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Just now, Sami84 said:

he's such an overrated prospect. He's a worse version of michael oher..

 

He's saying he could be a great guard. Did Oher not play tackle...? Okay then. 

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2 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

wait for everyone though who hates this pick to suddenly go KOOL AID and say ozzie is a genius when it does happen.

 

Probably. I was like that when we picked Stanley then I agreed with it, but I can not agree if this is the pick even if no QBs go before us(highly unlikely) there will be a better player and position to take.

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1 minute ago, Sami84 said:

he's such an overrated prospect. He's a worse version of michael oher..

 

Doesn't he also have a checkered past? Or does character issues not apply to Alabama players?

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2 minutes ago, ALI624 said:

Probably. I was like that when we picked Stanley then I agreed with it, but I can not agree if this is the pick even if no QBs go before us(highly unlikely) there will be a better player and position to take.

 

i loved stanley as a prospect..was not upset at all when we took him.

This however will be ozzies final nail in the coffin. He's been messing these drafts up for years and i think we'll be looking at a 2010 like draft messup this year IF he's indeed looking at cam robinson or taak as the first round options.

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31 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Sounds like I won't be happy this Thursday 

Which is it Cam,Tak?? Tak I presume?? If so I agree. Not so sure he has the skills that transfer. I prefer Williams/Lawson. Would accept Harris.

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7 minutes ago, Drew P said:

Doesn't he also have a checkered past? Or does character issues not apply to Alabama players?

I don't know alot about his off the field concerns but The Ravens never said they wouldn't draft a player that has off the field issues  atleast not the type that weren't domestic violence related.

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1 minute ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Which is it Cam,Tak?? Tak I presume?? If so I agree. Not so sure he has the skills that transfer. I prefer Williams/Lawson. Would accept Harris.

Both. I don't dislike either of them but I hate both of them at 16. The value simply isn't there, there are bound to be better players available. 

I just really hate the idea of Corey Davis or haason reddick or marlon Humphrey becoming an elite player at positions we have needed for so long, meanwhile we take high risk players who have strong potential to bust

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Although he plays for Bama Cam can get so much better. Offensive lineman there know their schemes well. But technique could get light years better in the NFL by leaps and bounds. How many sec lineman were not ready to play as rookie?? Lots!! I would be very happy with Cam. Ravens is his best landing spot. He will learn from the best technicians in Yanda and Stanley. I would prefer Davis and Reddick but cool with Cam as well

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btw the only reason why he's high on robinson is because of alabama..if he were playing for anyone else and showed what he showed he'd not be interested. I don't get ozzie, i really don't..

He's still a guy that looks at size over ability. Forrest Lamp is the best OL in this draft. It would not shock me if he would be a better RT than Robinson either. 

Taak is an overrated prospect much like sergio kindle. In a class filled with far more dynamic and productive edge rushers he goes with one of the more average ones. Does he have issues with guys that can bend? he  seems to love the straight line guys..

 

I'm not going to watch the draft. I'm going to be dissapointed..I can only hope theres a gm out there dumb enough to take cam robinson before us and someone as inept to take taak if we trade back and he's been taken before we get to pick.

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People on this board will find a way to be unhappy unless a top 5 talent falls all the way to 16.

Get your binkeys ready, because it is not going to happen.

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1 minute ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Although he plays for Bama Cam can get so much better. Offensive lineman there know their schemes well. But technique could get light years better in the NFL by leaps and bounds. How many sec lineman were not ready to play as rookie?? Lots!! I would be very happy with Cam. Ravens is his best landing spot. He will learn from the best technicians in Yanda and Stanley.

 

:/ You can't teach fast feet His are slow..

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I called this couple weeks ago said watch the ravens take Cam Robinson at 16 but don't be surprised if it's Forrest Lamp not Robinson as well 

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Just now, Ravenskid52752 said:

I called this couple weeks ago said watch the ravens take Cam Robinson at 16 but don't be surprised if it's Forrest Lamp not Robinson as well 

if its forrest lamp, ozzie might have evolved..

 

sadly, i think he's still living in the past.

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Just now, Sami84 said:

:/ You can't teach fast feet His are slow..

Definitely would say his feet are slow but his punch is slow tho on defenders sometimes. His feet looked good when he was Road grading Myles Garrett out of the hole multiple times 

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Gareon Conley being accused of rape. Wonder how that would impact his draft position? I'm not sure we would touch him even if he fell.

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now i wish we paid ricky wagner over brandon williams even more than i did originally.

Would have at least not have to think about the possibility of drafting a bust in the making like cam robinson. Damnit ozzie WHY do you disappoint so often?

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3 minutes ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

Definitely would say his feet are slow but his punch is slow tho on defenders sometimes. His feet looked good when he was Road grading Myles Garrett out of the hole multiple times 

 

garrett was injured in that game.

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8 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

:/ You can't teach fast feet His are slow..

That's the problem!! You hit it!! Sometimes he looks like Stanley with his feet sometimes he is lazy reaches and lunges at last second. When he runs his opponents he looks good. Ask Garrett. His flaws are very coachable. Not best pick but there is massive potential

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1 minute ago, PurpleHorseman said:

That's the problem!! You hit it!! Sometimes he looks like Stanley with his feet sometimes he is lazy reaches and lunges at last second. When he runs his opponents he looks good. Ask Garrett. His flaws are very coachable. Not best pick but there is massive potential

 

:/ if a tackle can't pass protect well in college how on earth is he a 1st rounder?

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Everybody is totally against Cam Robinson and he hasnt played a single snap yet....smh. The guy can instantly upgrade our running game. Im all in on Cam. You build your team from the inside out and Cam is arguably the best olineman in the draft. He gives you flexibility, dependability and production (as an offensive lineman)

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5 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

now i wish we paid ricky wagner over brandon williams even more than i did originally.

Would have at least not have to think about the possibility of drafting a bust in the making like cam robinson. Damnit ozzie WHY do you disappoint so often?

Agree. Should of paid Wagner. One dimensional NT's can find.

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1 minute ago, Sami84 said:

:/ if a tackle can't pass protect well in college how on earth is he a 1st rounder?

He pass protected well, his problem was inconsistent technique. He has all the traits you look for in a tackle

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22 minutes ago, Drew P said:

Doesn't he also have a checkered past? Or does character issues not apply to Alabama players?

My thoughts exactly. He's got so many problems. And yet he's still in play because of Alabama.

 

Ill be the first to say it. If we draft Robinson I will call for Ozzie to be fired. It'd be a lousy pick 

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1 minute ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Everybody is totally against Cam Robinson and he hasnt played a single snap yet....smh. The guy can instantly upgrade our running game. Im all in on Cam. You build your team from the inside out and Cam is arguably the best olineman in the draft. He gives you flexibility, dependability and production (as an offensive lineman)

 

If being the best is being a big, lumbering, unbalanced, false starting guy who is only good when in screen plays ( hes in a favorable system btw) then i'd rather we just played nembot.

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1 minute ago, ravensnation5220 said:

He pass protected well, his problem was inconsistent technique. He has all the traits you look for in a tackle

If in all those years in alabama under saban you can't develop a decent technique against lesser standard players you are not a first round pick.

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3 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

My thoughts exactly. He's got so many problems. And yet he's still in play because of Alabama.

 

Ill be the first to say it. If we draft Robinson I will call for Ozzie to be fired. It'd be a lousy pick 

 

I think ozzie should have been fired a few years ago tbh. His drafting outside of the middle rounds ( where hes been good, not epic) has been poor. I'm tired of his late 90's early 00's drafts just keeping his reputation upfloat.

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27 minutes ago, Cville-Raven said:

Cam Robinson you say. Yesss can't wait for the meltdowns.

Why Ozzie Why?

;).

 

im praying this is a smokescreen given Cam's off the field issues

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Just now, ravensnation5220 said:

Doesnt matter cause the Colts are picking Cam Robinson anyways

Source? Speculation ? Show me?

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