[News] Late For Work 4/25: Eight Draft Prospects Most Often Mocked To Ravens

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Best Ravens draft picks by position. Jabrill Peppers’ diluted drug test could drop him out of first round. Pass rusher may not be best value at No. 16.

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[TheRooster]

Ray Lewis was drafted in 1996 as the 26th overall pick, not 2006.

[Bruce_Almty]

Waiting all day for Thursday night.

[MrDelDante]

Ray Lewis was drafted in 1996 as the 26th overall pick, not 2006.

Remember drafting Todd Heap in 2011? Good times.

[bioLarzen]

I'm quite sure both Mike Williams and Corey Davis will be off the board at #16.

[bioLarzen]

2 minutes ago, MrDelDante said:

10 minutes ago, TheRooster said:

Ray Lewis was drafted in 1996 as the 26th overall pick, not 2006.

Remember drafting Todd Heap in 2011? Good times.

Yep - especially since it was right after drafting Jamal Lewis in 2010.

Fun times.

Edited April 25 by bioLarzen

[BiggMack91]

we draft the best offensive playmaker in the 1st and if Jabrill Peppers is there in the second we should run the card to the podium peppers would really make this D scary he can play ILB or safety and he has good instincts then efilien in the third and a CB in the 3rd there are so many options can't wait for Thursday night

[TheRooster]

Aside from laughing somewhat at the draft dates (good catch on Heap) - I actually like grabbing a bargain Reuben Foster for the ILB hole. Ozzie as well as the rest of the front office have largely stuck with best man available, not a needs type. Honestly, if Reuben slides he'll be the better version of the Vontaze Burfict everyone loved and didn't pay attention to when he fell out of the draft....

[Chuckx999]

We have helped our "D" a bit, nothing for Offense. We have two fast WR's and two slow WR's. We have a thousand TE's that scare no one. TE Howard would be the best pick for #1, then LB/Edge, O line, CB and the other choices to fill in what ever we can use. A big RB would be helpful so we don't have to pass on every 4th and one play.

[designermaryland]

They have at least 2 gaping holes on the O line with no quality starting caliber replacements. You have at least 5 adequate to above average receivers/hybrids already on the roster. Wallace, Perriman, Moore, Campanaro, Waller, Woodhead. The immediate need is O line or DB. If they draft another WR thinking this is the answer to their offensive ineptness, I would not expect any improvement in the record this year.

If they do not grab at least 1 RT early, Flacco is going to be on his back or throwing a lot of incompletions to the wasted first round picks (assuming they take a WR) all year again. I am prepared to be underwhelmed by their selection in the first round. Guessing they will do something bizarre like draft a safety or RB, when there is absolutely no need.

[bioLarzen]

28 minutes ago, TheRooster said:

Aside from laughing somewhat at the draft dates (good catch on Heap) - I actually like grabbing a bargain Reuben Foster for the ILB hole. Ozzie as well as the rest of the front office have largely stuck with best man available, not a needs type. Honestly, if Reuben slides he'll be the better version of the Vontaze Burfict everyone loved and didn't pay attention to when he fell out of the draft....

Most mocks - and especially the more trustworthy ones - all have Foster taken before #16. Of course, those are mocks drafts, ans we all know how much trust to put into them - but mocks are useful to get an image of the trends. And Foster definitely trends to go somewhere 10-15. Also, analysts tend to agree that this diluted sample thing won't affect his draft case much - if at all. So, I think we should expect Foster to join Mike Williams and Corey Davis in the category "picked before the Ravens are on the clock".

Edited April 25 by bioLarzen

[Crimson Raven]

  44 minutes ago, TheRooster said:

Ray Lewis was drafted in 1996 as the 26th overall pick, not 2006.

Remember drafting Todd Heap in 2011? Good times.

I love the fact we drafted Ed Reed in 2012. Super Bowl bound.

[axisofeeble]

"If"-If- Browns would part with 12 & 64 for Joe Flacco we should pull the trigger. Sign Kapernick and fix offense&defense through 9 draft picks, 6 WR,LB,WR,CB all before 77th pick. Even Cutler could be stop gap for a year or two.

[rmcjacket23]

They have at least 2 gaping holes on the O line with no quality starting caliber replacements. You have at least 5 adequate to above average receivers/hybrids already on the roster. Wallace, Perriman, Moore, Campanaro, Waller, Woodhead. The immediate need is O line or DB. If they draft another WR thinking this is the answer to their offensive ineptness, I would not expect any improvement in the record this year.

If they do not grab at least 1 RT early, Flacco is going to be on his back or throwing a lot of incompletions to the wasted first round picks (assuming they take a WR) all year again. I am prepared to be underwhelmed by their selection in the first round. Guessing they will do something bizarre like draft a safety or RB, when there is absolutely no need.

1. A quality RT even interior lineman certainly doesn't need to be found exclusively in round 1 or even round 2. Could very easily see somebody taken in round 3 or 4 and come in play right away and play just fine. The guy we just let walk for a boatload of cash did this exact thing.

2. I don't think anybody can honestly say that Camp, Waller, or even Moore at this point have any track record whatsoever of being above average pass catchers in the NFL. They actually have to show that on the field at some point before they can come close to being given that label.

3. We're obviously not taking a first round pick just to fill an immediate need. Almost impossible to build a contending football team that way. You pick a player who you think can be a quality player for you for a decade.

If that's a safety, so be it. Eric Weddle ain't going to be here much longer, and if you wait to draft a safety until you absolutely need one, you'll be screwed, because its not really a position you can just walk off the bus and play well in as a rookie.

We could use upgrades at every single group of positions on this team, with the exception of QB. We are NOT set at Safety, Corner, ILB, OLB, Dline, WR, TE, or RB. We could use a better player and every single one of those positions, both now and certainly in the future.

You take the best guy that's there. Fans need to stop kidding themselves thinking that we're a draft away from being a SB contender.

[steelcityraven]

1. Corey Davis- WR- Western Michigan
2. Takkarist McKinley-OLB- UCLA
3. Roderick Johnson -T FSU
3. Cam Sutton- CB- Tenn
or Jalen Myrick- CB- Minn (I like Myrick better)
4. Zach Banner- G./ T- USC
5. Ben Gedeon-ILB- MIch
6. Noah Brown- WR- Ohio State

[theduug]

  16 minutes ago, designermaryland said:

They have at least 2 gaping holes on the O line with no quality starting caliber replacements. You have at least 5 adequate to above average receivers/hybrids already on the roster. Wallace, Perriman, Moore, Campanaro, Waller, Woodhead. The immediate need is O line or DB. If they draft another WR thinking this is the answer to their offensive ineptness, I would not expect any improvement in the record this year.

If they do not grab at least 1 RT early, Flacco is going to be on his back or throwing a lot of incompletions to the wasted first round picks (assuming they take a WR) all year again. I am prepared to be underwhelmed by their selection in the first round. Guessing they will do something bizarre like draft a safety or RB, when there is absolutely no need.

1. A quality RT even interior lineman certainly doesn't need to be found exclusively in round 1 or even round 2. Could very easily see somebody taken in round 3 or 4 and come in play right away and play just fine. The guy we just let walk for a boatload of cash did this exact thing.

2. I don't think anybody can honestly say that Camp, Waller, or even Moore at this point have any track record whatsoever of being above average pass catchers in the NFL. They actually have to show that on the field at some point before they can come close to being given that label.

3. We're obviously not taking a first round pick just to fill an immediate need. Almost impossible to build a contending football team that way. You pick a player who you think can be a quality player for you for a decade.

If that's a safety, so be it. Eric Weddle ain't going to be here much longer, and if you wait to draft a safety until you absolutely need one, you'll be screwed, because its not really a position you can just walk off the bus and play well in as a rookie.

We could use upgrades at every single group of positions on this team, with the exception of QB. We are NOT set at Safety, Corner, ILB, OLB, Dline, WR, TE, or RB. We could use a better player and every single one of those positions, both now and certainly in the future.

You take the best guy that's there. Fans need to stop kidding themselves thinking that we're a draft away from being a SB contender.

spot on. every single position could use an upgrade. we will take best player available.

[whobilly]

"If"-If- Browns would part with 12 & 64 for Joe Flacco we should pull the trigger. Sign Kapernick and fix offense&defense through 9 draft picks, 6 WR,LB,WR,CB all before 77th pick. Even Cutler could be stop gap for a year or two.

Not happening. Kapernick is yesterdays news and Cutler has proven he is worthless.

[whobilly]

They have at least 2 gaping holes on the O line with no quality starting caliber replacements. You have at least 5 adequate to above average receivers/hybrids already on the roster. Wallace, Perriman, Moore, Campanaro, Waller, Woodhead. The immediate need is O line or DB. If they draft another WR thinking this is the answer to their offensive ineptness, I would not expect any improvement in the record this year.

If they do not grab at least 1 RT early, Flacco is going to be on his back or throwing a lot of incompletions to the wasted first round picks (assuming they take a WR) all year again. I am prepared to be underwhelmed by their selection in the first round. Guessing they will do something bizarre like draft a safety or RB, when there is absolutely no need.

5 adequate to above average WR's? We have ONE legitimate WR on the roster in Mike Wallace. All the rest have proven to be "Roster Fillers" at best.

[whobilly]

1. Corey Davis- WR- Western Michigan
2. Takkarist McKinley-OLB- UCLA
3. Roderick Johnson -T FSU
3. Cam Sutton- CB- Tenn
or Jalen Myrick- CB- Minn (I like Myrick better)
4. Zach Banner- G./ T- USC
5. Ben Gedeon-ILB- MIch
6. Noah Brown- WR- Ohio State

Corey Davis with our #1 pick. We need a game changer. He's it.

[Raveninwv]

I don't get why these people know they are going to be drafted, and they still piss away a chance at millions because they think they can get away with something. They have to know what they can and do put in their body with affect something!

[MadStorkSociety]

  57 minutes ago, TheRooster said:

Aside from laughing somewhat at the draft dates (good catch on Heap) - I actually like grabbing a bargain Reuben Foster for the ILB hole. Ozzie as well as the rest of the front office have largely stuck with best man available, not a needs type. Honestly, if Reuben slides he'll be the better version of the Vontaze Burfict everyone loved and didn't pay attention to when he fell out of the draft....

Most mocks - and especially the more trustworthy ones - all have Foster taken before #16. Of course, those are mocks drafts, ans we all know how much trust to put into them - but mocks are useful to get an image of the trends. And Foster definitely trends to go somewhere 10-15. Also, analysts tend to agree that this diluted sample thing won't affect his draft case much - if at all. So, I think we should expect Foster to join Mike Williams and Corey Davis in the category "picked before the Ravens are on the clock".

Always trying to spoil our fun with reality.

[steelcityraven]

  26 minutes ago, designermaryland said:

They have at least 2 gaping holes on the O line with no quality starting caliber replacements. You have at least 5 adequate to above average receivers/hybrids already on the roster. Wallace, Perriman, Moore, Campanaro, Waller, Woodhead. The immediate need is O line or DB. If they draft another WR thinking this is the answer to their offensive ineptness, I would not expect any improvement in the record this year.

If they do not grab at least 1 RT early, Flacco is going to be on his back or throwing a lot of incompletions to the wasted first round picks (assuming they take a WR) all year again. I am prepared to be underwhelmed by their selection in the first round. Guessing they will do something bizarre like draft a safety or RB, when there is absolutely no need.

1. A quality RT even interior lineman certainly doesn't need to be found exclusively in round 1 or even round 2. Could very easily see somebody taken in round 3 or 4 and come in play right away and play just fine. The guy we just let walk for a boatload of cash did this exact thing.

2. I don't think anybody can honestly say that Camp, Waller, or even Moore at this point have any track record whatsoever of being above average pass catchers in the NFL. They actually have to show that on the field at some point before they can come close to being given that label.

3. We're obviously not taking a first round pick just to fill an immediate need. Almost impossible to build a contending football team that way. You pick a player who you think can be a quality player for you for a decade.

If that's a safety, so be it. Eric Weddle ain't going to be here much longer, and if you wait to draft a safety until you absolutely need one, you'll be screwed, because its not really a position you can just walk off the bus and play well in as a rookie.

We could use upgrades at every single group of positions on this team, with the exception of QB. We are NOT set at Safety, Corner, ILB, OLB, Dline, WR, TE, or RB. We could use a better player and every single one of those positions, both now and certainly in the future.

You take the best guy that's there. Fans need to stop kidding themselves thinking that we're a draft away from being a SB contender.

I agree that you don't draft for current needs (at least shouldn't make a habit out of that) but instead you draft for the future!

I also agree that we are not drafting a QB this year.

I think that there are several positions that we are stocked well at and will not be looking to fill an immediate need or a future need with in this draft.

I think QB, TE, NT, DT are some of those positions

I believe that looking ahead (not this year) that OLB is our most glaring need but I can make an argument that we are not much better off at WR, OL or CB

I think CB and S at least have their fill right now... and as a result we will probably not look to make that draft pick in the first round (unless someone at that positions just blows you away and they fall to you)

i.e. if a Jumal Adams or Peppers somehow falls to us... we may feel that they are that special of a player that you go there anyways.

The problem with this draft is... this:
Do we feel that Peppers is more special at S then say Corey Davis is at WR or more special then Reuben Foster is at ILB or McKinley, Reddick, Ramczyk, Dalvin Cook, Lattimnore, Sid Jones, etc.

So then if you feel that one is not more special at their position but several can be super stars then you have to look at your team and say I have a future star either place... which does the team need more.

I do think there is enough talent in this draft that we simply may not be very clear on the BPA model and we may need to adapt and go with BPA + need = our next pick (believing that several picks could stars for years to come and someone who we could build around! (Not a bad problem to have BTW)

Thursday can get here soon enough! (and just for the record- I still think we trade back)

[sami]

"If"-If- Browns would part with 12 & 64 for Joe Flacco we should pull the trigger. Sign Kapernick and fix offense&defense through 9 draft picks, 6 WR,LB,WR,CB all before 77th pick. Even Cutler could be stop gap for a year or two.

April fools has past and youre the only fool at last.

[steelcityraven]

I'm quite sure both Mike Williams and Corey Davis will be off the board at #16.

We should have a ton of options at #16! Realistically I really do believe we will trade back as a result (unless there is a specific player that we are targeting and they fall to us i.e. Corey Davis, Mike Williams, Reuben Foster, Hasson Reddick, etc)

I just think there are some many quality players that trading back to the end of rd 1 is realistic for a guy like Ozzie who wants to build through the draft.

[steelcityraven]

  19 minutes ago, axisofeeble said:

"If"-If- Browns would part with 12 & 64 for Joe Flacco we should pull the trigger. Sign Kapernick and fix offense&defense through 9 draft picks, 6 WR,LB,WR,CB all before 77th pick. Even Cutler could be stop gap for a year or two.

Not happening. Kapernick is yesterdays news and Cutler has proven he is worthless.

Kappernick got ran out of SF and Cutler got ran out of Chicago. They are clearly not franchise QBs why would we want to give up our franchise QBs for players who are not?

And why would we want to give them up to a team who we play 2x per year?

Finally who was the last team without a franchise QB to win a super bowl.... Probably the Ravens with Trent Dilfer... but the game has changed quite a bit since then and has become a passing league. Hard to win without a franchise QB.... joe is a franchise QB who has proven that we can win the Lombardi trophy with him!

[TheRavengers]

I'd be quite happy with either a WR or good pass rusher for our first pick, at this point.

[Bat-mite]

Running backs and receivers are great, but nothing matters if we don't have a strong OL. I would love to know what the plan is to keep Flacco protected. Otherwise, kiss this season good-bye.

[respecttheRaven]

53 minutes ago, axisofeeble said:

"If"-If- Browns would part with 12 & 64 for Joe Flacco we should pull the trigger. Sign Kapernick and fix offense&defense through 9 draft picks, 6 WR,LB,WR,CB all before 77th pick. Even Cutler could be stop gap for a year or two.

[billiejean]

"If"-If- Browns would part with 12 & 64 for Joe Flacco we should pull the trigger. Sign Kapernick and fix offense&defense through 9 draft picks, 6 WR,LB,WR,CB all before 77th pick. Even Cutler could be stop gap for a year or two.

Even if it was possible continue pose this question ever few days doesn't make it any more likely to happen. There isn't even a small chance that it could happen.

[billiejean]

1. Corey Davis- WR- Western Michigan
2. Takkarist McKinley-OLB- UCLA
3. Roderick Johnson -T FSU
3. Cam Sutton- CB- Tenn
or Jalen Myrick- CB- Minn (I like Myrick better)
4. Zach Banner- G./ T- USC
5. Ben Gedeon-ILB- MIch
6. Noah Brown- WR- Ohio State

The only guy that I am not high on here is Z Banner. That guys is just never going to make it in this league. I don't mind everyone else but some of them are going to be gone before the round that you have us taking them.