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[Ravens4Real]

We have covered who we do and don't want the Ravens to take. Now let's do the flip side of that. 

Who do we not want to see the Bengals, Browns and Steelers draft? Who do we want them to take?

[Ravenskid52752]

 

 

Charlie Campbell‏ @DraftCampbell

 

Sources tell me the #Steelers are gauging teams interest in #NotreDame QB DeShone Kizer. Pit targeting him at 30: (link: http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill) walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumorm…

1:20 PM · Apr 25, 2017

[JO_75]

7 minutes ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

 

 

Charlie Campbell‏ @DraftCampbell

 

Sources tell me the #Steelers are gauging teams interest in #NotreDame QB DeShone Kizer. Pit targeting him at 30: (link: http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill) walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumorm…

1:20 PM · Apr 25, 2017

Kizer as Ben's replacement? Don't make it easy on us when Ben retires.

[Ravenskid52752]

1 minute ago, JO_75 said:

Kizer as Ben's replacement? Don't make it easy on us when Ben retires.

Yup from what I hear it's him or Peppers.

[Ravenskid52752]

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BigTimeFootball®‏ @BigTimeFootball

 

Report: Bengals considering John Ross for No.9 pick

 

[JO_75]

3 minutes ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

Yup from what I hear it's him or Peppers.

The Broncos are back to irrelevance without Manning and the Steelers will fall to irrelevance once Ben goes. I really hate how whether or not your competitive revolves around having a quarterback and not having one. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1 minute ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

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BigTimeFootball®‏ @BigTimeFootball

 

Report: Bengals considering John Ross for No.9 pick

 

Thatd be pretty cool.

Unfortunately we open the season against them, because he'll be tough to defend across from Green for the 5 games he'll be healthy as a pro... but at least another good player falls to us.

[Ravenskid52752]

6 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Thatd be pretty cool.

Unfortunately we open the season against them, because he'll be tough to defend across from Green for the 5 games he'll be healthy as a pro... but at least another good player falls to us.

Lol

[Ravenskid52752]

round The NFL‏ @AroundTheNFL

 

Browns discussed trading up in draft with at least three teams in the top eight, @MikeSilver reports (link: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000802475/article/browns-discussed-trading-up-with-three-teams-in-top-eight?campaign=Twitter_atn) nfl.com/news/story/0ap… 

[Ravenskid52752]

 

 

Albert Breer‏ @AlbertBreer

 

3) Browns’ consideration of Trubisky at 1 is real. Potential compromise: take Garrett at 1, be aggressive in moving up from 12.

[Ravens4Real]

26 minutes ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

Yup from what I hear it's him or Peppers.

Not a chance they take Peppers after the failed drug test. I'd honestly say that it's below 5% chance that happens. 

Dont think they take Kizer either. Character issues and high prone to bust.

I think the Bengals take Barnett, Browns Garett and Trubinsky

[balfan23]

20 minutes ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

Albert Breer‏ @AlbertBreer

3) Browns’ consideration of Trubisky at 1 is real. Potential compromise: take Garrett at 1, be aggressive in moving up from 12.

I'd suspect they take Garrett at 1 and try to move up from 12 to get Trubisky. The question is whether they'd need to jump the Jets to get him. If so, trading with TEN at #5 is going to be pretty costly, but I think they've got a wealth of picks to make that happen. 

Of course, that doesn't work if SF is bent on taking him. I just don't think they are. 

I'm getting excited by the talk of potential run on QBs in the top 15. 3 QBs in the top 15 would be absolutely brilliant. Between CLE, SF, NYJ and either BUF or ARZ ... it certainly is possible, despite all the QB evaluators saying that none of them are worth it. Three in the top 15 will push someone awesome to us (of course, we'll probably still trade back and pick an O lineman!)

[balfan23]

48 minutes ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

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BigTimeFootball®‏ @BigTimeFootball

Report: Bengals considering John Ross for No.9 pick

That would be fine by me, because I don't think we want him. 

[Ravens4Real]

As an opponent of the Browns, I'd hate to see them draft Garett 1st, Hooker or Conley drop to 12th and they are smart and take one of them and then use their draft capital to get back into the back end of the first round and pick Mahomes. 

Id be impressed if they pulled it off. But that would also scream competent organization. So I'll believe it when I see it.

[KBoum]

If, for some reason Marlon Humphrey is still there at 30 for the Steelers... he's their pick. If not  T.J Watt or Carl Lawson. Well thats according to this site :

http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2017/04/22/historic-trends-suggest-steelers-will-draft-cb-marlon-humphrey-in-round-1/

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Assuming these trends continue in 2017, Pittsburgh will draft a 21-year old junior with at least two years experience as a starter and with a high SPARQ score. He will come from a well-ranked school within a power five conference and will have met the Steelers at his pro day or in Pittsburgh.

Using these criteria on the players the Steelers have been connected with this offseason, it is hard to find a name that fits these trends well. Ultimately, this profile type leads us to Alabama cornerback Marlon Humphrey, a player who matches all of the criteria and at a position of need. Names like T.J. Watt and Carl Lawson come close, but Humphrey ticks all the right boxes for Pittsburgh.

nice read

Edited April 26 by KBoum

[JoeyFlex5]

3 hours ago, balfan23 said:

I'd suspect they take Garrett at 1 and try to move up from 12 to get Trubisky. The question is whether they'd need to jump the Jets to get him. If so, trading with TEN at #5 is going to be pretty costly, but I think they've got a wealth of picks to make that happen. 

Of course, that doesn't work if SF is bent on taking him. I just don't think they are. 

I'm getting excited by the talk of potential run on QBs in the top 15. 3 QBs in the top 15 would be absolutely brilliant. Between CLE, SF, NYJ and either BUF or ARZ ... it certainly is possible, despite all the QB evaluators saying that none of them are worth it. Three in the top 15 will push someone awesome to us (of course, we'll probably still trade back and pick an O lineman!)

man if the browns get desperate and the titans bring in another boatload of picks, they are gonna end up winning a super bowl soon. you can only draft so many players in the top 100 back to back before you suddenly have a stupidly talented roster. 

they really lucked out by sitting #2 last year despite having a franchise qb.

[52520Andrew]

7 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

man if the browns get desperate and the titans bring in another boatload of picks, they are gonna end up winning a super bowl soon. you can only draft so many players in the top 100 back to back before you suddenly have a stupidly talented roster. 

they really lucked out by sitting #2 last year despite having a franchise qb.

Unless you are the Browns, then you just get Trent Richardsons and Brandon Weedens along with your Justin Gilberts and Johnny Manziels

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, 52520Andrew said:

Unless you are the Browns, then you just get Trent Richardsons and Brandon Weedens along with your Justin Gilberts and Johnny Manziels

Well... yeah. Lol, they're the browns. 

The titans have done well though, I thought trading away DGB was a bad idea, he has enormous potential and appears to have his head in straight and they could use some wr help. They've drafted well recently, if Kevin Dodd develops into half of his potential then they got a good value, Conklin is elite and he and Lewan give them their identity on offense. Derrick Henry would probably be a bad pick on any team except for the titans, he can play well in that downhill power scheme. If they get OJ Howard and a good wr and cb in the mid first and third rounds then they are on their way to something big

[RavensDieHard21]

I don't care who the Browns get, hopefully they take Trubisky early. If they were smart they would just go BPA at 12 and keep their picks, but they are the Browns. 

I would hate to see the Bengals take Davis, Williams or Barnett. I hope they just take Foster and don't steal one of our guys. 

If Steelers take QB or TE that would be fine. I'm just hoping they don't get any crazy defensive steal. 

[RavensFanMania]

I think the Bengals will draft Foster or Barnett since Lewis has a tendency to take players out of the SEC in round 1,  Cleveland will take Garrett and Trubisky or Watson.  We have a boatload of players we could land at our picks, i.e. Cory Davis, Mike Williams, OJ Howard, Hassan Reddick, Reuben Foster, Cam Robinson, Ryan Ramczcyk, Forrest Lamp, Marlon Humphrey, Takk, Taco, Barnett or Dalvin Cook.  These are in no particular order.

[balfan23]

12 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

man if the browns get desperate and the titans bring in another boatload of picks, they are gonna end up winning a super bowl soon. you can only draft so many players in the top 100 back to back before you suddenly have a stupidly talented roster. 

they really lucked out by sitting #2 last year despite having a franchise qb.

I know I was thinking the same thing. The key here is whether or not Marriotta can stay healthy and be at least a solid franchise QB. If he can be that, with the picks they've been making of late and with the picks they currently have, I firmly believe you are looking at the odds on favorite to dominate that division for the next 5 to 10 years. 

[ellicottraven]

16 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Thatd be pretty cool.

Unfortunately we open the season against them, because he'll be tough to defend across from Green for the 5 games he'll be healthy as a pro... but at least another good player falls to us.

Bengals always choose the troubled ones because somehow they feel they get value because nobody else wants them. Example being Burfict and Adam Jones. So, I suspect they're going to choose all the players with issues. They take Foster with their first and take Conley with their second and so on...

[JoeyFlex5]

4 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

I know I was thinking the same thing. The key here is whether or not Marriotta can stay healthy and be at least a solid franchise QB. If he can be that, with the picks they've been making of late and with the picks they currently have, I firmly believe you are looking at the odds on favorite to dominate that division for the next 5 to 10 years. 

With that line and power run game to lean on, mariota just needs to be more opportunistic and less aggressive. Don't run as a first option, take the run when there's an opening, and scramble to let receivers get open rather than scramble for a run. If he adjusts to be a legit NFL scrambler rather than a running qb than they could dominate. Oj Howard would be a devastating addition that would make their offense really hard to game plan against. 

[rossihunter2]

6 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

With that line and power run game to lean on, mariota just needs to be more opportunistic and less aggressive. Don't run as a first option, take the run when there's an opening, and scramble to let receivers get open rather than scramble for a run. If he adjusts to be a legit NFL scrambler rather than a running qb than they could dominate. Oj Howard would be a devastating addition that would make their offense really hard to game plan against. 

to be fair to mariota he has played like a pass-first qb - obviously there are some flashy runs in his highlight reel but he's been a pretty damn good pocket passer in his first 2 years

[JoeyFlex5]

41 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

to be fair to mariota he has played like a pass-first qb - obviously there are some flashy runs in his highlight reel but he's been a pretty damn good pocket passer in his first 2 years

Oh I wasn't calling him a run first qb, or at least I didn't mean to lol. I was more referring to his style of running as a qb, rather than buying time to make downfield throws and avoiding pressure, he's more likely to take off running and putting himself at exposure to injury

[Edgar]

Bengals - 11 picks

Browns - 12 picks

Steelers - 8 picks.

Bengals are in good position to make a run at the division, particularly if they draft well.

Possibly John Ross or Dalvin Cook at nine. Either would be a handful.

On defense I can see them getting Reddick, Barnett, or Foster.

Pittsburgh could end up with McDowell, Watt...Budda Baker would be a nice pairing with last year's second rounder.

Man, I'd like to be more optimistic but we have a lot of catching up to do personnel wise.

1 We haven't drafted particularly well of late

2 we've allowed certain players to walk that to an outsider, would have made sense to retain, consequently opening new holes that need filling.

3 we have not one player on either side of the ball that gives our opponents even moderate consternation.

On paper, we are AT LEAST a year away ....if we do everything right. 

This draft ought to change this teams direction. My pause comes to play in that I feel our FO may be drafting more to fill needs than drafts of old.

Drafting to save their jobs.

[trevorsteadman]

23 minutes ago, Edgar said:

Bengals - 11 picks

Browns - 12 picks

Steelers - 8 picks.

Bengals are in good position to make a run at the division, particularly if they draft well.

Possibly John Ross or Dalvin Cook at nine. Either would be a handful.

On defense I can see them getting Reddick, Barnett, or Foster.

Pittsburgh could end up with McDowell, Watt...Budda Baker would be a nice pairing with last year's second rounder.

Man, I'd like to be more optimistic but we have a lot of catching up to do personnel wise.

1 We haven't drafted particularly well of late

2 we've allowed certain players to walk that to an outsider, would have made sense to retain, consequently opening new holes that need filling.

3 we have not one player on either side of the ball that gives our opponents even moderate consternation.

On paper, we are AT LEAST a year away ....if we do everything right. 

This draft ought to change this teams direction. My pause comes to play in that I feel our FO may be drafting more to fill needs than drafts of old.

Drafting to save their jobs.

Bengals lost too much talent in FA and were already a struggling team. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if Cleveland has a better record next season than the Bengals. 

[rossihunter2]

3 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Bengals lost too much talent in FA and were already a struggling team. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if Cleveland has a better record next season than the Bengals. 

i'd like that - for some reason i prefer watching the bengals in a shambles than i do the browns

[Ravens4Real]

Steelers also got one of the luckiest breaks in terms of compensatory picks also. Somehow, they received a 3rd rounder for Beachum who I believe only played one year for the Jags.

[Dewy101]

1 hour ago, Edgar said:

Bengals - 11 picks

Browns - 12 picks

Steelers - 8 picks.

Bengals are in good position to make a run at the division, particularly if they draft well.

Possibly John Ross or Dalvin Cook at nine. Either would be a handful.

On defense I can see them getting Reddick, Barnett, or Foster.

Pittsburgh could end up with McDowell, Watt...Budda Baker would be a nice pairing with last year's second rounder.

Man, I'd like to be more optimistic but we have a lot of catching up to do personnel wise.

1 We haven't drafted particularly well of late

2 we've allowed certain players to walk that to an outsider, would have made sense to retain, consequently opening new holes that need filling.

3 we have not one player on either side of the ball that gives our opponents even moderate consternation.

On paper, we are AT LEAST a year away ....if we do everything right. 

This draft ought to change this teams direction. My pause comes to play in that I feel our FO may be drafting more to fill needs than drafts of old.

Drafting to save their jobs.

O line is the bengals biggest need. They really need a guard and center. From what I've seen from Jake Fisher and Cedric Obguehi they might need tackle help too. This line is a mess right now. They still have needs at edge rusher.