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2 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

Dude Robinson can't touch Miller. Think Future Trunks vs. Perfect Cell

Well good thing well probably never have to play him

Besides. Anyone we put put there wont be able to touch him, Ill take my chances with Cam

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2 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

Dude Robinson can't touch Miller. Think Future Trunks vs. Perfect Cell

What about krillin vs super Saiyan blue goku? 

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Just now, ravensnation5220 said:

Well good thing well probably never have to play him

We will play him, Houston, and Mack next year. 

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Just now, Davesta said:

What about krillin vs super Saiyan blue goku? 

Dude Krillin did better than I thought but he was totally about to die lol

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Just now, 52520Andrew said:

We will play him, Houston, and Mack next year. 

I meant playoffs but either way its only once. Sounds like we do need a RT then. Theres no better option out there other than Cam...if there is let me know

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1 minute ago, ravensnation5220 said:

I meant playoffs but either way its only once. Sounds like we do need a RT then. Theres no better option out there other than Cam...if there is let me know

So that means we need to draft a subpar RT at 16? Because the O-line class stinks?

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9 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

So that means we need to draft a subpar RT at 16? Because the O-line class stinks?

Hes not subpar lol but. Yes. It does. 

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17 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Hes not subpar lol but. Yes. It does. 

He is not the 16th best player in this draft (or even in top 20).  Would that be a better way of putting it?

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Corey Davis #5? WTH is going on? Will we have anybody left to pick at 16? I hate this draft. I had dreamed that Corey Davis was our pick.

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Well, the early rumors of the.Ravens being high on Humphrey turned out to be true.

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9 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

Well, the early rumors of the.Ravens being high on Humphrey turned out to be true.

Walter Football was actually on this one... not with the Ravens taking him, but 2-3 weeks ago they had reported sources telling them that Humphrey was much higher with the teams than the media was. They were hearing that up to half the league had Humphrey as the #1 CB and most had him at worst #2 behind Lattimore.... and that he was expected to go Top 10; with 11 at NO or 14 to Philly being his absolute floor.

 

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3 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Walter Football was actually on this one... not with the Ravens taking him, but 2-3 weeks ago they had reported sources telling them that Humphrey was much higher with the teams than the media was. They were hearing that up to half the league had Humphrey as the #1 CB and most had him at worst #2 behind Lattimore.... and that he was expected to go Top 10; with 11 at NO or 14 to Philly being his absolute floor.

 

You should post this is the Welcome thread.

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Charlie Campbell once again... adjusted his mock for the whole NFL and the remaining board, and still has us taking a 4th round run stopping DT in Chris wormley. 

What is with this dude?

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7 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Charlie Campbell once again... adjusted his mock for the whole NFL and the remaining board, and still has us taking a 4th round run stopping DT in Chris wormley. 

What is with this dude?

well i hope it goes just like his first round prediction for us

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Alot of people are praising them but I think the browns are absolutely foolish for not taking Watson at 12.

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3 hours ago, Moderator 3 said:

You should post this is the Welcome thread.

Ive post that along with Albert Breer's article from yesterday morning "10 things I'm hearing leading up to the draft..." which cited multiple sources that Humphrey and Adoree Jackson were unanimously the 2nd and 3rd CBs and were going to be drafted much higher than most thought.

 

Some just dont want to hear it and think that what the media mocks say is written and stone.... and that if the actual professionals -- you know the guys who make tons of money evaluating talent -- must be the ones who are wrong bc Bucky Brooks had Humphrey going late 1st.

 

:huh:

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1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Charlie Campbell once again... adjusted his mock for the whole NFL and the remaining board, and still has us taking a 4th round run stopping DT in Chris wormley. 

What is with this dude?

I just saw that. Considering he was WAY off on our 1st round pick.... i mean he clung to that Cam Robinson rumor like his life depended on it..... i feel pretty safe that we wont be taking Wormley in the 2nd.

BUt he does have us taking Tim Williams in the 3rd -- which would be AWESOME -- bc that would allow us to take the best of the available OL or WRs in the 2nd like Lamp or Cam if somehow one falls, or Dawkins or Feeney.... and Juju, Godwin, Zay Jones, or Curtis Samuel id be happy w/ too depending on who else was on the board.

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Another thing I want to say -- 

Much of our perception, whether we admit it or not, of players draft value and where they should be taken is effected by the media mocks.

Early on almost everyone had us taking CB.... until we signed Jefferson and Carr and then they felt our secondary was set and we'd go elsewhere. Well thats projecting us to draft by need, which we dont strictly do. And when these guys do their mocks theyre trying to fit players to needs.... and most of them didnt have more than 2-3 CBs going round 1.

But, if they had their sources right theyd have known most teams had Humphrey #2... and if they had that... most wouldve had Humphrey coming off the board to Buffalo, NO, Arizona, Philly or Indy. Almost every single one would have said Humphrey had no shot of being available.... and if we didnt sign Carr we wouldve still been frequently mocked CB's, and so Tre White, Kevin King, Adoree Jackson, and Quincy Wilson would have been frequent targets for us in mocks.

 

In that reality (which is a more realistic reality where media people have good, reliable information about what theyre reporting on instead of baseless guessing) everyone realizes we got a player rated much higher than where he went.

 

Im not defending the pick to claim i had Humphrey as my highest player there. But I will defend the value, in that without the QB and WR run, he wouldnt have been available to us.

And the players i preferred, i admit that without good information on their health and red flags -- i am by no means a reliable source to say whether or not we shouldve picked them.

OJ Howard is literally the ONE guy you can make a strong case for.... but even he is largely a projection of traits and athleticism.

So when you read between lines, realize how much our perceptions are shaped by what we're fed, and accept that in all likelihood we're all crappy talent evaluators in a game thats already a crapshoot.... its not that hard to get on board with a decision that clearly makes sense, especially when the player clearly has upside and is a really good kid deserving of an opportunity.

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