Who would you take?

[Prino61]

If Mike Williams, Corey Davis and O.J Howard are on the board at 16 who would you take?

[Ravens4Real]

O.J. Howard has the higher ceiling to be a better TE than Williams and Davis have of being WR's.

But the Ravens have what seems like 7 average TE's and a massive need at WR. 

So a coin flip seems like the proper outcome. Personally, I'd take Howard in a heartbeat. But it's not going to happen.

[JoeyFlex5]

Tough call. Howard is such a dynamic beast but he's far less proven. What he brings as a run blocker is a very underrated part of his game, he's like another OT out there and coaches wouldn't be able to take him off the field. He's proven to turn dump offs into huge plays, he hasn't had much opportunity to make those jimmy graham style catches but I'll be surprised if he isn't able to, and he runs solid routes in the few times he's gotten the chance. 

But we need a wr and one of mike wills type... I think I'd have to go with him just because of our investment at TE and the hole at wr. I'm a bpa guy but it's hard to address the same position over and over without seeing what we've got there

[trevorsteadman]

3 hours ago, Prino61 said:

If Mike Williams, Corey Davis and O.J Howard are on the board at 16 who would you take?

O.J. Howard easily. He's being talked about being the best tight end since forever. Davis and Williams are good receivers but no one has ever said they are the best in years. If depth at tight end is a concern, sounds like Boyle will likely be transitioning to fullback and you can always list Pitta as a wide receiver, because that is what he is. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Really tough call. It'd be between Williams and Howard for me.

Howard i think has the highest floor, and provides and dynamic, potentially dominant receiving threat while also helping the improve the run game and allows you to be multiple with your personnel with ability to give run/pass options out of 2 TE sets.

Though i think Williams has the highest ceiling in that he could be an AJ Green, Deandre Hopkins like WR that can dominate a game and give Joe a target thats open even when he's covered. I think theres a chance hes a Crabtree like WR thats a decent #1 on a lot of teams but a #2 on a team with an elite WR, and his ceiling is through the roof.

 

Tough call. But probably bc we have a number of above replacement level TE's (and a number of young ones like Maxx that have break out potential) i probably go Williams.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Here's another one.

Let's say Fournette, Barnett, Hooker and Williams are there.

Who you taking?

 

 

(And suggestion for this thread -- make it about anyone suggesting their own personal "Who ya taking" scenarios for ongoing discussion... not to hi jack OP though)

[Prino61]

11 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Here's another one.

Let's say Fournette, Barnett, Hooker and Williams are there.

Who you taking?

 

 

(And suggestion for this thread -- make it about anyone suggesting their own personal "Who ya taking" scenarios for ongoing discussion... not to hi jack OP though)

I would have to go with Fournette. RBs like him don't come around to often

 

Our play action would be a thing of beauty

[January J]

In the first scenario I think we'd go with Davis although Ozzie would be gritting his teeth wanting Howard. Probably reminds him of himself.

2nd scenario simply won't happen- but just for kicks I'd say we'd take Barnett. A year ago I would've said we'd be absolutely nuts to pass up on Fournette but I don't think he's going to transition into the NFL like people think he will and I don't think he's the type of back we're looking for. I feel crazy saying that and maybe I'm dead wrong- I just see him as a big boom or bust guy.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

2 minutes ago, Prino61 said:

I would have to go with Fournette. RBs like him don't come around to often

 

Our play action would be a thing of beauty

That scenario would be so hard for me. I think Fournette can be a Jamal Lewis like impact. Lead back that can have some MONSTER seasons if hes fed the ball consistently. And a dominant run game is Flacco's best friend.

But then, i think pass rush is our biggest need, and i think Barnett becomes a dominant edge rusher. Hes my favorite prospect, though im not 100% hes the best prospect.

Hooker is phenomenal and has Ed Reed like raw ability. But injury and lack of playing time scare me a bit. Plus safety is easily our strongest position, though 2 of the 3 top are getting older. Having another Ed Reed would be incredible.

And then Williams is my guy. Love him. Prob my 2nd favorite prospect for us.

 

I really have no idea. I prob dont take Hooker just bc were good at safety though i prob start worrying immediately that hes going to make me regret it. I like some of the WRs later so i prob dont take Williams. idk... maybe fournette. itd be so hard to pass on barnett though.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

4 minutes ago, January J said:

In the first scenario I think we'd go with Davis although Ozzie would be gritting his teeth wanting Howard. Probably reminds him of himself.

2nd scenario simply won't happen- but just for kicks I'd say we'd take Barnett. A year ago I would've said we'd be absolutely nuts to pass up on Fournette but I don't think he's going to transition into the NFL like people think he will and I don't think he's the type of back we're looking for. I feel crazy saying that and maybe I'm dead wrong- I just see him as a big boom or bust guy.

its not a what would the ravens do -- at least my question isnt.

Its what would you do if youre running the ravens. doesnt mean its this reality where we're picking 16. just those are the 4 guys. who u taking.

[rossihunter2]

33 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Here's another one.

Let's say Fournette, Barnett, Hooker and Williams are there.

Who you taking?

 

 

(And suggestion for this thread -- make it about anyone suggesting their own personal "Who ya taking" scenarios for ongoing discussion... not to hi jack OP though)

Hooker, Barnett, Williams, Fournette but outside of Hooker I feel like the other 3 would be pretty close together - malik hooker just does things that not many safeties do

[RavensDieHard21]

Davis v Williams🤔 

I've gone back and forth so much. Williams has an immense ceiling and his size/ catch radius cannot be overlooked. He has also done damage against elite competition.

Davis on the other hand is so much more polished and has good size as well. He attacks the ball and is versatile enough to play inside or outside. I see him as a work horse, a guy that always has something to prove and will work for the ball on each play. He hasn't faces elite competition however. 

If both are on the board I would have to flip a coin and walk away because I couldn't make that call. If Williams is 100% committed and focused I think he had all-pro potential, but if he slacks off, he could be just another big receiver. 

 

[rossihunter2]

32 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Davis v Williams🤔 

I've gone back and forth so much. Williams has an immense ceiling and his size/ catch radius cannot be overlooked. He has also done damage against elite competition.

Davis on the other hand is so much more polished and has good size as well. He attacks the ball and is versatile enough to play inside or outside. I see him as a work horse, a guy that always has something to prove and will work for the ball on each play. He hasn't faces elite competition however. 

If both are on the board I would have to flip a coin and walk away because I couldn't make that call. If Williams is 100% committed and focused I think he had all-pro potential, but if he slacks off, he could be just another big receiver. 

 

I still err on the side of Davis, I know he faced off coverage a lot etc. and the level of competition is lower, and he didnt run the 40 - and yet watching him high point the ball and hands catch it and the way he runs routes is beautiful

either way id be a fan of the pick if they were the two options

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

59 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Davis v Williams🤔 

I've gone back and forth so much. Williams has an immense ceiling and his size/ catch radius cannot be overlooked. He has also done damage against elite competition.

Davis on the other hand is so much more polished and has good size as well. He attacks the ball and is versatile enough to play inside or outside. I see him as a work horse, a guy that always has something to prove and will work for the ball on each play. He hasn't faces elite competition however. 

If both are on the board I would have to flip a coin and walk away because I couldn't make that call. If Williams is 100% committed and focused I think he had all-pro potential, but if he slacks off, he could be just another big receiver. 

 

I go Williams. I think better fit for Flacco's skill set and i think higher floor. I see him at worst being like Michael Crabtree, good enough to be a #1 on a decent and balanced receiver group, but a #2 to an elite WR. Capable of making big plays and being a big time threat on 3rd downs and in the red zone.

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Here's another one.

Let's say Fournette, Barnett, Hooker and Williams are there.

Who you taking?

 

 

(And suggestion for this thread -- make it about anyone suggesting their own personal "Who ya taking" scenarios for ongoing discussion... not to hi jack OP though)

That's impossible. I'd really wanna nail the pick so I'd be scared to take a risky guy, which makes fournette and Barnett attractive, but I think hooker is a top 5 talent despite the injury and lack of experience