Which Draft Analysts Do You Find Most Reputable?

[Maryland]

There's a lot of random analysts out there, but who do you pay the most attention to? Some names I think of are...

 

Mike Mayock: I appreciate that he's not pressured to do a mock every week/month, he's intelligent, and he actually talks with team/league sources.

Charlie Campbell: He seems pretty well connected, and he knows the prospects well, but I'm a little annoyed he's clung to the Cam Robinson rumor so strongly for an entire month. Keep in mind they clung to the Rams/Wentz rumor until the bitter end based purely off of one incorrect rumor they received/reported. 

Kiper and McShay: I guess they're the biggest names thanks to B$PN, but I wonder how much they actually communicate with NFL sources.

Daniel Jeremiah: He seems to know who we pick before we pick them lol, possibly because he has a good idea of who our FO tends to like after working in our FO as a scout. Pretty sure he got the Mosley and Stanley picks correct. 

Matt Miller: I don't really read BR, but I know others like him a lot.

 

Anyone else?

Edited April 27 by Maryland

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Matt Miller, Mayock, and DJ are my go tos. All three could honestly be GMs, even if they have their fair share of misses. If I need any advice from a person I know,  I generally look @-Truth-'s way. 

 

I don't trust Kiper or McShay and Walterfootball and Charlie are freaking terrible

[Jacquouille]

Matt Miller above all else, and I also like Mayock's and Jeremiah's hindsight, although they tend to make some strange picks at times. Brooks is good but at times he tends to put a Captain Obvious cap. 

[Maryland]

11 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

Matt Miller above all else, and I also like Mayock's and Jeremiah's hindsight, although they tend to make some strange picks at times. Brooks is good but at times he tends to put a Captain Obvious cap. 

Bucky Brooks tends to always make a few glaringly dumb picks in his drafts from my observations over the years. 

[Italian Raven]

Matt Miller is the one I end up agreeing more often with. Sure I also find DJ and Mayock pretty reliable but some evaluations leave me puzzled. 

[JoeyFlex5]

Me

jk. Probably mayock. I used to respect Charlie Campbell but he went off the rails this year with the ravens so I'm not riding with him anymore... Robinson and wormley 1 and 2, please no.

Edited April 27 by JoeyFlex5

[rossihunter2]

I'll throw out a surprising one - Lance Zierlein - ignore his mocks but the stuff his "sources" say is always interesting and he posts stuff from sources throughout the process so you can see in some cases the development of critical thinking about specific players - he's eloquent and has a good handle on a huge number of players (he writes all the profiles on the NFL website) - mayock gets a lot of credit for talking to league guys and knowing a huge number of prospects but I'd say Zierlein is sneakily on the same level

[rmw10]

Aside from the aforementioned names, Tony Pauline does some good work as well.  He's best with his rumors about some of those late round, unheralded guys.

[RavensFanMania]

5 hours ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Matt Miller, Mayock, and DJ are my go tos. All three could honestly be GMs, even if they have their fair share of misses. If I need any advice from a person I know,  I generally look @-Truth-'s way. 

 

I don't trust Kiper or McShay and Walterfootball and Charlie are freaking terrible

I'd add Charlie Casserly as someone I respect as a GM and even more so as a scout.  That being the guys that are out there that seem to do the best on mock drafts are Mayock, Ben Standig, and Forrest Long to name a few.  I'm ok with Charlie Campbell for the most part, but not Walter.  Although he's going to be wrong with his Cam Robinson prediction.

Edited April 27 by RavensFanMania

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I love Mayock. Doesn't usually fall into the group think traps. And he really puts the work in. He's at almost every single pro day.... and he doesn't do stupid baseless speculation. If he doesn't have hard evidence of something he doesn't speculate. He simply rolls with his own evaluations even when the popular opinions overwhelmingly differs. 

 

Walter/Charlie have a pretty good track record of being on point - especially with us. Charlie has also dropped some info well before If became popularly accepted as true... like Awuzie being in the convo for mid-1st and a lot of teams seeing Cam Robinson as a possibility early mid 1st too.  I just pray that they've lost it this year. I HATE their picks for us.

I like DJ a lot too... especially bc of his ties here. 

Mel Kiper I don't find as reliable any more, seems to have lost a step or two and I don't feel like he actually evaluates the prospects himself. And if he does I really don't agree with his evaluations. 

But he's a legend in the draft game. He pretty much started the whole mock draft industry, and love him for being an unabashed homer. 

 

And as much as I like PFF for their analysis and grading of NFL players most of the time..... their college football grading and draft coverage sucks. They're way too tied to their own grades and seem stubbornly stuck to their opinions of players even when it's clear that real scouts and FO's see certain players totally different. 

[Somerset Ravens]

Mel Kiper, long live the King !

[-Truth-]

8 hours ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Matt Miller, Mayock, and DJ are my go tos. All three could honestly be GMs, even if they have their fair share of misses. If I need any advice from a person I know,  I generally look @-Truth-'s way. 

 

I don't trust Kiper or McShay and Walterfootball and Charlie are freaking terrible

Much appreciated.

[ravensnation5220]

How about Joel Klatt. I kinda like him this year.

Really though i dont usually trust anyone  individually but I like to focus on a concensus of all analysts 

[-Truth-]

I'm personally a fan of Mayock, Jeremiah and Cossell. I've been using PFF as a resource for almost a decade, but their draft coverage can be spotty at times. They typically go off the reservation to an extent, so they're a solid go-to when looking up prospects who aren't known or discussed. They earned some credit last year for listing the likes of Cody Whitehair, Michael Thomas, Karl Joseph and Chris Jones as first round talents. Same goes for their skepticism on Darron Lee and the Alabama DT duo. But they do habitually fall victim to judging by the bottom line and overrate prospects based on the results instead of assessing their traits. One of the biggest sins being ranking Rashard Higgins in the Top 40 while somehow assessing Deion Jones to be an undraftable prospect, with the latter being a complete head scratcher.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

22 minutes ago, -Truth- said:

I'm personally a fan of Mayock, Jeremiah and Cossell. I've been using PFF as a resource for almost a decade, but their draft coverage can be spotty at times. They typically go off the reservation to an extent, so they're a solid go-to when looking up prospects who aren't known or discussed. They earned some credit last year for listing the likes of Cody Whitehair, Michael Thomas, Karl Joseph and Chris Jones as first round talents. Same goes for their skepticism on Darron Lee and the Alabama DT duo. But they do habitually fall victim to judging by the bottom line and overrate prospects based on the results instead of assessing their traits. One of the biggest sins being ranking Rashard Higgins in the Top 40 while somehow assessing Deion Jones to be an undraftable prospect, with the latter being a complete head scratcher.

Yea this year its having Carl Lawson going to us at 16 by every one of their contributors basically.

And having Mack Hollins as our 2nd round pick i think. They LOVE Mack Hollins.

[cobrajet]

I always thought McShay was pretty good.

[-Truth-]

7 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Yea this year its having Carl Lawson going to us at 16 by every one of their contributors basically.

And having Mack Hollins as our 2nd round pick i think. They LOVE Mack Hollins.

They absolutely do. Perhaps Hollins goes in mid-rounds, but their comparison of Mike Wallace raised a few eyebrows, and a 2nd rounder would be a hefty price to pay, especially since Lawson could fall to our 2nd. They're also higher than most on Jordan Willis. That's not to say that any of those three will struggle. Their Ravens mock looks to be the most egregious. I also don't see Leonard Fournette falling to 24, or going to Oakland for that matter.

[jboy19]

Somewhat related question: anyone know the best way to watch the draft? I've always just stuck to ESPN, but always wondered if theres better options out there. 

[Maryland]

After seeing Kiper and McShay's mocks today, I'm about ready to toss them aside as anything more than click-bait lol.

I appreciate the input. 

[5sticks]

I asked myself the same question earlier this week regarding accuracy of credibility of draft analysts and have come to the conclusion that it's all folly.  Much like college football polling it's really designed to keep me engaged and "clicking".  Bad NFL franchises panic, follow trends, do silly things, and spread false information or rumors to manipulate others for their own best interest...just like the rest of us do in real life.   Thus, using pre-draft analysis and evaluation to predict the actual draft is pointless.

Who am I kidding...I'll be clicking next year, too, because I love this stuff just like the rest of you!

I like Mayock & Mel because I feel like they are giving me their own opinion vs. regurgitating team-speak.  I think McShay is a joke.

[ellicottraven]

Daniel Jeremaiah followed by McShay and Kiper. I just think Mayock is a little too slick and tries to put on this facade of being a great football mind that knows more than everybody else.