main defensive targets. But they got snatched up. I can live with this. Hopefully the draft falls in our favor and we grab a WR, pass rush, and OL with our 3 day 2 picks.  

 

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Why did he choose a corner that is more suited to SS? thats my issue. Why didn't he trade back? He overrated Marlon tremendously, they see something that isnt there. He will struggle.. if this was marshon lattimore or even a sidney jones i'd understand the pick, they are playmakers and fluid . HUmphreys really struggles with ball location and playing the ball in general. That isn't something you can ''teach'' you either have it or you dont. 

 

Ozzie really needs to go IMO.

Edited April 28 by Sami84

[Yatagarasu]

2nd Round Target:

Cam Robinson - OT

Zach Cunningham - LB

Curtis Samuel - WR

[Tru11]

41 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

Why did he choose a corner that is more suited to SS? thats my issue. Why didn't he trade back? He overrated Marlon tremendously, they see something that isnt there. He will struggle.. if this was marshon lattimore or even a sidney jones i'd understand the pick, they are playmakers and fluid . HUmphreys really struggles with ball location and playing the ball in general. That isn't something you can ''teach'' you either have it or you dont. 

 

Ozzie really needs to go IMO.

in order to trade back you need someone that wants to trade up and pay the price to do just that.

same goes for trading up, you need someone that wants to trade down for the price you are willing to offer.

 

 

[Kid87]

We gotta go offense first, probably o line. Forrest Lamp or Cam would be good. I honestly want a WR like Curtis Samuel

[allblackraven]

56 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

Here's what I think happens tonight............. Everyone breathes a huge sigh of relief when Seattle, Jacksonville, Chargers or Carolina take Cam Robinson before our pick.

Why? He'd be pretty solid pick in 2nd round but there's no way he lasts that long

[jazz1988]

4 hours ago, jdynamite said:

 

Lets recall Ozzie's Bama connections also led to T.Cody. 

And im one of the few that actually liked C.Upshaw even though he never pass rushed, I appreciate grunt work  

Of the recent Bama draft picks only Mosley has lived up to expectations. 

Can't forget about Jarrett Johnson who may not have been elite but  was a pretty good player for The Ravens. 

[GrimCoconut]

1 hour ago, Sami84 said:

Why did he choose a corner that is more suited to SS? thats my issue. Why didn't he trade back? He overrated Marlon tremendously, they see something that isnt there. He will struggle.. if this was marshon lattimore or even a sidney jones i'd understand the pick, they are playmakers and fluid . HUmphreys really struggles with ball location and playing the ball in general. That isn't something you can ''teach'' you either have it or you dont. 

 

Ozzie really needs to go IMO.

Humphrey's biggest issue is turning to find the football yes. He's fluid though. I also don't know if he's much of a ball skills guy but I imagine we chose him because of his measurables. I personally think Lamp, a WR, or obviously a pass rusher are at play here. I agree with the guys you named in Bowser and Willis and Williams and possibly Anderson but keep an eye on Derek Rivers. He's an excellent prospect and I could really see is target him in the second round. It'll be hard if Lamp is still around though. He's probably my top player right now 

Edited April 28 by GrimCoconut