The Horsemans draft haul.

[PurpleHorseman]

11 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

lol here we go again... where is your list? never banged the table for correa, i defended him after we drafted him, and his career is far from finished to begin with so way to really see things through... 

but absolutely, tell me who i banged the table for so i can dismiss them all again as false...

You can't see Correa is a bust and doesn't have NFL skills?? Do you really need to watch him play for 4 yrs to decide he is a bust? You are seeing who I like. I'll do you one better than say who you liked. I'll show you

Edited April 8 by PurpleHorseman

[JoeyFlex5]

Just now, PurpleHorseman said:

You can't see Correa is a bust and doesn't have NFL skills?? You are seeing who I like

lol hes a project, a lot of players take time to develop, a lot of players have to find a comfort zone and settle in, correa didnt even know what position he would be playing until  zach orr retired, and still isnt certain because if we draft/sign another ILB he could be moving again. i dont know what you consider NFL skills but he has a lot of raw talent and Boise State is notorious for leaving players uncoached. 

do you need a list of players who didnt break out as rookies and developed later on? because it appears you just began watching the NFL in 2016 and truly dont know how often players dont break out as rookies.

[PurpleHorseman]

7 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

lol hes a project, a lot of players take time to develop, a lot of players have to find a comfort zone and settle in, correa didnt even know what position he would be playing until  zach orr retired, and still isnt certain because if we draft/sign another ILB he could be moving again. i dont know what you consider NFL skills but he has a lot of raw talent and Boise State is notorious for leaving players uncoached. 

do you need a list of players who didnt break out as rookies and developed later on? because it appears you just began watching the NFL in 2016 and truly dont know how often players dont break out as rookies.

He doesn't have the necessary skills to break out. Will you be on RSR next year. I'm already a member there longer than here. So you can stand in when Correa is terrible and your boy Barnett fails to make any impact. Some break out later but some don't. And clearly don't have the skills to

Edited April 8 by PurpleHorseman

[JoeyFlex5]

6 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

He doesn't have the necessary skills to break out. Will you be on RSR next year. I'm already a member there longer than here. So you can stand in when Correa is terrible and your boy Barnett fails to make any impact.

lol ok. what skills does he lack to play as a respectable 2nd ILB? would love to hear this considering he has almost no film as an off the ball linebacker from college. as if there is something so terribly wrong with holding out hope for a raw but talented player we selected in the second round...

and yeah, if barnett fails to make an impact then ill be wrong, but trust me, i wont be the only one who was dead wrong there, considering damn near everyone sees a stud very much in the mold of terrell suggs. 

still waiting to see who you banged the table for in the past and proof of you doing so... and again still waiting for you to provide any proof of me banging the table for certain guys, you wanna falsely mention upshaw again like you do every single time we have this argument?

Edited April 8 by JoeyFlex5

[PurpleHorseman]

11 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

lol ok. what skills does he lack to play as a respectable 2nd ILB? would love to hear this considering he has almost no film as an off the ball linebacker from college. as if there is something so terribly wrong with holding out hope for a raw but talented player we selected in the second round...

and yeah, if barnett fails to make an impact then ill be wrong, but trust me, i wont be the only one who was dead wrong there, considering damn near everyone sees a stud very much in the mold of terrell suggs. 

still waiting to see who you banged the table for in the past and proof of you doing so... and again still waiting for you to provide any proof of me banging the table for certain guys, you wanna falsely mention upshaw again like you do every single time we have this argument?

I'm not home right now. I have clips in my old phone of your reports. I always compare scouting reports. Never said you banged for Upshaw and Correa but you definitely liked the picks 

Edited April 8 by PurpleHorseman

[JoeyFlex5]

Just now, PurpleHorseman said:

I'm not home right now. I have clips in my old phone of your reports. I always compare scouting reports 

i would think theyd be posted by now considering you pull this nonsense 2-3 times a week.

[PurpleHorseman]

I have no prob acknowledging who I liked. 2015 Lockett, Agholor, Jarrett,Diggs,Hunter. And of course Lael Collins. Man crushes on Jarrett Diggs Collins. Round1 it was Landon Collins and Agholor. A draw. I wanted  one of them round1. Was surprised he went a pick early. So it left Collins. An analyst late night at the fan turned me onto him.

Edited April 8 by PurpleHorseman

[Jonah DeVito]

[PurpleHorseman]

21 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

i would think theyd be posted by now considering you pull this nonsense 2-3 times a week.

Nonsense? You arrogantly talk like your guys are future all pros. Yet most of the picks you defend turn to busts. And talk like you know what you are talking about. Correa is terrible yet you seem to think he is going to breakout. He is awful. If you have A foggy picture in your head of what an NFL athlete plays like you will acknowledge it is highly unlikely he breaks out.

Edited April 8 by PurpleHorseman

[JoeyFlex5]

13 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Nonsense? You arrogantly talk like your guys are future all pros. Yet most of the picks you defend turn to busts. And talk like you know what you are talking about. Correa is terrible yet you seem to think he is going to breakout. He is awful. 

this just isnt true. i talk about what i see on film, the only time i get "arrogant" is when someone acts like a complete buffoon, like saying we should trade our first for la'el collins, but i wouldnt call that arrogance, just more shocked at what im reading and responding appropriately.

and when you say "defend" do you mean.. when the ravens pick a player, whether i liked them or not, i defend the pick? of course i do, im a ravens fan, when we select a player i dont like, i look for as much positivity as i can. i was pissed when we took perriman over byron jones and malcom brown, but i went back and studied the hell out of him and saw a lot of reason to be excited, same exact thing for correa, my original guy was Dodd who was also a project, but after he was picked i wanted spence or shephard until we traded back again, then i wanted michael thomas or jason spriggs, but when we took correa i found a reason to be positive. in the third i wanted billings, darian thompson, calhoun, or bullard, i didnt like kaufusi but i found reasons to be positive. 

DEFENDING a pick thats already been made by your team is not pounding the table, do you even know what that means? as a ravens fan i would be an idiot to just bash a player and hope for the worst so i can say i was right, of course i defend the picks ozzie makes, because he knows better than any of us and has a hall of fame resume and i want his picks to be right so we can be a better team. 

now if you wanna know some players i actually pounded the table for that we got... ill start from 2016 and go back: 

kenneth dixon, maxx williams, terrence brooks, campanaro, arthur brown, osemele, jimmy smith, and torrey smith. 2011 was the first year i started following the draft but didnt really get deep into it until 2014. there were plenty of other players i pounded the table for that we DIDNT take that turned out to be very good, and there were players that have been nobodies, which is exactly what you should expect when predicting a crapshoot like the nfl draft. 

 

we can also go over some of the bold predictions ive made that turned out to be right, and everyone called me crazy at the time... 

2016 

when nkemdiche was being touted as the first overall pick early on, i disagreed, because he played like he went blind as soon as he got in the backfield. 

when everyone thought derrick henry was a surefire first rounder, i disagreed because he is a slow starter with no lateral speed and an upright runner. 

i thought the best wr in this class would either be michael thomas or corey coleman, was torn on the 2, but currently it looks like thomas is the best. 

2015 

i thought trae waynes was very overrated and a late first rounder at best 

danny shelton was just average and needed to lose about 50 lbs of straight up flab or else he would get pushed around, cant throw your fat at NFL blockers and expect to win 

i thought devin smith was highly overrated around here, and while i liked his jumpball, i didnt see enough game to be a nfl receiver. 

i thought nate orchard was highly overrated and didnt think he would amount to much 

2014

said ODB was the best wr in the class 

i pounded the table that jordan matthews was unquestionably better than marqise lee and i was chastised to the end of the earth for this 

early on i called cyrus kuanndjio a future bust when he was being touted as a top ten pick 

i didnt like any of the big behemoth TEs of this class including: ASJ, troy niklas, cj fiedorowicz, and jace amaro, but everyone around here seemed to love one of them 

 

i could keep going but you get the point. this is all about arguing back and forth on opinions, some will be right some will be wrong, we are all gonna be guilty of it, but when you start calling people out as if they dont have a say because they predicted X player would do good but they busted, then you are on your way to making a bad name for yourself. whos gonna discuss anything with someone who comes back and says "lol im not listening to an idiot who thinks _____ was gonna be good". 

Edited April 8 by JoeyFlex5

[PurpleHorseman]

30 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

this just isnt true. i talk about what i see on film, the only time i get "arrogant" is when someone acts like a complete buffoon, like saying we should trade our first for la'el collins, but i wouldnt call that arrogance, just more shocked at what im reading and responding appropriately.

and when you say "defend" do you mean.. when the ravens pick a player, whether i liked them or not, i defend the pick? of course i do, im a ravens fan, when we select a player i dont like, i look for as much positivity as i can. i was pissed when we took perriman over byron jones and malcom brown, but i went back and studied the hell out of him and saw a lot of reason to be excited, same exact thing for correa, my original guy was Dodd who was also a project, but after he was picked i wanted spence or shephard until we traded back again, then i wanted michael thomas or jason spriggs, but when we took correa i found a reason to be positive. in the third i wanted billings, darian thompson, calhoun, or bullard, i didnt like kaufusi but i found reasons to be positive. 

DEFENDING a pick thats already been made by your team is not pounding the table, do you even know what that means? as a ravens fan i would be an idiot to just bash a player and hope for the worst so i can say i was right, of course i defend the picks ozzie makes, because he knows better than any of us and has a hall of fame resume and i want his picks to be right so we can be a better team.

Of course we want our picks to work out. But you can not like a pick and be a fan of the team. And I said you like some busts and bang the table for some players. Never said you banged for players we already have. I have an email I could post from you saying Dareus Rogers is better than JuJu. lol Then you changed your mind only after his 4.9 40. And you claimed in your post you noticed in his tape recently he is slow and can't separate.

You were all over him before his 4.9 40 and 26 inch vertical. Then you claim to not care much for workouts and go by tape. Yet you were all over Rogers and on that bandwagon of draft steal. Then jumped off after his pedestrian workouts. And claimed you jumped off because something you saw on tape. lol Do you really know what to look for in an athlete? Do you know what you are looking at watching tape?

Edited April 8 by PurpleHorseman

[JoeyFlex5]

6 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Of course we want our picks to work out. But you can not like a pick and be a fan of the team. And I said you like some busts and bang the table for some players. Never said you banged for players we already have. I have an email I could post from you saying Dareus Rogers is better than JuJu. lol Then you changed your mind only after his 4.9 40. And you claimed in your post you noticed in his tape recently he is slow and can't separate.

You were all over him before his 4.9 40 and 26 inch vertical. Then you claim to not care much for workouts and go by tape. Yet you were all over Rogers and on that bandwagon of draft steal. Then jumped off after his pedestrian workouts. And claimed you jumped off because something you saw on tape. lol Do you really know what to look for in an athlete? Do you know what you are looking at watching tape?

Lol where did I say it was something I saw on tape? He looked damn good on tape, and I saw that he was slow, but I didn't realize he was 4.9 slow. I don't put much stock into workouts but rookie receivers can't be running 4.9 40s, speed dwindles each year and by year 3 he'll be slower than most guards, there's not putting much stock in workouts then there's just being logical. 

You don't seem to do either 

by the way, check the edit to the post above. im done talking to you because you are constantly hounding about things that never happened and you are just incapable of a real discussion 

Edited April 8 by JoeyFlex5

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, PurpleHorseman said:

I have no prob acknowledging who I liked. 2015 Lockett, Agholor, Jarrett,Diggs,Hunter. And of course Lael Collins. Man crushes on Jarrett Diggs Collins. Round1 it was Landon Collins and Agholor. A draw. I wanted  one of them round1. Was surprised he went a pick early. So it left Collins. An analyst late night at the fan turned me onto him.

agholor? come on man you liked nelson agholor, a bust! i cant even listen to you anymore. 

see what im getting at?

[PurpleHorseman]

11 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

agholor? come on man you liked nelson agholor, a bust! i cant even listen to you anymore. 

see what im getting at?

It's rare I like a bust. You hit on about 20% of your players

[JoeyFlex5]

2 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

It's rare I like a bust. You hit on about 20% of your players

Lol ok

[PurpleHorseman]

33 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Lol where did I say it was something I saw on tape? He looked damn good on tape, and I saw that he was slow, but I didn't realize he was 4.9 slow. I don't put much stock into workouts but rookie receivers can't be running 4.9 40s, speed dwindles each year and by year 3 he'll be slower than most guards, there's not putting much stock in workouts then there's just being logical. 

You don't seem to do either 

by the way, check the edit to the post above. im done talking to you because you are constantly hounding about things that never happened and you are just incapable of a real discussion 

We are having a discussion about your busts. How can anybody watch tape and say Rogers is better than JuJu? Do you like Chad Kelly? Would you change your icon and boardname if he takes ravens starting QB job and knocks joe Flacco to the bench? Or would you keep it

Edited April 8 by PurpleHorseman

[Jonah DeVito]

8 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

We are having a discussion about your busts. How can anybody watch tape and say Rogers is better than JuJu? Do you like Chad Kelly? Would you change your icon and boardname if he takes ravens starting QB job and knocks joe Flacco to the bench? Or would you keep it

Rogers does look really freakin good.

[PurpleHorseman]

4 minutes ago, Jonah DeVito said:

Rogers does look really freakin good.

Huh? He better learn the Canadian national anthem. Like flex said by year3 Terrance Cody could blanket him. He would be a shutdown cornerback covering Sir Dareus!! He may be able to get open against Tom Brady

Edited April 8 by PurpleHorseman

[Jonah DeVito]

3 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Huh? He better learn the Canadian national anthem. Like flex said by year3 Terrance Cody could blanket him. He would be a shutdown cornerback covering Sir Dareus!! He may be able to get open against Tom Brady

You obviously have never watched him play. He would absolutely be better than JuJu if he was faster, he has some of the best hands I have seen. How about in the USC vs Colorado game this past year when he made Ahkello Witherspoon look like a rag doll on an underthrown pass. But yeah Tom Brady could cover him. Quit talking out of your ***.

[PurpleHorseman]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

this just isnt true. i talk about what i see on film, the only time i get "arrogant" is when someone acts like a complete buffoon, like saying we should trade our first for la'el collins, but i wouldnt call that arrogance, just more shocked at what im reading and responding appropriately.

and when you say "defend" do you mean.. when the ravens pick a player, whether i liked them or not, i defend the pick? of course i do, im a ravens fan, when we select a player i dont like, i look for as much positivity as i can. i was pissed when we took perriman over byron jones and malcom brown, but i went back and studied the hell out of him and saw a lot of reason to be excited, same exact thing for correa, my original guy was Dodd who was also a project, but after he was picked i wanted spence or shephard until we traded back again, then i wanted michael thomas or jason spriggs, but when we took correa i found a reason to be positive. in the third i wanted billings, darian thompson, calhoun, or bullard, i didnt like kaufusi but i found reasons to be positive. 

DEFENDING a pick thats already been made by your team is not pounding the table, do you even know what that means? as a ravens fan i would be an idiot to just bash a player and hope for the worst so i can say i was right, of course i defend the picks ozzie makes, because he knows better than any of us and has a hall of fame resume and i want his picks to be right so we can be a better team. 

now if you wanna know some players i actually pounded the table for that we got... ill start from 2016 and go back: 

kenneth dixon, maxx williams, terrence brooks, campanaro, arthur brown, osemele, jimmy smith, and torrey smith. 2011 was the first year i started following the draft but didnt really get deep into it until 2014. there were plenty of other players i pounded the table for that we DIDNT take that turned out to be very good, and there were players that have been nobodies, which is exactly what you should expect when predicting a crapshoot like the nfl draft. 

 

we can also go over some of the bold predictions ive made that turned out to be right, and everyone called me crazy at the time... 

2016 

when nkemdiche was being touted as the first overall pick early on, i disagreed, because he played like he went blind as soon as he got in the backfield. 

when everyone thought derrick henry was a surefire first rounder, i disagreed because he is a slow starter with no lateral speed and an upright runner. 

i thought the best wr in this class would either be michael thomas or corey coleman, was torn on the 2, but currently it looks like thomas is the best. 

2015 

i thought trae waynes was very overrated and a late first rounder at best 

danny shelton was just average and needed to lose about 50 lbs of straight up flab or else he would get pushed around, cant throw your fat at NFL blockers and expect to win 

i thought devin smith was highly overrated around here, and while i liked his jumpball, i didnt see enough game to be a nfl receiver. 

i thought nate orchard was highly overrated and didnt think he would amount to much 

2014

said ODB was the best wr in the class 

i pounded the table that jordan matthews was unquestionably better than marqise lee and i was chastised to the end of the earth for this 

early on i called cyrus kuanndjio a future bust when he was being touted as a top ten pick 

i didnt like any of the big behemoth TEs of this class including: ASJ, troy niklas, cj fiedorowicz, and jace amaro, but everyone around here seemed to love one of them 

 

i could keep going but you get the point. this is all about arguing back and forth on opinions, some will be right some will be wrong, we are all gonna be guilty of it, but when you start calling people out as if they dont have a say because they predicted X player would do good but they busted, then you are on your way to making a bad name for yourself. whos gonna discuss anything with someone who comes back and says "lol im not listening to an idiot who thinks _____ was gonna be good". 

I actually agreed with most of this lol. Spooky!! I thought Matthews however was awkward running inside routes. Robinson I liked as much as Marqise. I kinda like 6'0 WRs that play tall yet are shifty and sudden in routes. As I root for smaller shutdown cornerbacks(go tavon young) Wunt  hir sum ting rilly fonny? I thought Beckham would be a beast. But I hoped he wouldn't because there was something that rubbed me the wrong way about him. Now his team can barely tolerate him. I would prefer 2 high end No.2 borderline NO.1 WRs over an elite NO.1 and solid NO.2 receiver. I know that idea is getting 500 negs for not wanting any our WRs to be a franchise stud receiver.

Edited April 8 by PurpleHorseman

[JoeyFlex5]

Just now, PurpleHorseman said:

I actually agreed with most of this lol. Spooky!! Wanna hir sum ting rilly fonny? I thought Beckham would be a beast. But I hoped he wouldn't because there was something that rubbed me the wrong way about him. Now his team can barely tolerate him. I would prefer 2 high end No.2 borderline NO.1 WRs over an elite NO.1 and solid NO.2 receiver. I know that idea is getting 500 negs for not wanting any our WRs to be a franchise stud receiver.

weird... i agree with all of these points as well. i hated beckhams obvious self centered style, it never became a problem at LSU but you could tell he thought he was the center of the universe, i still prayed to baby jesus he would fall to 16 and that we wouldnt take mosley or HHCD over him if he was there... which im sold that we wouldve taken at least mosley over him. 

and i always thought joe did better spreading the ball around when no one receiver is a true standout, everybody being equally solid prevents him from defaulting to the same guy everytime the first option is covered. flacco has the stafford-megatron problem, the problem is we have pitta instead of megatron and it becomes an absolute disaster when flacco just flicks it to him the second he senses trouble.

[PurpleHorseman]

10 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

weird... i agree with all of these points as well. i hated beckhams obvious self centered style, it never became a problem at LSU but you could tell he thought he was the center of the universe, i still prayed to baby jesus he would fall to 16 and that we wouldnt take mosley or HHCD over him if he was there... which im sold that we wouldve taken at least mosley over him. 

and i always thought joe did better spreading the ball around when no one receiver is a true standout, everybody being equally solid prevents him from defaulting to the same guy everytime the first option is covered. flacco has the stafford-megatron problem, the problem is we have pitta instead of megatron and it becomes an absolute disaster when flacco just flicks it to him the second he senses trouble.

Give us say a Keenan Allen,JuJu, Max working up to potential,Dixon,Jake Butt and Boyle at fullback and Our offense is top3. And obviously a top offensive line. Obviously I'm rooting for Chris Moore. 6'0 plays tall, Quick in his routes.

Edited April 8 by PurpleHorseman

[JoeyFlex5]

1 minute ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Give us say a Keenan Allen,JuJu, Max working up to potential,Dixon,Jake Butt and Boyle at fullback and Our offense is top3. Obviously I'm rooting for Chris Moore. 6'0 plays tall, Quick in his routes.

i love keenan allen as a talent but the injuries are undeniable. ive come around a little on juju but still cant shake the jaelen strong similarities. jake butt, again injuries. personally i wish we went after robert woods, and while i dont think corey davis is this fail safe guy everyone hypes him up to be i still think hed be worth it at 16. not too big on zay jones either. really i just dont love this wr class, i think isaiah ford is still being criminally underrated and should go in the third

 

[PurpleHorseman]

22 minutes ago, Jonah DeVito said:

You obviously have never watched him play. He would absolutely be better than JuJu if he was faster, he has some of the best hands I have seen. How about in the USC vs Colorado game this past year when he made Ahkello Witherspoon look like a rag doll on an underthrown pass. But yeah Tom Brady could cover him. Quit talking out of your ***.

Duuude. What is wrong with you. I'm playing. But he is slooooow. JuJu is the man.

[PurpleHorseman]

12 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

i love keenan allen as a talent but the injuries are undeniable. ive come around a little on juju but still cant shake the jaelen strong similarities. jake butt, again injuries. personally i wish we went after robert woods, and while i dont think corey davis is this fail safe guy everyone hypes him up to be i still think hed be worth it at 16. not too big on zay jones either. really i just dont love this wr class, i think isaiah ford is still being criminally underrated and should go in the third

 

I agree. But duuuude please don't put JuJu with strong. I hated that guy. JuJu is so much quicker in routes than credited for.  He is so natural and fluid. I really like juju and Ardarius Stewart. Don't know much about ford yet. Zay is waaay overrated. I like Corey a lot but again not shatterproof. Allen is the kinda wr we need. Top end NO.2 borderline No.1 receiver. He is often injured but maybe it allows us to wrestle him away then he shakes that injury bug finally 

Edited April 8 by PurpleHorseman

[JoeyFlex5]

3 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

I agree. But duuuude please don't put JuJu with strong. I hated that guy. JuJu is so much quicker in routes than credited for.  He is so natural and fluid. I really like juju and Ardarius Stewart. Don't know much about ford yet. Zay is waaay overrated. I like Corey a lot but again not shatterproof

i like ardarius stewart over juju myself. i just dont know about juju, i wanna like him but i dont see that fluidity, he plays hard and leaves it all on the field and has good hands and boxes out well, but i dont see the quickness, he rounds off cuts and plays heavy footed. he doesnt have the hip stiffness that strong had though, that much is obvious

[PurpleHorseman]

7 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

i like ardarius stewart over juju myself. i just dont know about juju, i wanna like him but i dont see that fluidity, he plays hard and leaves it all on the field and has good hands and boxes out well, but i dont see the quickness, he rounds off cuts and plays heavy footed. he doesnt have the hip stiffness that strong had though, that much is obvious

Where do you think Ardarius is getting drafted? I thought b4 JuJu. Or else I would have him in my mock where JuJu is. 

I do however really like Lael Collins. He is worth the price of admission for all22. If I were building a team. Building the best Offensive line is what is getting priority. Collins i think is going to all pro this year and recognized as the best lineman in the NFL. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm going out on a limb. This dude is awesome! Will be great at guard and Right Tackle.

[JoeyFlex5]

20 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Where do you think Ardarius is getting drafted? I thought b4 JuJu. Or else I would have him in my mock where JuJu is. 

I do however really like Lael Collins. He is worth the price of admission for all22. If I were building a team. Building the best Offensive line is what is getting priority. Collins i think is going to all pro this year and recognized as the best lineman in the NFL. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm going out on a limb. This dude is awesome! Will be great at guard and Right Tackle.

But you don't trade a first round pick for a player whos gonna be playing on his second contract in a year. It negates the whole first round value thing where you get a stud player on a rookie deal for 5 years, were in no position to do anything of the sort

[rossihunter2]

9 hours ago, PurpleHorseman said:

I'm not making excuses. People made YouTube vids mocking her for her delusion. Are you that <not nice>On how this forum responds to Flacco criticism much less bringing in competition for him? This place goes bonkers when somebody posts a suggestion replacing Joe Flacco. When  his ints nearly rival his TDs. And even when he is near the bottom of every QB stat known.lol

oh i can guarantee that a lot of those youtube videos were made by spiteful men and werent mocking they were insulting and aggressive

anyway,

the reason everyone goes "bonkers" when somebody posts about replacing flacco is because its financially unfeasible and even more unlikely that the replacement would be an inaccurate, big armed, inexperienced qb with proven immaturity issues and the inability to read defences - why would the ravens essentially trade out flacco for a worse version of him?

[rossihunter2]

10 hours ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Somebody reported he said that. His teammates really like and respect him. Young dudes get into altercations. It happens. He has put it behind him and becoming a better adult. He has never punched his gf in the face like Rice did.

The saints and Giants considered him and probably would of drafted him. He isn't a typical undrafted player. He was a suspect in a murder and no team would take the chance. He was found completely innocent. 

You don't think we could carry an extra QB if management feels he is that good? That is how the patriots found Brady. In round6 he was so much better than any player on the board. Then in training camp and preseason he was more talented than the backups and patriots couldn't cut him because of his potential. Patriots carried 4 QBs. If Harbaugh feels his behavior has changed and he has Derek Carr caliber skill set that we picked up in round6. Would Harbaugh cut him? Especially if he clearly outplays Mallet and maybe even Joe Flacco in preseason? Would be nuts to cut him you think?

right so i've got a couple of counters/things to consider here about lael collins:

1) if we traded for him, he would be a 1 year rental because he's in the last year of his contract

2) he is not an all-pro likely to be top of the list of re-signings - especially given the fact that we have cj mosley to re-sign (probably) next offseason - part of the reason we let KO go was because he cost a fortune and because we already had a massive contract on the interior of the O-line - lael collins would be a similar situation at the end of his contract

3) trading a mid-1st round pick for a guy that before the murder investigation was only a late 1st round prospect doesnt make much sense - essentially what you are proposing is a higher level first round pick for 4 years less of a guaranteed rookie contract at a higher price than he initially cost in a mediocre rookie lineman class - i mean i know we look at this as being a bad year for linemen but that year really wasnt great either

4) this upcoming class is not that bad depth-wise for interior lineman - it is tackles where the draft struggles for top-end talent and depth - so im not sure trading for a left guard is really the answer in any case