4/14 RaineV1 mock draft

[RaineV1]

I meant to do one of these after the Jernigan trade, but kept putting it off. I'll admit upfront that the third round gave me a lot of trouble since there's a ton of guys I see going in the late 2nd to mid 3rd range. The third round picks could seem optimistic, but I'm going with my gut reaction for who'll be there. And to start, the picks before us:

Pick 1: Myles Garrett

Pick 2: Jamal Adams

Pick 3: Marshon Lattimore

Pick 4: Solomon Thomas

Pick 5: Malik Hooker

Pick 6: OJ Howard

Pick 7: Jonathon Allen

Pick 8: Leonard Fournette

Pick 9: Derek Barnett

Pick 10: John Ross

Pick 11: Haason Reddick

Pick 12: Michael Trubisky

Pick 13: Rueben Foster

Pick 14: Marlon Humphrey

Pick 15: Ryan Ramczyk

 

Round 1, Pick 16: Mike Williams, WR, Clemson

Flacco just seems to do well with physical receivers he can trust to fight for the ball in intermediate routes (Boldin, Mason, SSS, and Pitta for example), and that's exactly what Williams offers. Williams can step in, and be the Mr. Reliable on our offense that'll keep drives alive and help us finish strong with a TD in the redzone. He can also go deep and fight for those 50/50 passes. Even if he doesn't catch the deep pass, he'll make sure the DB doesn't get it. Williams, Perriman, and Wallace would be the best WR core the Ravens have ever had, and we'd always have a mismatch in our favor. Also, on top of that Williams brings big game experience that the Ravens seem to like. He's coming off of a 8 catch, 94 yard, 1 TD championship game against possibly the best defense in college football.

 

Round 2: Pat Elflein, C, Ohio State

Great power, great leverage thanks to a wrestling background, and played at a high level against top tier competition. Elflein is an immediate impact lineman that will start from day one, and possibly become one of the top ten centers in the NFL. I think he's exactly what the Ravens are looking for in a center. Also, since centers usually don't break the bank he could be a franchise lineman that starts for a solid decade or more for the Ravens.

 

Round 3 (Eagles): Ryan Anderson, edge, Alabama

My gut tells me that more athletic guys that can possibly get 10 plus sacks a year (Rivers, Willis, etc) leap ahead of Anderson in the draft and it causes him to slide further than he should. Stout for an edge rusher (6'2") and plays even lower giving him a leverage advantage when combined with his long arms. He has the ability to get pressure, and can set the edge well. He can basically be what we wanted Upshaw to become, and someone that can fill Suggs' spot as an every down strongside edge player. Also, funnily enough, the scout quote for his NFL.com scouting report is: "Size is more suited for 4-3 SAM but he could play some rush outside backer in a 3-4. He would fit Baltimore and Pittsburgh as a 3-4 SAM, too." -- NFC area scout.

I really think Anderson, Rivers, Willis, or Alex Anzalone will be here and all of them could be a good fit. Anderson is just the best guy to take over for Suggs and the one I see potentially sliding to this pick.

 

Round 3: Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson

According to PFF: "One of only four FBS defensive linemen with at least 40 combined pressures and 35 defensive stops in 2016." He's quick off the snap, strong, and makes full use of his long arms. He's the perfect replacement for Jernigan, and seems like a perfect fit for the Ravens.

 

Round 4: Howard Wilson, CB, Houston

Inexperience, lanky, and came out a year too early. But as I said before, he has all the traits you look for. I think in two or three years Wilson can definitely become one of the top five or six CBs from this draft, and can be a good starter. He just needs to be eased into it, and spend a year in an NFL weight room.

 

Round 5: TJ Logan, RB, UNC

One of the best returners in college football. He's got blazing fast speed and the ability to change directions on a dime.

 

Gonna skip the 6th round since I really don't know the players that seem like they'll be available here. I guess a small school OT would potentially be good or another special teamer.

[usmccharles]

Not too familiar with the 3rd and 4th round picks, ill do some reading.  But id be stoked with the first two picks. 

[Edgar]

I really don't get Humphrey being mocked to the Eagles. I would hope they reach for him but I fully expect him to go late one or early two.

Anyway, a good mock. I do think the third round is optimistic but only slightly and those two would be a superb third round.

I prefer Davis but wouldn't argue against Williams.  One thing that appeals to me is that each player you picked plays with an edge and with fire.

I would double at corner in round six....

Nice.

Edited April 14 by Edgar

[ravensnation5220]

If those are our first 3 picks im happy. Actually Id be bouncing off the walls

Even though part of me feels like we should go RT or pass rusher in the first round but i get mike williams/corey davis

Edited April 14 by ravensnation5220

[Deflated Football]

2 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

If those are our first 3 picks im happy. Actually Id be bouncing off the walls

Same. I'm getting too attached to Mike Williams as a Raven which means he won't be here

[RaineV1]

4 minutes ago, Edgar said:

I really don't get Humphrey being mocked to the Eagles. I would hope they reach for him but I fully expect him to go late one or early two.

Anyway, a good mock. I do think the third round is optimistic but only slightly and those two would be a superb third round.

I prefer Davis but wouldn't argue against Williams.  One thing that appeals to me is that each player you picked plays with an edge and with fire.

I would double at corner in round six....

Nice.

They badly need a corner and he's rated as one of the best in the draft on most sites so I penciled him in as their pick. It could just as easily be Quincy Wilson or some other first round corner.

[Davesta]

12 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

Same. I'm getting too attached to Mike Williams as a Raven which means he won't be here

I feel that way about Corey Davis. I'm not sure how I would feel if we pick mike with Corey still on the board. We will forever compare the two. Like Matt Ryan to flacco

[ravensnation5220]

1 hour ago, Deflated Football said:

Same. I'm getting too attached to Mike Williams as a Raven which means he won't be here

Im not that attached to him because theres similar players to be had in later rounds. All he really is is a big bodied target for joe with hands. 

To me the value of cam robinson is much greater, he can line up anywhere except maybe center. If stanley were to ever get hurt id rather slide him over to left than try and fix that with whoever we have. To me thats great value

[usmccharles]

3 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Im not that attached to him because theres similar players to be had in later rounds. All he really is is a big bodied target for joe with hands. 

To me the value of cam robinson is much greater, he can line up anywhere except maybe center. If stanley were to ever get hurt id rather slide him over to left than try and fix that with whoever we have. To me thats great value

Robinson is one of the players I would be disappointed with if we used 16 for him.  This just isn't a good OL class, I love this analogy:  Sometimes you don't have to be the hottest girl at the bar, just the only girl.  I feel that applies here, if not, I just wanted to say it. 

[ravensnation5220]

4 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Robinson is one of the players I would be disappointed with if we used 16 for him.  This just isn't a good OL class, I love this analogy:  Sometimes you don't have to be the hottest girl at the bar, just the only girl.  I feel that applies here, if not, I just wanted to say it. 

I like cam, hes not perfect by any stretch but you can work with him. Hes got plenty of upside and more than held bis own in the SEC. I just posted my opinion on this in the prediction vs preference poll thread

[usmccharles]

Just now, ravensnation5220 said:

I like cam, hes not perfect by any stretch but you can work with him. Hes got plenty of upside and more than held bis own in the SEC. I just posted my opinion on this in the prediction vs preference poll thread

I just think we can find adequate talent after the first

[hn68wb4]

6 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Robinson is one of the players I would be disappointed with if we used 16 for him.  This just isn't a good OL class, I love this analogy:  Sometimes you don't have to be the hottest girl at the bar, just the only girl.  I feel that applies here, if not, I just wanted to say it. 

I wouldn't be disappointed if we take him to play LG, at RT I'm right there with you, I don't think he'll be a great RT - at least not for a couple years. But I think you can plug and play him at LG and he'll be a pro bowl caliber player, so if we do actually want to move Lewis out then I'd be fine with Robinson. Not my preferred pick, but I wouldn't we upset about it.

[usmccharles]

4 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

I wouldn't be disappointed if we take him to play LG, at RT I'm right there with you, I don't think he'll be a great RT - at least not for a couple years. But I think you can plug and play him at LG and he'll be a pro bowl caliber player, so if we do actually want to move Lewis out then I'd be fine with Robinson. Not my preferred pick, but I wouldn't we upset about it.

Ya know what, I guess I should re-evaluate this situation.  Considering Yanda's age this could be a great draft pick.  The issue I have is that there are so many game changers in this draft, especially the defensive talent in the first.  We need to find a replacement for Suggs and Yanda, two very important positions and waiting till one of them retire to draft the replacement (ie Torrey situation) would be a huge mistake.  Thanks @ravensnation5220

Not what I would prefer, but I would understand it and not be disappointed. 

Edited April 14 by usmccharles

[Underdogsontop!]

I'd be happy with this draft. If Barnett is not there at 16 I'd be happy with M Williams. He reminds me of a Dez Bryant type WR but with better hands. Lol. I like eflien pick, I'd hope he could be a day 1 starter though. I'm thinking Anderson won't be there in the 3rd, but if he is I'd be happy with that pick too. I'd rather have a better CB in the 3rd then a DT. Then another O linemen in the 4th. IMO 

[ravensnation5220]

1 minute ago, usmccharles said:

Ya know what, I guess I should re-evaluate this situation.  Considering Yanda's age this could be a great draft pick.  The issue I have is that there are so many game changers in this draft, especially the defensive talent in the first.  We need to find a replacement for Suggs and Yanda, two very important positions and waiting till one of them retire to draft the replacement (ie Torrey situation) would be a huge mistake.  Thanks @ravensnation5220

Not what I would prefer, but I would understand it and not be disappointed. 

See i think hes a tackle through and through. Theres plenty of talent in the later rounds at other positions like reciever. Id either want us to go with oline or pass rusher with our first pick

 

9 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

I just think we can find adequate talent after the first

Like who? Theres no one else in this draft with Cams caliber

[hn68wb4]

9 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

See i think hes a tackle through and through. Theres plenty of talent in the later rounds at other positions like reciever. Id either want us to go with oline or pass rusher with our first pick

 

Like who? Theres no one else in this draft with Cams caliber

What makes you so confident in him at tackle? honestly I see him as somewhat similar to Osemele, sure you can put him at RT - as we did with KO his rookie year - and you'll get an overall solid performance, but put him at guard, specifically LG, and you'll get something special. Just my opinion, but I hate his footwork at tackle, speed rushers are a real problem for him, and the guy's biggest positive attributes from what I can see is his strength and his mauler mentality which I feel would be best utilized inside - and inside you can alleviate some of his footwork problems. Maybe I just need to watch him again, but that was my impression when I watched him back in, I think, February.

[ravensnation5220]

1 minute ago, hn68wb4 said:

What makes you so confident in him at tackle? honestly I see him as somewhat similar to Osemele, sure you can put him at RT - as we did with KO his rookie year - and you'll get an overall solid performance, but put him at guard, specifically LG, and you'll get something special. Just my opinion, but I hate his footwork at tackle, speed rushers are a real problem for him, and the guy's biggest positive attributes from what I can see is his strength and his mauler mentality which I feel would be best utilized inside - and inside you can alleviate some of his footwork problems. Maybe I just need to watch him again, but that was my impression when I watched him back in, I think, February.

Well i think you take him as an offensive lineman in general and figure out where he fits best in training camp. I think he should do well at tackle in the nfl. I mean he started at LT for Alabama since his freshman year. That has to say something, he has the length and lower body strength to play tackle. Im not too worried about him playing speed rushers because there really arent any in our division. I posted a breakdown of him in the prediction vs preference thread and in the comments section of the video the guy who did the breakdown(who is an oline coach) sees him as a tackle. 

[JoeyFlex5]

Great mock, just don't see williams being there

[SepticeyePoe]

2 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Robinson is one of the players I would be disappointed with if we used 16 for him.  This just isn't a good OL class, I love this analogy:  Sometimes you don't have to be the hottest girl at the bar, just the only girl.  I feel that applies here, if not, I just wanted to say it. 

I think that's a perfect analogy.

[Somerset Ravens]

4 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Robinson is one of the players I would be disappointed with if we used 16 for him.  This just isn't a good OL class, I love this analogy:  Sometimes you don't have to be the hottest girl at the bar, just the only girl.  I feel that applies here, if not, I just wanted to say it. 

 

1 hour ago, SepticeyePoe said:

I think that's a perfect analogy.

You guys need to go to a better bar.

[usmccharles]

On 4/14/2017 at 7:26 PM, Somerset Ravens said:

 

You guys need to go to a better bar.

Your telling me....