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Lost in Translation's Final Mock Before the Draft (Feat Memes, and Jake Butt)

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That’s right guys. I’m doing a full not one, but TWO full rounds. Why? Because screw these forums for closing. That’s why.

 

Rules.

There will be no trades (for any other teams except us)

I will not intentionally sabotage any teams

The Ravens must draft Jake Butt

If you want me to justify something I will

Round 1

Pick

1. Cleveland Browns-Myles Garrett, OLB

2. San Francisco 49ers- Leonard Fournette, RB

3. Chicago Bears- Marshon Lattimore CB

4. Jacksonville Jaguars- Solomon Thomas, DE

5. Tennessee Titans- Jonathan Allen, DE

6. New York Jets- Jamal Adams, S

7. Los Angeles Chargers-Malik Hooker, S

8. Carolina Panthers-Christian McCaffrey, RB

9. Cincinnati Bengals-Reuben Foster, ILB

10. Buffalo Bills-Mike Williams WR(will he set the Mike Williams standard?)

11. New Orleans Saints-Marlon Humphrey, CB

12. Cleveland Browns- Deshaun Watson, QB

13. Arizona Cardinals- Corey Davis, WR

14. Philadelphia Eagles- Gareon Conley, CB

15. Indianapolis Colts-Haason Reddick, LB

16. Tennessee Titans- John Ross(TRADE)

17. Washington Redskins- Dalvin Cook, RB

18. Baltimore Ravens- Forrest Lamp, OG(TRADE)

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Cam Robinson, OT

20. Denver Broncos- Derek Barnett, Edge

21. Detroit Lions- David Njoku, TE

22. Miami Dolphins- Jarrad Davis, ILB

23. New York Giants-OJ Howard, TE

24. Oakland Raiders- Malik McDowell, DL

25. Houston Texans- Ryan Ramczyk, OT

26. Seattle Seahawks- Kevin King, CB

27. Kansas City Chiefs-Patrick Mahomes, QB

28. Dallas Cowboys-Quincy Wilson, CB

29. Green Bay Packers- Tre’Davious White, CB

30. Pittsburgh Steelers- Jabril Peppers, S

31. Atlanta Falcons-Charles Harris, DE(maybe he can help them hold a 25 point lead?)

32. New Orleans Saints from New England Patriots-Zach Cunningham, ILB

 

Round 2

Pick (overall)

1 (33). Cleveland Browns- JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR

2 (34). San Francisco 49ers- Davis Webb, QB

3 (35). Jacksonville Jaguars- Alvin Kamara, RB

4 (36). Chicago Bears-Buddah Baker, SS

5 (37). Los Angeles Rams-Zay Jones, WR

6 (38). Los Angeles Chargers-Dan Feeney, OG

7 (39). New York Jets-Adoree’ Jackson, CB

8 (40). Carolina Panthers-Choidobe Awuzie, CB

9 (41). Cincinnati Bengals- Taco Charlton, DE

10 (42). New Orleans Saints-Jordan Willis, DE

11 (43). Philadelphia Eagles- Joe Mixon, RB

12 (44). Buffalo Bills- Sidney Jones, CB

13 (45). Arizona Cardinals-DeShone Kizer, QB

14 (46). Indianapolis Colts-Evan Engram, TE

15 (47). Baltimore Ravens- Takkarist Mckinley, Edge

16 (48). Minnesota Vikings-Derek Rivers, Edge

17 (49). Washington Redskins-Obi Melifonwu, CB

18 (50). Tampa Bay Buccaneers-D’Onta Foreman, RB

19 (51). Denver Broncos-Dion Dawkins, OT

20 (52). Cleveland Browns from Tennessee Titans-Fabian Moreau, CB

21 (53). Detroit Lions-Rasul Douglas, CB

22 (54). Miami Dolphins- Bucky Hodges, TE

23 (55). New York Giants-Taylor Moton, OT

24 (56). Oakland Raiders- Cooper Kupp, WR

25 (57). Houston Texans-Justin Evans, S

26 (58). Seattle Seahawks-Montravius Adams, DT

27 (59). Kansas City Chiefs-Jalen Tabor, CB

28 (60). Dallas Cowboys- Tim Williams, Edge

29 (61). Green Bay Packers-Ryan Anderson, Edge

30 (62). Pittsburgh Steelers-Chris Godwin, WR

31 (63). Atlanta Falcons-David Sharpe, OT

32 (64). Carolina Panthers from New England Patriots- Carl Lawson, Edge









 

So let’s get into the skinny

 

Round One: Forrest Lamp, OG

 

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Yes. I have the Titans trading up a few spots. They think that we are going to take their target(John Ross) and we call them on their bluff, and get their second third rounder in the back-end of the third round. Leaving us with three third rounders. A good trade, because we end up with our guy anyway.

 

You all know my thoughts on Lamp. He’s an Ozzie Newsome pick. Blue collar, works hard, smart. He could even step in at center, which could potentially give us an elite interior as soon as this year. Lamp is a guy I love.

 

Other picks we could make.


Derek Barnett- My favorite prospect for us. But I have a feeling that we are going offensive line.

 

Corey Davis- if he falls here he might be BPA by default.

 

Mike Williams- see above

 

Cam Robinson-.... OZZIE I SWEAR TO GOD.


 

Round Two: Takkarist Mckinley, Edge

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Takk is a freak athlete, who might fall because he’s a bit of a one year wonder. Remember how we all hated the Correa pick because a majority of his sacks were effort sacks? Yeah, Mckinley’s work ethic on the field might surpass that entirely. And has significantly better pass rush ability, with a multitude of moves to work with. He gives us a guy who puts in a ton of effort, and with that work ethic, combined with good hand usage, I think that he could become a damn good edge rusher for us at the pro level.... But wait. There’s more.

 

Other options

Sydney Jones- Would love him here

Either Bama edge rusher- Ozzie... I’d be okay with these two.

Fabian Moreau- Damn good cover corner with room to grow

Jake Butt-  A round earlier than he’s projected to go? Why not? Speaking of....

 

Round Three: Jake Butt, TE

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Are you surprised? If you were congrats. You must be the dumbest person alive.... Or Winchester. “Jake Butt doesn’t have that fast twitch muscle. Fat Butt(LOL, could you imagine?) and Fat Maxx!" I love Maxx going forward as the #1. I don’t trust Pitta as much, Boyle is moving to FB, and Crockett Gillmore got hurt as I was typing this. Anyway, Kim Kardashian(get it?) here is a classic catch and turn TE who’s got very reliable hands, is a good blocker, and a good route runner.

 

I like Jake Butt and I cannot lie. You other posters can’t deny...

 

Round Three: Shaquille Griffin, CB,

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Sorry rmw. I’m taking a page from your book and I wrote this on April 5th. Why did you hack my google doc? Smh

 

Anyway. Griffin does a lot of things well, and is a jack of all trades, master of none. He’s not gonna be a star, but he’d be great depth..

 

and yes, that is a picture of Jake Butt beating him. I couldn't resist


 

Round Three: Isaiah Ford, WR

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Ford gets a bad rap. The damn combine utterly ruined him and he doesn’t deserve it. He seems like he could be a much better version of Chris Moore. Which is a useful commodity as Moore isn’t a bad route runner. Just be happy that people put too much stock in the combine and the 40. I think he could be a day one contributer on the offense. Thank you Titans

 

Round Four: Chase Roullier, C

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SCREW YOU RMW... You had to bring light to a player I’ve had under the radar. I made this mock weeks ago and frankly, you have to come and ruin my fun!

Let’s talk about a mauler. Remember how I said Lamp could play center? Yeah.. About that. I think what we do is sign Mangold anyway, and then put Lamp at G. Which is the right move. Roullier is an absolute mauler, and it would do us some good to give a guy like him a year to develop. He won’t contribute immediately, but I think he could be a franchise center going forward. This would also force the coaching staff to kick Lewis out to RT, which I think he’d fare nicely anyway.

 

Round Five: Tedric Thompson, S

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“But Lost, we’ve invested a lot at the safety position already. Why are we drafting one”.

 

Because screw you, that’s why. That’s why. And this is a total homer pick. But I really like Thompson’s game. With Webb and Weddle as his teachers he could become a very valuable rotational piece going forward, or he could become the guy who succeeds them in a few years. He has good instincts in coverage, and frankly this would be a best player available pick.

Round Six: Jahad Thomas, RB/WR

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“But Lost, We have pressing needs at DT, and ILB.”

Screw that. Past 2 seasons we’ve draft Carl Davis, Bronson Kaufausi, Willie Henry, and have picked up Michael Pierce in UDFA. We’re fine there. And we always seem to find a good #2 ILB whether it’d be Jameel McClain, or Darnell Ellerbe, or finding Daryl Smith in FA. And I like Correa at ILB.

Meet, Jahad Thomas. The homeless man’s version of Christian McCaffery. He has a rare cutting ability and can make video game moves. He can also fill in kick returns, play slot WR, and be a good third down back for when Danny Woodhead gets injured. He’s a guy I think could have a use on the offense, and frankly we could use that.

 

Oh, and s/o to @-Truth- for pointing me in the direction of Thomas


 

And that my friends(and @rmw10 I did not copy you I swear) is my final mock before the draft. Coming a little ahead of schedule? Oh hell yes. I’m busy. Hope y’all liked it. If not, either way screw you.


 

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So..... in your rules you stated "no trades" and then proceeded to trade our 1st pick...

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19 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

So..... in your rules you stated "no trades" and then proceeded to trade our 1st pick...

🤔

Lol. I thought I deleted tha...

 

I mean screw you, this is my mock and I will do what I want :P

 

I wrote this mock weeks ago. Sue me.

I'm pretty sure @rmw10 is going to anyway. 

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I have a feeling it's Offensive line as well. But will it be Lamp or Robinson? 

Ozzie likely will be wearing his crimson shirt under his blazer on draft night and will smile as he picks Robinson😂 

TBH, I don't see anyway the Broncos could afford to not go Out line, even with Barnett there. 

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I like it except for the fact that I think Steve would fire Ozzie on the spot if he passed on Barnett. 

Also just wondering, where did you see hand usage from takk? I don't like him as a first rounder but at 47 he would be a massive steal, but one thing I don't see from takk is hand usage or a multitude of moves. His sacks mostly come from bullrushing until he creates space and then just slipping inside. His biggest weakness is his inability to disengage, he just tangles up with blockers and latches on and does nothing to break free

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I might hurt someone if we trade back to get another 3rd (awesome, yay!) and somehow Barnett's is still on the board and we don't take him (What the heck? OZ!!!!).

Thats the things my dreams are made of... and not that I dislike Lamp or would hate the pick -- I just think Barnett is a Top 5-10 player in this draft... and happen to think Ozzie&Co feel the same way.

The fact that he's literally like the only 1st round prospect at a position of need thats widely speculated to be one of the higher prospects that could be available (met w/ Mike Williams, Corey Davis, John Ross, Foster, Takk, Taco, Cam Robinson, etc...) and we havent had a reported even conversation with him tells me that either a) they're supremely confident he wont be available, or B ) as a team that relies almost exclusively on the tape that they're so confident in their evaluation of him and his high placement on the board that theyve already decided its a no brainer if hes there to take him. I think B is the case.

So, with that in mind... to magically acquire another Day 2 pick and pass up my fav prospect -- ill revolt.... for like a day or 2. and re-revolt when hes Defensive Rookie of the Year with double digit sacks.

 

But enough about me. Back to Jake's Butt.

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Oh and welcome to the Jahad Thomas bandwagon.

Live in the Philly area and most of my close friends graduated from Temple.... been watching him tear teams up for a couple years; even against some top teams like Clemson, Notre Dame and Penn State. 

Posted about him a month ago in the RB thread. He wont be a 3 down back obviously, because he'll go down with any substantial contact.... but hitting him isnt a given proposition. He possesses great vision and patience.... and then can change direction in the blink of an eye. And hes quicker than he is fast. But he's a tough dude and a willing and capable blocker. Could be a nice 3rd down option with flexibility to move into the slot.

And I trust Temple players. Matt Ruhle built that program with undersized, overlooked prospects and rejects. He runs a very professional organization with emphasis on getting an education so i trust his kids to be clean in the NFL. And he gets those boys hitting day 1 of spring ball. They open almost every practice session with full contact and tackling drills in pads. Very tough guys that love contact, have high character, and are very used to having to overcome physical limitations to stand out. The past 2 years theyve knocked off or taken to the limits some real heavy hitter programs.

6th round, or more likely a priority FA... but id be happy with any of the Temple guys - Reddick, Dawkins, Hairston and Jahad.

 

And fyi, hes at Baylor now. So expect some really high level prospects to start coming out of that school in 3-4 years once hes had a chance to implement his program, and his recruiting classes are coming out in the draft. His ability to identify talent that no one else does and develop has been remarkable. With access to a much bigger pipeline and more naturally gifted athletes -- keep an eye on that program.

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5 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Oh and welcome to the Jahad Thomas bandwagon.

Live in the Philly area and most of my close friends graduated from Temple.... been watching him tear teams up for a couple years; even against some top teams like Clemson, Notre Dame and Penn State. 

Posted about him a month ago in the RB thread. He wont be a 3 down back obviously, because he'll go down with any substantial contact.... but hitting him isnt a given proposition. He possesses great vision and patience.... and then can change direction in the blink of an eye. And hes quicker than he is fast. But he's a tough dude and a willing and capable blocker. Could be a nice 3rd down option with flexibility to move into the slot.

And I trust Temple players. Matt Ruhle built that program with undersized, overlooked prospects and rejects. He runs a very professional organization with emphasis on getting an education so i trust his kids to be clean in the NFL. And he gets those boys hitting day 1 of spring ball. They open almost every practice session with full contact and tackling drills in pads. Very tough guys that love contact, have high character, and are very used to having to overcome physical limitations to stand out. The past 2 years theyve knocked off or taken to the limits some real heavy hitter programs.

6th round, or more likely a priority FA... but id be happy with any of the Temple guys - Reddick, Dawkins, Hairston and Jahad.

 

And fyi, hes at Baylor now. So expect some really high level prospects to start coming out of that school in 3-4 years once hes had a chance to implement his program, and his recruiting classes are coming out in the draft. His ability to identify talent that no one else does and develop has been remarkable. With access to a much bigger pipeline and more naturally gifted athletes -- keep an eye on that program.

Spot on assessment of Thomas. He caught my eye a year or two ago when I was watching a prospect's tape against Temple, and I was impressed by how he sets up moves in the open field. He uses his entire body to misdirect defenders with head fakes included (Link1, Link2). I'm sure you've seen those plays, so I'm throwing them out as examples for others. He has average long-speed and inconsistent leg drive upon contact, but his quick and precise upfield cut and short area quickness soften the issue. If we're giving a shifty RB a look in the 6th round, I hope we also give Tarik Cohen a look, but I certainly wouldn't mind Thomas.

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39 minutes ago, -Truth- said:

Spot on assessment of Thomas. He caught my eye a year or two ago when I was watching a prospect's tape against Temple, and I was impressed by how he sets up moves in the open field. He uses his entire body to misdirect defenders with head fakes included (Link1, Link2). I'm sure you've seen those plays, so I'm throwing them out as examples for others. He has average long-speed and inconsistent leg drive upon contact, but his quick and precise upfield cut and short area quickness soften the issue. If we're giving a shifty RB a look in the 6th round, I hope we also give Tarik Cohen a look, but I certainly wouldn't mind Thomas.

Cohen and Thomas are my two, late round/UDFA gems at RB if we're looking for the 3rd down, receiving type back.

Jahad is just so smooth... looks like hes gliding. Im not comparing him to Leveon on talent level, but hes got that Bell-like ability to patiently sit behind blocks and see creases a split second before theyre there. His speed/size are the big knocks on him, but you dont need to be big if youre not taking a pounding... and the speed will limit his break away ability, but you can overcome it to consistently gain 5, 10, 15 yard chunks if you can anticipate things and quickly find space before the defense even realizes its there.

Glad you like him and see the same things i do.

At the very least hes a kid that wont take no for an answer, and i trust will do absolutely anything and whatever it takes to get himself on the field. Thats what i look for in late round/UDFA picks.

This past year he was in more of a time share at RB with Ryquel Armstead who they used as their power back.... but they supplemented Jahad's carries with more touches in the passing game and he excelled there too; putting up well over 100 yds combined in most games. (Armstead btw could be a good prospect in a year or 2... if they give him a full carry load he could break out... over 900 yds this year as mainly a short yardage, goal line specialist.)

Fancy spin moves and lightning fast cuts to barely avoid tackles or booming hits to bowl over would be tacklers are nice and make the highlight reels... and Jahad has some of those as well; but his prowess is his vision and intelligence to just see things before they happen and keep himself in space. And hes quick enough to hit the spaces in just the right time.

 

I doubt hes ever a household name nationally... but i can definitely see him carving out a very nice role for himself on the right team. He can contribute in all 3 phases, so ST might be his ticket to getting drafted or making a roster; but his desire and intangibles will be what sets him apart eventually and gets him to stick.

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"Butt, Lost, what if it's a safety? Wouldn't it be weird?"

I'm not sure about passing on Barnett, but I like your mock.

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No Mitch Trubisky in the first two rounds, Allen going fifth, Titans trading up, and Redskins going RB perplex me.

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17 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

No Mitch Trubisky in the first two rounds, Allen going fifth, Titans trading up, and Redskins going RB perplex me.

Yea, trubisky especially. Id prob snag him with one of our 3rds if that happened. With a couple years to develop... thats a rare possibility to get a QB prospect with that much upside that late.

I could understand Tennessee trading up there. They want an explosive playmaker for Mariota.... and with both of the other WR's off the board and us having shown a lot of interest in Ross during the pre-draft process, coupled with the Redskins having lost their starting WRs and Ross being a possibly more skilled Desean -- they could very well see both teams immediately in front of them as threats to take him and want to guarantee the pick. 

I imagine the Redskins would want to go DL or LB... but i could definitely see them going RB if they love Cook. While Kelley, Matt Jones, and Thompson all showed flashes at times, i dont see any of them as more than the 2nd or 3rd back in a good rotation. None capable of being the lead guy in a very good rush attack. And with the exodus of receivers they could want to protect their QB with a good run game. Cook is an explosive runner and receiver.

And idk if you are perplexed by Allen being available at 5 or going that early... but it wouldnt be crazy for the top 4 players to be BPA for those teams or closely graded to Allen but fitting a bigger need. Lattimore is the 1 kind of questionable one to me with both safeties still on the board; but ive heard theyre looking at the secondary with an outside chance of QB. Adams/Hooker would make more sense imo, but still in this scenario Allen would still be available.

And that not even taking into account his shoulders which could easily drop him to 5 imo. In which case i wouldnt be surprised at all to see him fall even further.

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My mistake on Mitch guys. I had him slated to be the first QB off the board, must have forgotten to put him back when I did some changes last week.

 

ill fix it when I get home.

 

that said, I think he's gonna suck and I hope the browns draft him #1 overall in real life

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12 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

My mistake on Mitch guys. I had him slated to be the first QB off the board, must have forgotten to put him back when I did some changes last week.

 

ill fix it when I get home.

 

that said, I think he's gonna suck and I hope the browns draft him #1 overall in real life

I think he has potential if sheltered a la Rodgers but if he is thrown out there year 1 it is gonna be a rough ride with him

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2 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

I think he has potential if sheltered a la Rodgers but if he is thrown out there year 1 it is gonna be a rough ride with him

Don't tell the browns that ;)

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1 minute ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Don't tell the browns that ;)

I don't think the Browns would even be a terrible situation for him given their O-line but having to line up under center will be a huge jump for him and he only played at UNC for 1 year. Browns would be smart to build up the defense more and then get their QB in a more promising class

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Just now, 52520Andrew said:

I don't think the Browns would even be a terrible situation for him given their O-line but having to line up under center will be a huge jump for him and he only played at UNC for 1 year. Browns would be smart to build up the defense more and then get their QB in a more promising class

I'd agree with you. But I still want them to pass up on Garrett for Trubisky. It'd be a lousy pick by virtue of Garrett probably becoming an all pro. And even with a good situation like that.... they're the browns. They'll find ways to lose

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Just now, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

I'd agree with you. But I still want them to pass up on Garrett for Trubisky. It'd be a lousy pick by virtue of Garrett probably becoming an all pro. And even with a good situation like that.... they're the browns. They'll find ways to lose

Yeah they will find a way to mess it up, it is crazy how much opportunity they have had in the past that they have just thrown away. Those 2012 and 2014 drafts were amazing at how awful they were

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On 4/24/2017 at 0:40 PM, 52520Andrew said:

Yeah they will find a way to mess it up, it is crazy how much opportunity they have had in the past that they have just thrown away. Those 2012 and 2014 drafts were amazing at how awful they were

 

I hope they draft Trubisky at this point tbh. I would not mind facing him twice a year at all. 
 

Just watch. Myles Garret will pull a Joe Thomas... Have a hall of fame career but no one will care because he's a member of the Browns

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