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Just now, ravensnation5220 said:

Doesnt matter cause the Colts are picking Cam Robinson anyways

Really? I wouldn't be surprised if they took the best pass rusher available or even Reddick. If Foster is there then he's the pick. 

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Just now, JO_75 said:

Really? I wouldn't be surprised if they took the best pass rusher available or even Reddick. If Foster is there then he's the pick. 

No they want size. The new GM has been very clear that they need to get bigger along the line. I dont think they will like Reddick or Foster because they arent necessarily big players

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I'm not the biggest fan of Cam Robinson but he definitely shows some good stuff on tape especially with how physical he is when run blocking and etc. He probably would would excel awhole lot at guard though 

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3 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

I'm not the biggest fan of Cam Robinson but he definitely shows some good stuff on tape especially with how physical he is when run blocking and etc. He probably would would excel awhole lot at guard though 

He would excel at guard but I have this horrible feeling that we'd put him at RT. Which would be lousy.

 

 

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56 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

And Conley it is.  Apparently a strong denial and the story itself is awfully fishy from the alleged victim's perspective.

Lattimore is tweeting about it in a bad way. Check out his Twitter before his agent tells him to delete the tweets

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3 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

 

Albert Breer reporting his name was filtering to teams and now they are trying to fact check this quickly.

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15 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

I think ozzie should have been fired a few years ago tbh. His drafting outside of the middle rounds ( where hes been good, not epic) has been poor. I'm tired of his late 90's early 00's drafts just keeping his reputation upfloat.

What if Cam Robinson is the pick? You think he could learn to be a good right tackle? What could would be done with him if he gets beat like heavy metal drums?

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Sidney Jones doctor says he should be ready by September. 

Crap.

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16 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

He would excel at guard but I have this horrible feeling that we'd put him at RT. Which would be lousy.

 

 

I think if he  was drafted it would be ideal for The Ravens to see if he can be a  starting right tackle. I honestly think they would try to move Alex Lewis and Cam Robinson between left guard and right tackle throughout training camp  to see what player is best suited at before actually naming who will be what before the regular season starts. 

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This whole deal with conley seems a lottle odd however i have one thing to say. 

You literally only need to stay out of the spotlight for 3 months. How hard is that!?!?!? Stay home and dont do ANYTHING!!!! Is it really that hard to just not surround yourself in bad situations

Now with peppers...if you know drinking too much water will affect your urine sample then just deal with the cramps. Unless your trying to hide something....John Ross had cramps and he still managed a 4.22 40. Suck it up so you dont have this diluted sample hanging over your head. Now teams will worry about his dependability considering he will be tested 12 times a month for 3 years!!!! 

 

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No way Sidney Jones makes it until our second round pick now. Someone in the backend of the first is going to take him. He's too good and may only miss a couple weeks of the season.

Lets pray it's not the Steelers.

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39 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

If in all those years in alabama under saban you can't develop a decent technique against lesser standard players you are not a first round pick.

Tbf Alabama doesn't seem to coach linemen well. When is the last time a quality G or T has come out of Alabama? Wouldn't exactly hold the program in high regards there

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I'd rather cam than taak because of the quality of edge rushers in this draft. Taak just doesn't bend enough for my liking. There are lots of other rushers such as TJ Watt, Jordan Willis, T Bowser or even tim williams who we could get in the 2nd who are better than takk IMO.

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2 minutes ago, Ravens4Real said:

No way Sidney Jones makes it until our second round pick now. Someone in the backend of the first is going to take him. He's too good and may only miss a couple weeks of the season.

Lets pray it's not the Steelers.

 

he might be functional but i doubt he'll be 100% until the following season. Esp for a corner..if it were a linesman i'd think differently

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30 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

He would excel at guard but I have this horrible feeling that we'd put him at RT. Which would be lousy.

 

 

This is my only issue with cam. He's an elite guard prospect and a very risky tackle prospect. If our FO went ahead and said Alex Lewis is in heavy consideration for RT rather than playing up his "potential" as a guard and only speaking of him as a RT in a "if we HAVE to" sense, then I'd be on board with cam. 

He is a game changer at guard, he plows holes wide open in the run game and his kickstep is hidden while he gets to use his anchor often, as a tackle all of his deficiencies get put under a spotlight so all the defenders can see them and exploit them.

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1 minute ago, Sami84 said:

he might be functional but i doubt he'll be 100% until the following season. Esp for a corner..if it were a linesman i'd think differently

He should be able to make contributions later on in the season. Obviously not right away as he has to learn a system and get back up to speed.

Do you take a CB that may not contribute a whole lot at the back end of the first round? Factoring in that he may be was a top 5 pick without the injury? I would if I were a GM.

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2 minutes ago, Ravens4Real said:

He should be able to make contributions later on in the season. Obviously not right away as he has to learn a system and get back up to speed.

Do you take a CB that may not contribute a whole lot at the back end of the first round? Factoring in that he may be was a top 5 pick without the injury? I would if I were a GM.

 
 

not in this draft..tonnes of great CB prospects from round 1-4. Best Cb draft in a long long time.

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3 minutes ago, Ravens4Real said:

He should be able to make contributions later on in the season. Obviously not right away as he has to learn a system and get back up to speed.

Do you take a CB that may not contribute a whole lot at the back end of the first round? Factoring in that he may be was a top 5 pick without the injury? I would if I were a GM.

Yeah Jones was never getting top 5 buzz. Only CB getting that is Lattimore

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1 minute ago, ellicottraven said:

What do you guys make of Lamp's agent implying through a tweet that Forrest Lamp may be our pick at 16?

http://ebonybird.com/2017/04/25/did-forrest-lamps-agent-hint-at-the-baltimore-ravens-taking-him-in-the-draft/

 

i'd be happy. THe epitome of a non sexy but all business pick. Lamp is Yanda like..He's sound, smart and can play multiple positons on the O line. He has a super high floor. Great player and it would show that ozzie has evolved. If he picks cam or takk..he's a  joke IMO.

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2 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

What do you guys make of Lamp's agent implying through a tweet that Forrest Lamp may be our pick at 16?

http://ebonybird.com/2017/04/25/did-forrest-lamps-agent-hint-at-the-baltimore-ravens-taking-him-in-the-draft/

He's a fine value at 16, and shoring up the line would make us a much better team. I'd prefer a trade back, but it'd be a good pick that I couldn't complain about.

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1 minute ago, Ravens4Real said:

He should be able to make contributions later on in the season. Obviously not right away as he has to learn a system and get back up to speed.

Do you take a CB that may not contribute a whole lot at the back end of the first round? Factoring in that he may be was a top 5 pick without the injury? I would if I were a GM.

During the season, rookies master the playbook, during TC and minicamps is when rookies get that close 1on1 time with coaches and vets to learn NFL technique. Having the free time for a coach to drill into a players head after every single snap is valuable. 

also The difference between football shape and rehab shape is also a big deal, you got no muscle memory and less explosion and flexibility when your body is used to the weight room rather than the field

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2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Sounds like I won't be happy this Thursday 

i wouldnt get too upset.

Why exactly 2 days before the draft would anyone from the Ravens release who theyre planning on taking?? Makes 0 sense.

"Cam enters the conversation" and "cam is the likely pick" are 2 separate things.

 

 

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If it is Robinson (which I really hope it isn't), I would want him at tackle over guard. His strengths as a player are his long arms and decent kick step. I don't think he's the kind of player who improves by being moved to guard. 

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Just now, jboy19 said:

If it is Robinson (which I really hope it isn't), I would want him at tackle over guard. His strengths as a player are his long arms and decent kick step. I don't think he's the kind of player who improves by being moved to guard. 

i dont see that at all - i dont think he has good footwork for a tackle and definitely not a good kickstep - he is at his best when he gets hands on and uses his anchor to drive into the chests of guys

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1 minute ago, jboy19 said:

If it is Robinson (which I really hope it isn't), I would want him at tackle over guard. His strengths as a player are his long arms and decent kick step. I don't think he's the kind of player who improves by being moved to guard. 

I disagree entirely, he's got long arms, but his footwork is sketchy at best and his best attribute as a lineman is his strength and mauler mentality. His pass blocking needs lots of work and has trouble with speedy edge rushers, this problem is alleviated by a move inside and his strengths are better utilized there overall.

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2 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

I disagree entirely, he's got long arms, but his footwork is sketchy at best and his best attribute as a lineman is his strength and mauler mentality. His pass blocking needs lots of work and has trouble with speedy edge rushers, this problem is alleviated by a move inside and his strengths are better utilized there overall.

My impression is that he plays way too high up to make a difference in the run game against NFL DTs. It might be fixable but I wouldnt count on it.

 Im not even saying his footwork is amazing, but getting good depth on a kick step is one of the biggest things I've seen tackles struggle with and that seems to be something he did well (albeit inconsistently). 

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41 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

What do you guys make of Lamp's agent implying through a tweet that Forrest Lamp may be our pick at 16?

http://ebonybird.com/2017/04/25/did-forrest-lamps-agent-hint-at-the-baltimore-ravens-taking-him-in-the-draft/

Also this was said at the beginning of April 

 

 

Chad Forbes‏ @NFLDraftBites

 

New Ravens OL Coach Joe D'Allesandris might quit if Ravens passed on Forrest Lamp. Think Andy Levitre & Eric Wood mixed... But Better.

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