Draft Rumor Mill

[PurpleHorseman]

7 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

And your Homer way of just constantly repeating the same dumb opinions over and over isnt going to stop him from becoming great.

He'll be what he'll be, because of him.

 

Your argument is like saying -- Corey Davis is going to suck bc theres bigger WRs in this draft... and theres some really great WRs in the nfl that are big. So, if youre not really big you cant be good. "But hes an elite route runner and theres plenty of very good WRs that are elite route runners in the NFL." Yea, but big is the most important part of being a WR. And speed. 

Therefore dont draft corey davis. He sucks. Its fact. Jalen ramsey will limit him, so dont draft him.

 

No one knows what any of these guys are going to do... but even those of us that love him think he will be really good in the NFL... which is different than saying "he cant handle NFL tackles bc every single one is amazing and if their hands touch him Barnett wont be able ot move. And theyll all be able to touch him bc his feet cant even move hes so slow."

Its like hyperbole. But worse. Bc you believe it.

The repeating of stupid dreams of every homer. Teams are going to kick him aside because of his traits don't add up to elite player. But the ravens are going to see the good and draft him anyways and he will reward the ravens. That's every homers pipe dream. Drafting a try hard player nobody else wanted and him becoming an elite player.

[rossihunter2]

27 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

The homer way negging things you don't like to hear. That's really going to help Barnett sack the QB. Lmao

how are we homers for disagreeing about your assessment of a player who isnt on our team and probably wont end up on our team?

[Drew P]

7 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Albert Breer's mock has this little nugget.

16. Ravens: Alabama LB Reuben Foster. No one gets more background on Bama players than Ozzie Newsome. And I hear he’s OK with Foster’s flags

The player is not as relevant as is the school...

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

2 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

The repeating of stupid dreams of every homer. Teams are going to kick him aside because of his traits don't add up to elite player. But the ravens are going to see the good and draft him anyways and he will reward the ravens. That's every homers pipe dream. Drafting a try hard player nobody else wanted and him becoming an elite player.

Most scouts and experts think Corey Davis is going to fall to late 20's bc they dont think hes as good as Williams or Ross.

But you think hes the best. Hes a try hard who isnt nearly as dominant as Williams or Ross in freak athletic traits. What say you? You think Davis is gonna hard work his way to dominance? Hes not as fast, not as big, not as good hands, not as acrobatic. Hes gonna flame out just like every other small school WR that looked good playing a bunch of middle schoolers.

Such homerism for liking him (haha bc someones a 'homer' for thinking a player from Tennessee will work out.. you DO know what the home in homer stands for right?)

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

4 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

how are we homers for disagreeing about your assessment of a player who isnt on our team and probably wont end up on our team?

No we're homers for liking a player from........... Tennessee.

[rossihunter2]

4 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Most scouts and experts think Corey Davis is going to fall to late 20's bc they dont think hes as good as Williams or Ross.

But you think hes the best. Hes a try hard who isnt nearly as dominant as Williams or Ross in freak athletic traits. What say you? You think Davis is gonna hard work his way to dominance? Hes not as fast, not as big, not as good hands, not as acrobatic. Hes gonna flame out just like every other small school WR that looked good playing a bunch of middle schoolers.

Such homerism for liking him (haha bc someones a 'homer' for thinking a player from Tennessee will work out.. you DO know what the home in homer stands for right?)

lol and the fact that i like corey davis doesnt make me a homer somehow simply because he also likes him? unless he's also a homer... i mean his name would suggest he is...

also as someone from London, quite how I could be accused of homerism when talking about college football prospects is crazy

Edited April 27 by rossihunter2

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

13 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Albert Breer's mock has this little nugget.

16. Ravens: Alabama LB Reuben Foster. No one gets more background on Bama players than Ozzie Newsome. And I hear he’s OK with Foster’s flags

I love Rueban Foster. But if he's okay with his character concerns.... then. Well.

 

I guess Alabama players can do no wrong 

[rossihunter2]

Just now, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

I love Rueban Foster. But if he's okay with his character concerns.... then. Well.

 

I guess Alabama players can do no wrong 

maybe it's the effect of the media but im heavily souring on the idea of foster - the way he's dealt with everything concerns me (not just the actual off-field stuff)

[JoeKnows]

15 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Albert Breer's mock has this little nugget.

16. Ravens: Alabama LB Reuben Foster. No one gets more background on Bama players than Ozzie Newsome. And I hear he’s OK with Foster’s flags

La Canfora says something similar in his mock.

16. Baltimore Ravens

Reuben Foster, LB, Alabama: Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome is Crimson Tide to his core, and he loves the way this kid plays. There are some red flags but everything I've heard leads me to believe this team is comfortable with him. Sure, a pass catcher makes sense, but I don't see that happening unless Mike Williams is on the board.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

1 minute ago, rossihunter2 said:

maybe it's the effect of the media but im heavily souring on the idea of foster - the way he's dealt with everything concerns me (not just the actual off-field stuff)

It makes me more worried for the Cam Robinson stuff. I think foster is going to be an excellent player but I initially thought we'd pass on him due to the concerns. But if Ozzie gives Foster a pass, he's likely to give one to Robinson as well. Only because of Alabama.

 

Ozzie Newsome is a hypocrite if this is the case 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Just now, JoeKnows said:

La Canfora says something similar in his mock.

16. Baltimore Ravens

Reuben Foster, LB, Alabama: Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome is Crimson Tide to his core, and he loves the way this kid plays. There are some red flags but everything I've heard leads me to believe this team is comfortable with him. Sure, a pass catcher makes sense, but I don't see that happening unless Mike Williams is on the board.

I wouldnt hate it. Not at all. If were comfortable with the off field stuff -- potentially a top 5-7ish talent at 16. Sign me up.

Though i might think for a second or two if other guys i like are on the board.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Actually hearing something similar from La Canfora eases my nerves.

 

that dude is fake news

[Ravenskid52752]

Just now, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Actually hearing something similar from La Canfora eases my nerves.

 

that dude is fake news

I Wouldn't say fake news I would say jump the gun to earlier type of guy 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Just now, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

It makes me more worried for the Cam Robinson stuff. I think foster is going to be an excellent player but I initially thought we'd pass on him due to the concerns. But if Ozzie gives Foster a pass, he's likely to give one to Robinson as well. Only because of Alabama.

 

Ozzie Newsome is a hypocrite if this is the case 

Read a great article on this the other day.

Relationships with the colleges matter a ton. Its not just because theyre alabama players that he ignores off field stuff. He has sources there beyond the coach and players. He knows professors, janitors, secretaries, etc... taht he can ask how these kids are when no ones watching. how they are in class. are these problems big or no.

How many alabama players have we drafted then went on to get arrested or cause head aches? If ozzie trusts his sources at bama and theyve never steered him wrong on a players character, and maybe HAVE steered him away from talented bama players in the past -- its not trust the player or overlooking the red flags, its just getting deep information that he trusts.

He may not know a soul at Ole Miss and couldnt get anything reliable on Tunsil, or this player or that player.

Its not hypocritical at all.

 

Im sure youre quicker to forgive a brother, sister, friend, cousin, etc... for doing the same exact thing than you would a stranger. because you have the context of the mistake, you know it doesnt define that person, and others you trust also still like that person. the stranger you have no context, whether this was an isolated incident or just the 1st time they were caught -- and even if ppl tell you otherwise, if you dont know THEM well you dont know if they have alternative motives (like hyping up your program by pushing a player in the 1st round).

Ozzie has solid sources at Bama to vet this stuff that he just doesnt otherwise. Im sure Michigan is the same too. Peppers and Jourdan Lewis may not be any lower on our board than they were before, while others with similar issues may have fallen. Or maybe they did fall bc Jim verified that theyre both punks. But i guarantee theyre more confident in their evals of the Michigan kids than they are the Ohio state.

[52520Andrew]

14 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

This is my way of coping with potential disappointment should the Ravens actually take Cam Robinson. I tell myself he is the pick till such time he isn't. Then all is well and I drink Peppermint Schnapps and praise the Lord and Ozzie!

Pretty much my strategy right now haha

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

i think Purplehorseman's Winchester is starting to show.

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

i think Purplehorseman's Winchester is starting to show.

[Ravenskid52752]

1 minute ago, rmw10 said:

Lol

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

1 minute ago, rmw10 said:

Dude, put that thing away. There are like, children here

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

2 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

i think Purplehorseman's Winchester is starting to show.

I was starting to think I was alone in this train of thought.

 

Should we draft Alpha Males and players with fast twitch muscle?

[52520Andrew]

4 hours ago, rmw10 said:

Somewhat good news for Conley, it seems.  Still missing out on a ton of money but not as bad as it could be.  Strong indications that a lot of teams believe the accusations are completely false.

 

Yeah you would think if the claims were legit that they would wait until after they were drafted to increase the amount of compensation they will get.

[rossihunter2]

Just now, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

I was starting to think I was alone in this train of thought.

 

Should we draft Alpha Males and players with fast twitch muscle?

this is why he puts so much stock on 40 times - it's coz they are all shirtless and in their underwear

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1 minute ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

I was starting to think I was alone in this train of thought.

 

Should we draft Alpha Males and players with fast twitch muscle?

nah im with you. the constant use of the word "homer" and the hate for prospects that dont have the fast twitch athletic traits and stuff.

I had suspicions a bit ago... but today it became all but obvious to me.

The winchester really comes out when you get him riled up.

[JoeKnows]

8 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Read a great article on this the other day.

Relationships with the colleges matter a ton. Its not just because theyre alabama players that he ignores off field stuff. He has sources there beyond the coach and players. He knows professors, janitors, secretaries, etc... taht he can ask how these kids are when no ones watching. how they are in class. are these problems big or no.

How many alabama players have we drafted then went on to get arrested or cause head aches? If ozzie trusts his sources at bama and theyve never steered him wrong on a players character, and maybe HAVE steered him away from talented bama players in the past -- its not trust the player or overlooking the red flags, its just getting deep information that he trusts.

He may not know a soul at Ole Miss and couldnt get anything reliable on Tunsil, or this player or that player.

Its not hypocritical at all.

 

Im sure youre quicker to forgive a brother, sister, friend, cousin, etc... for doing the same exact thing than you would a stranger. because you have the context of the mistake, you know it doesnt define that person, and others you trust also still like that person. the stranger you have no context, whether this was an isolated incident or just the 1st time they were caught -- and even if ppl tell you otherwise, if you dont know THEM well you dont know if they have alternative motives (like hyping up your program by pushing a player in the 1st round).

Ozzie has solid sources at Bama to vet this stuff that he just doesnt otherwise. Im sure Michigan is the same too. Peppers and Jourdan Lewis may not be any lower on our board than they were before, while others with similar issues may have fallen. Or maybe they did fall bc Jim verified that theyre both punks. But i guarantee theyre more confident in their evals of the Michigan kids than they are the Ohio state.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

3 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

nah im with you. the constant use of the word "homer" and the hate for prospects that dont have the fast twitch athletic traits and stuff.

I had suspicions a bit ago... but today it became all but obvious to me.

The winchester really comes out when you get him riled up.

Yup. He's gonna call us all losers in a second. Just wait.

 

I love me some Barnett. If he falls to us we are blessed.

 

@OriolesMagicPlease. You're not allowed to have two accounts Winchester. Cmon man. Smh

Edited April 27 by LosT_in_TranSlatioN

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Just now, JoeKnows said:

So 1. and he it was animal abuse, and not until the offseason where he became a FA.

[Ravens4Real]

2 minutes ago, JoeKnows said:

Don't care whether he was a headcase or not. He just simply wasn't very good for where we drafted him. That was a big miss by Ozzie.

[Ravens4Real]

Not a lot of people want to hear this, but if we have any shot of having just an average O line, I think the first pick needs to be OL. 

There are basically no starting material players past round 1. After round 1, they will be developmental and probably not ready to start.

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Dude come on now. We're talking world class athletes. He isn't getting that low that a tackle can't get his hands on him. NFL tackles have stronger hands. Barnett's hand usage isn't going to mean jack. The holding happens when an edge rusher gets by him so fast while low. NFL tackles will mirror him and get their hands on him.

No dude you come on now lol. Why are you acting like it isn't totally blatant on film that he dips so low that tackles can't get a hand on him. It's so easy to see for everyone but you apparently. And he's done this against first and second round NFL tackles, big conference guys

[rossihunter2]

3 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

No dude you come on now lol. Why are you acting like it isn't totally blatant on film that he dips so low that tackles can't get a hand on him. It's so easy to see for everyone but you apparently. And he's done this against first and second round NFL tackles, big conference guys

also he seems to forget that nfl tackles used to be college tackles - and most of them werent picked particularly high in the draft