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Four important draft clues from Mike Mayock, including John Ross being removed from draft boards. Is Ravens' dream draft scenario really a dream? Potential trade-back partners for Baltimore.

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As for "dream draft scenarios": I do hope our first round pick is going to be an O-lineman - preferably a RT - as this is IMHO our need position which we will likely only be able to effectively address in the first round, as all the probably starting caliber talent will be off the board by the tim,e Ozzie is on the clock in the second round, and the free agent mareket doesn't look like it's gonna spit out the solution for us either. Yep, we went for an offensive tackle the last time too - but then what? If we can really use a guy again and there is a guy - or there are guys - that could do the job, why not? So, I have no problem with getting one of the top O-linemen in the first round being labeled as a "dream scenario".

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As for "dream draft scenarios": I do hope our first round pick is going to be an O-lineman - preferably a RT - as this is IMHO our need position which we will likely only be able to effectively address in the first round, as all the probably starting caliber talent will be off the board by the tim,e Ozzie is on the clock in the second round, and the free agent mareket doesn't look like it's gonna spit out the solution for us either. Yep, we went for an offensive tackle the last time too - but then what? If we can really use a guy again and there is a guy - or there are guys - that could do the job, why not? So, I have no problem with getting one of the top O-linemen in the first round being labeled as a "dream scenario".

As usual, all depends on how we rate those players. By all accounts its a pretty weak OL class, so the FO may easily be looking at a handful of these first round guys and questioning whether they're significantly better than a 3rd or 4th rounder we could choose instead. If they don't think they are, I'm sure they'll steer clear of them in the first all together.

My money is on WR or a defensive player, namely an edge player.

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got to love the smoke screens we could go in any direction can't wait 3 more days lets do ravens nation

P.S Go Wizards

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3 days left.. I cant wait.

3 days remaining dream draft
Rnd 1- Barnett DE/OLBrs
Rnd 2- Reuben Foster ilbr
Rnd 3- Smith Schuster WR, CB Tankersely
Rnd 4-Dawkins OL
Rnd 5- Jalen Myrick CB
Rnd 6- Zach Banner OL

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It's all guess work, but I could see:
Trade back into middle 20's for extra 3rd round pick; select best available edge rusher. (this draft is stocked with high quality at the position.)
WR with 2nd rounder.(Ju Ju Smith?)
Address OL(unless they feel its a reach) and CB/ILB(deep draft for both positions) with two of the 3 third rounders, trade remaining 3rd for extra picks later in the draft.(we know the FO would love to have more picks in this draft, so I could see this easily happening.)
Can't wait til Thursday! Go Ravens!!!

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25 minutes ago, ravens4life86 said:

3 days left.. I cant wait.

3 days remaining dream draft
Rnd 1- Barnett DE/OLBrs
Rnd 2- Reuben Foster ilbr
Rnd 3- Smith Schuster WR, CB Tankersely
Rnd 4-Dawkins OL
Rnd 5- Jalen Myrick CB
Rnd 6- Zach Banner OL

If Foster does fall it most certainly won't be to 47. 

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3 days left.. I cant wait.

3 days remaining dream draft
Rnd 1- Barnett DE/OLBrs
Rnd 2- Reuben Foster ilbr
Rnd 3- Smith Schuster WR, CB Tankersely
Rnd 4-Dawkins OL
Rnd 5- Jalen Myrick CB
Rnd 6- Zach Banner OL

Ain't gonna happen. From round 2 onwards think a round earlier on every player cited. Foster is going in round 1 probably before we pick and Schuster and Tankersley going in round 2 and Dawkins will be gone by round 3.

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Three 3rd rounder would be nice. Trading back is tempting; A trade back could still look something like this.

1. Jabrill Peppers-S/LB- MICH
2. Tim Williams- OLB- Bamma
3. Jalen Myrick- CB- Minn
3. Will Holden- T- Vandy
3. Ju Ju-Smith-Schuster- WR- USC
4. Ethan Pocic- C- LSU
5. Noah Brown- WR- Ohio State
6. Chase Allen- ILB- Southern Illinois

Or
1. Dalvin Cook- RB- FSU
2. Reuben Foster- ILB- Bamma
3. Cooper Kupp-WR-Eastern Washington
3. Nicco Siragusa- G- SDST
3. Cam Sutton- CB- Tenn
4. Zach Banner - G/T- USC
5. Ejuan Price- OLB- Pitt
6. Noah Brown- WR- Ohio State

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3 days left.. I cant wait.

3 days remaining dream draft
Rnd 1- Barnett DE/OLBrs
Rnd 2- Reuben Foster ilbr
Rnd 3- Smith Schuster WR, CB Tankersely
Rnd 4-Dawkins OL
Rnd 5- Jalen Myrick CB
Rnd 6- Zach Banner OL

It's gonna stay a dream. Barnett is possible, and its possible to end up with a cpl of the guys you mention, but.....

Foster isnt dropping much if at all, and especially not to the 2nd round. Even if he did (he wont) Hue Jackson wouldnt let him get past 33. And theres probably 13 other teams that wouldnt either.

JuJu might be around 3rd and i bet Tankersley will, but Juju could be gone 2nd and Tank sucks.

Dawkins is going 2nd round. We might not even have a shot at 47. Though id be very happy with him there.

Myrick and Banner might be ok.

So, choose one of Barnett/Foster.... though my guess is we'll be lucky to have even 1 of them fall to us. Both might be long gone.

And you prob have to pick one of JuJu or Dawkins. Though there is an outside chance JuJu falls to the 3rd so its prob ok to project that in a dream scenario.

And if Tank's your dream in the 3rd - get a new dream. Prob would say the same for Myrick and Banner - but to each their own.

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1 hour ago, ravens4life86 said:

3 days left.. I cant wait.

3 days remaining dream draft
Rnd 1- Barnett DE/OLBrs
Rnd 2- Reuben Foster ilbr
Rnd 3- Smith Schuster WR, CB Tankersely
Rnd 4-Dawkins OL
Rnd 5- Jalen Myrick CB
Rnd 6- Zach Banner OL

Barring any incidents or new revelations between now and Thurs, he's NOT falling out of the 1st round. 

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The OL might make for a boring pick but if we don't wind up with an OL that can give Joe time to throw, give our running backs holes and keep Joe from getting injured it will be another tough year for our Ravens.

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  1 hour ago, ravens4life86 said:

3 days left.. I cant wait.

3 days remaining dream draft
Rnd 1- Barnett DE/OLBrs
Rnd 2- Reuben Foster ilbr
Rnd 3- Smith Schuster WR, CB Tankersely
Rnd 4-Dawkins OL
Rnd 5- Jalen Myrick CB
Rnd 6- Zach Banner OL

Barring any incidents or new revelations between now and Thurs, he's NOT falling out of the 1st round. 

All speculation at this point obviously, but I can tell you there's numerous analysts I've seen that fully expect him to fall into the 2nd, though still probably not far enough for him to be in the mid 40s when we pick.

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If we don't trade back

1. Corey Davis- WR- Western Mich
2. Tim Williams - OLB- Bamma
3. Ju Ju Smith -WR- Schuster
3. Jalen Myrick-CB- Minn
or Cam Sutton- CB- Tenn
4. Ethan Pocic- C- LSU
5. Zach Banner- C/T USC
6. Ben Gedeon- ILB- Mich

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I think now drafting Derek Barnett is the safest choice now since these receivers have injury concerns and we can't afford it to be another Perriman in their rookie season. If healthy, the best players are Corey Davis and Mike Williams but the safest choice is Derek Barnett.

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3 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

As usual, all depends on how we rate those players. By all accounts its a pretty weak OL class, so the FO may easily be looking at a handful of these first round guys and questioning whether they're significantly better than a 3rd or 4th rounder we could choose instead. If they don't think they are, I'm sure they'll steer clear of them in the first all together.

My money is on WR or a defensive player, namely an edge player.

But that leaves the O-line's issues un addressed. And they MUST BE addressed if we are hoping for any kind of offensive production. And the free agent market for O-linemen may even be worse than ther rookie crop... and, though there's always a chance of in-house replacements, I for one do not trust either of the Urschel/Jensen/Wesley/Hurst quartet... I haven't seen anything of them to baye any such hope on...

So, I would still vote for an O-lineman.

 

That said, I still have the suspicion that Ozie finds a trade partner to trade down 6-8 spots, and pick up Jabrill Peppers there. The Harbaugh-pipeline have provided the evaluators and decision makers with every last bit of information on him, and we all know how Ozzie and Harbaugh love versatility. And Peppers may be  the single most versatile guy in this year's draft. He can be a S, a CB, a LB... Many analysts say he's a kind of "jack of all trades, master of none" typs of deal - still I would name him if I absolutely had to name a polayedr I think Ozzie will pick on Thursday.

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  3 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

As usual, all depends on how we rate those players. By all accounts its a pretty weak OL class, so the FO may easily be looking at a handful of these first round guys and questioning whether they're significantly better than a 3rd or 4th rounder we could choose instead. If they don't think they are, I'm sure they'll steer clear of them in the first all together.

My money is on WR or a defensive player, namely an edge player.

But that leaves the O-line's issues un addressed. And they MUST BE addressed if we are hoping for any kind of offensive production. And the free agent market for O-linemen may even be worse than ther rookie crop... and, though there's always a chance of in-house replacements, I for one do not trust either of the Urschel/Jensen/Wesley/Hurst quartet... I haven't seen anything of them to baye any such hope on...

So, I would still vote for an O-lineman.

 

That said, I still have the suspicion that Ozie finds a trade partner to trade down 6-8 spots, and pick up Jabrill Peppers there. The Harbaugh-pipeline have provided the evaluators and decision makers with every last bit of information on him, and we all know how Ozzie and Harbaugh love versatility. And Peppers may be  the single most versatile guy in this year's draft. He can be a S, a CB, a LB... Many analysts say he's a kind of "jack of all trades, master of none" typs of deal - still I would name him if I absolutely had to name a polayedr I think Ozzie will pick on Thursday.

I also disagree on picking OL in the first round - this year is just not a great class. Definitely a couple of later round picks should go to a guard/center and a right tackle - it's too much to hope they score bug with another R Wagner type pick, but that's what I'd like to see them try.

Pass rush and receiver are bigger needs, I think.

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48 minutes ago, steelcityraven said:

If we don't trade back

1. Corey Davis- WR- Western Mich
2. Tim Williams - OLB- Bamma
3. Ju Ju Smith -WR- Schuster
3. Jalen Myrick-CB- Minn
or Cam Sutton- CB- Tenn
4. Ethan Pocic- C- LSU
5. Zach Banner- C/T USC
6. Ben Gedeon- ILB- Mich

That would be a reasonabl draft - but I'm afraid Schuster at #74 and Pocic in the fourth round may be too optimistic.

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  1 hour ago, steelcityraven said:

If we don't trade back

1. Corey Davis- WR- Western Mich
2. Tim Williams - OLB- Bamma
3. Ju Ju Smith -WR- Schuster
3. Jalen Myrick-CB- Minn
or Cam Sutton- CB- Tenn
4. Ethan Pocic- C- LSU
5. Zach Banner- C/T USC
6. Ben Gedeon- ILB- Mich

That would be a reasonabl draft - but I'm afraid Schuster at #74 and Pocic in the fourth round may be too optimistic.

I don't think Pocic in the 4th is that big of a strech

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I hope we get Corey Davis in the first we need a number one Wideout who can dominate a game

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1 hour ago, steelcityraven said:

If we don't trade back

1. Corey Davis- WR- Western Mich
2. Tim Williams - OLB- Bamma
3. Ju Ju Smith -WR- Schuster
3. Jalen Myrick-CB- Minn
or Cam Sutton- CB- Tenn
4. Ethan Pocic- C- LSU
5. Zach Banner- C/T USC
6. Ben Gedeon- ILB- Mich

I'm all in on these first 3 picks (don't know a lot about the rest, Pocic aside). Not sure we'd go with 2 WR's with the first 2 picks but stranger things have happened.

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2 hours ago, steelcityraven said:

Three 3rd rounder would be nice. Trading back is tempting; A trade back could still look something like this.

1. Jabrill Peppers-S/LB- MICH
2. Tim Williams- OLB- Bamma
3. Jalen Myrick- CB- Minn
3. Will Holden- T- Vandy
3. Ju Ju-Smith-Schuster- WR- USC
4. Ethan Pocic- C- LSU
5. Noah Brown- WR- Ohio State
6. Chase Allen- ILB- Southern Illinois

Or
1. Dalvin Cook- RB- FSU
2. Reuben Foster- ILB- Bamma
3. Cooper Kupp-WR-Eastern Washington
3. Nicco Siragusa- G- SDST
3. Cam Sutton- CB- Tenn
4. Zach Banner - G/T- USC
5. Ejuan Price- OLB- Pitt
6. Noah Brown- WR- Ohio State

just reported that he had a diluted urine sample.  So basically he failed his drug test, what impact it'll have nobody knows!!

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1 hour ago, bioLarzen said:

But that leaves the O-line's issues un addressed. And they MUST BE addressed if we are hoping for any kind of offensive production. And the free agent market for O-linemen may even be worse than ther rookie crop... and, though there's always a chance of in-house replacements, I for one do not trust either of the Urschel/Jensen/Wesley/Hurst quartet... I haven't seen anything of them to baye any such hope on...

So, I would still vote for an O-lineman.

 

That said, I still have the suspicion that Ozie finds a trade partner to trade down 6-8 spots, and pick up Jabrill Peppers there. The Harbaugh-pipeline have provided the evaluators and decision makers with every last bit of information on him, and we all know how Ozzie and Harbaugh love versatility. And Peppers may be  the single most versatile guy in this year's draft. He can be a S, a CB, a LB... Many analysts say he's a kind of "jack of all trades, master of none" typs of deal - still I would name him if I absolutely had to name a polayedr I think Ozzie will pick on Thursday.

1. It only leaves the Oline as unaddressed after the first round. There's zero chance we don't take 1 Olineman in the entire draft, and my money is on us taking one in the first four rounds.

Given that we're likely looking specifically for a Guard or RT, you can easily find a starter in that spot on day 2 or even day 3 in most drafts, and I think this one is no different.

My point is that you don't have to take one in round 1 just because the class is weak.

2. Would also point out that there are guys on the roster that the FO likes who they at least publicly think can fill those roles. We aren't likely to get two starting Olineman out of this draft, meaning at least one of our starters are likely coming from an existing roster player, or a FA. 

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Well, one of the things that had Davis sliding as far as 16 is concerns around his ankle ... he's clearly trying to allay any fears and, if he does so, may mean he'll be gone before we're on the clock. Given that Ross (who I don't think we have any interest in) is sliding doesn't help. 

I'm steadily convincing myself that we'll not be nailing either Williams or Davis and we'll be going O line, either by standing pat if there is a guy we really value above the rest, or trading back if we have 2 or 3 guys that we feel are comparable in that position group. 

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  4 hours ago, steelcityraven said:

Three 3rd rounder would be nice. Trading back is tempting; A trade back could still look something like this.

1. Jabrill Peppers-S/LB- MICH
2. Tim Williams- OLB- Bamma
3. Jalen Myrick- CB- Minn
3. Will Holden- T- Vandy
3. Ju Ju-Smith-Schuster- WR- USC
4. Ethan Pocic- C- LSU
5. Noah Brown- WR- Ohio State
6. Chase Allen- ILB- Southern Illinois

Or
1. Dalvin Cook- RB- FSU
2. Reuben Foster- ILB- Bamma
3. Cooper Kupp-WR-Eastern Washington
3. Nicco Siragusa- G- SDST
3. Cam Sutton- CB- Tenn
4. Zach Banner - G/T- USC
5. Ejuan Price- OLB- Pitt
6. Noah Brown- WR- Ohio State

just reported that he had a diluted urine sample.  So basically he failed his drug test, what impact it'll have nobody knows!!

I saw that too and I am not sure what that means either. A diluted sample clearly does not carry the same stigma as a failed sample. We may all know it or believe it to be the same but it is a blurred line.

I know this... I really don't want to pass on Peppers and have the Sqeelers pick him up a few picks later.

I can see them grabbing him and he is so versatile he can add depth at S for us but more importantly he can play ILB and cover these freak TE's in the league now (something that CJ struggles with a little)

Plus the thought of CJ and Peppers playing beside each other with their athleticism and skill sets... that should be a scary defense who can cover side line to side line and who can offer an array of blitz packages and coverage's that is rare even in the NFL

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4 minutes ago, steelcityraven said:

I saw that too and I am not sure what that means either. A diluted sample clearly does not carry the same stigma as a failed sample. We may all know it or believe it to be the same but it is a blurred line.

I know this... I really don't want to pass on Peppers and have the Sqeelers pick him up a few picks later.

I can see them grabbing him and he is so versatile he can add depth at S for us but more importantly he can play ILB and cover these freak TE's in the league now (something that CJ struggles with a little)

Plus the thought of CJ and Peppers playing beside each other with their athleticism and skill sets... that should be a scary defense who can cover side line to side line and who can offer an array of blitz packages and coverage's that is rare even in the NFL

Newly signed Tony Jefferson says hello.  

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  2 hours ago, steelcityraven said:

If we don't trade back

1. Corey Davis- WR- Western Mich
2. Tim Williams - OLB- Bamma
3. Ju Ju Smith -WR- Schuster
3. Jalen Myrick-CB- Minn
or Cam Sutton- CB- Tenn
4. Ethan Pocic- C- LSU
5. Zach Banner- C/T USC
6. Ben Gedeon- ILB- Mich

I'm all in on these first 3 picks (don't know a lot about the rest, Pocic aside). Not sure we'd go with 2 WR's with the first 2 picks but stranger things have happened.

I agree if we go Corey Davis in round 1... I believe that we are more likely to go after Will Holdin -T- Vandy or a Nicco Siragusa -G- or some other big OL in round 3 (which would change the later round picks)

But I did add two WRs bc we haven't had great weapons on offense and this could stock the warehouse.

1. Mike Wallace
2. Perriman
3. Chris Moore
4. Corey Davis
5. Ju Ju
6. Campanaro

RBs
1. Woodhead
2. West
3. Dixon

TEs
1. Watson
2. Pitta
3. Gilmore
4. Maxx
5. Waller

That is more offensive weapons than I have ever seen in BMORE... and may set us up for a long time to come on Offense.

I think you are right... don't see us going after two WRs that soon but if both are there.... We can add OL depth in the later rounds.
(especially if we really believe that Jensen or Urschel can handle the load)
Then we can draft a Pocic or a Banner in the later rounds (maybe even a Siragusa) and Slide Alex Lewis out to Wagners spot.

IDK.... obviously I am simply excited with the possibilities that I see in this draft... this is the most excited that I have been going into a draft in a long time.

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  2 hours ago, bioLarzen said:
  2 hours ago, steelcityraven said:

If we don't trade back

1. Corey Davis- WR- Western Mich
2. Tim Williams - OLB- Bamma
3. Ju Ju Smith -WR- Schuster
3. Jalen Myrick-CB- Minn
or Cam Sutton- CB- Tenn
4. Ethan Pocic- C- LSU
5. Zach Banner- C/T USC
6. Ben Gedeon- ILB- Mich

That would be a reasonabl draft - but I'm afraid Schuster at #74 and Pocic in the fourth round may be too optimistic.

I don't think Pocic in the 4th is that big of a strech

A lot of people are calling for Schuster early (and I think you are probably right) but most of the pundits are calling for him in the 3rd and even 4th round????

Wonder if there is something about him that we are not aware of????

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