Examining pre-draft presser- Top 15 big board

[JoeyFlex5]

4 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

So much speculation at this point. Is the draft here yet? The top potential guys that could slip outside top 10, which we would need to trade up for are likely to be: 

Barnett, Williams, Davis and maybe Foster. 

If those guys are gone and the given sure fire top 10 guys like Adams, Hooker, Allen, are all gone, I fully expect us to trade back somewhere between 19-22. Adding another 3rd or 4th is crucial in Ozzie reloading our team and I bet it is killing him that we don't have more picks. 

In contrast though, I'm predicting we trade up in the second like we have in the past for Maxx and Art Brown. I think potential sliders into the second could be Tim Williams, Lawson, Harris, Sid Jones, etc. 

Speaking of smokescreens and pass rushers in the second, I think decosta may have thrown a smokescreen earlier when he singled out Harris and Williams, I think he's expecting both to be available in the second but we actually only like one of them, if I had to guess I'd say we take the risk on williams in that scenario and he wants to keep other teams guessing 

[rossihunter2]

3 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Speaking of smokescreens and pass rushers in the second, I think decosta may have thrown a smokescreen earlier when he singled out Harris and Williams, I think he's expecting both to be available in the second but we actually only like one of them, if I had to guess I'd say we take the risk on williams in that scenario and he wants to keep other teams guessing 

I kind of assumed that as well given that he mentioned only 4/5 rushers going in round 1 - which I imagine will be Garrett, Barnett, McKinley and then reddick if they think of him as an edge guy and then 1 of Lawson/charlton...

it suggests to me that they see at least 1 of Harris and Williams falling to the 2nd - and unless they've heard anything untoward from bama staff I have to think Williams would be the preferred faller

[January J]

14 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I have a hard time believing Harris is a guy we'll take at 16.. 

im starting to think that the wr visits with williams and Ross are smokescreens, i think there's a chance that we fully expect williams, Barnett, the 2 safeties, and foster to be gone, and that our top target at that point is Corey Davis, and that we've seen enough from non-private visits to be comfortable, and we are throwing smoke screens that we are interested in Ross hoping that we can get trade back offers for a team who wants him. 

Ross to ravens hype train has picked up a ton of steam, a LOT of people think we are bound to take him at 16, but I just don't see us taking perriman at 26 and then seeing an injury risk(with less spectacular catch ability) like Ross at a value of ten spots higher, Corey Davis on the other hand, I think the ravens could fully justify that, and maybe could be confident that a tradeback of a few spots can still allow us to secure him. Seems they are adding fuel to the john Ross fire, but I would be truly surprised if we took him at 16

Couldn't agree more about Ross- like I said I don't think he is on our radar whatsoever. His stye just doesn't fit with what we need at all. Hopefully another team needing a speed demon will jump up for him.

 

Ofcourse we expect those other guys to likely be gone but it's a possibility they won't be and that doesn't mean they're not higher on our board obviously. If i was to guess right now who our pick will be after those other guys are gone- I would without a doubt say Corey Davis.

14 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Considering its decosta, it seems more like a smokescreen lol. That guys pokerface and ability to act like he could care less about any situation is just great. 

But then again, considering that... it could be the exact opposite of a smokescreen

You never can tell with Eric. Could be either.

11 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

There are 4 players I would be okay trading up for and they are: Fournette, Foster, Jamal Adams and Jonathan Allen. Other than these guys, if we stay pat I expect us to draft Barnett, Mike Williams, Corey Davis or John Ross in that order of preference. If none of these are available I would like to trade down and target a Jabrill Peppers or Cam Robinson. I don't like too many others in the first round. Tim Williams to me is a target for our #47 pick. I doubt he'll last that long, but that's where he should be picked.

I would absolutely not be OK with trading up for Fournette- that would be a huge mistake IMO as he's a big boom or bust guy- right now I'm leaning towards bust and think he's way overhyped. Would rather have cook but due to his history I see us not touching either. We have our eyes on somebody in the 5th or 6th I'm sure.

 

A lot of people disliked my post I see - I'm very interested to see you alls current top 15 board of picks that are actually within the realm of possibilities.

 

 

Edited April 7 by January J

[January J]

17 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

What from the presser suggests to you that Harris is in the conversation out of interest?

as for some of the tradeback guys I think taco won't be on the board in the 1st for us - decosta specifically mentioned edge guys who don't fit the system which i think refers to him - he also mentioned 4/5 rushers potentially going in the first which I'm having a hard time pinpointing:

Garrett and Barnett are the obvious two, I'd say takk McKinley is probably also guaranteed to go, reddick if they count him (not sure if he would count or not but I think he probably does), im going to take a punt and assume Thomas isn't one (projects more as a versatile d-line guy) so I think that the "maybe" 5th guy is probably either Lawson (injuries making him a maybe) or Tim Williams (off-field making him a maybe)

unless taco is the 5th guy they think someone might reach on because as much as I like Harris I don't see where he fits onto this list of 4/5 if it is only 4/5

i don't think dan feeney is a target, nor peppers (they were way too effusive about him to realistically take him in the 1st), I also think as a rule you might as well take all the potential tackles off the board in the 1st given how they spoke about the middle rounds and having a paucity of tackle options in each round they would target compared to other years

Didn't say anything from the presser suggested that. I'm taking into account everything. And who knows he may have specifically mentioned those things as a smokescreen. We can always take a guy who doesn't necessarily fit if we think the natural athletic ability/ skillset is there and think he's teachable.

Depends how far we tradeback and who's left- anybody can be a target if its a position of need and the board doesn't fall our way. But that's why I had those few guys near the bottom anyway. For some reason I think if one of the top 3 or 4  guys isn't there at 16 that our major aim would be to trade back for Tak McKinley. Just a strong hunch.

Edited April 7 by January J

[RavensDieHard21]

Smoke screens for days lol Ravens fans know Williams is 100% on that radar, but the target is at 47.

[ravensnation5220]

6 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Ehh agholors calling card was his pursuit to the ball kinda, he attacked comebacks and crossing routes very aggressively and would give himself more separation as the ball was coming to him, not necessarily making contested catches but he attacked the ball well still. Davis I actually think is a little more of a passive catcher than I would like from a guy who is so great on the route tree.

Passive???? I just don't see that on film. He's very physical and aggressive from what I see. Agree to disagree 

[Edgar]

2 hours ago, January J said:

Couldn't agree more about Ross- like I said I don't think he is on our radar whatsoever. His stye just doesn't fit with what we need at all. Hopefully another team needing a speed demon will jump up for him.

 

Ofcourse we expect those other guys to likely be gone but it's a possibility they won't be and that doesn't mean they're not higher on our board obviously. If i was to guess right now who our pick will be after those other guys are gone- I would without a doubt say Corey Davis.

You never can tell with Eric. Could be either.

I would absolutely not be OK with trading up for Fournette- that would be a huge mistake IMO as he's a big boom or bust guy- right now I'm leaning towards bust and think he's way overhyped. Would rather have cook but due to his history I see us not touching either. We have our eyes on somebody in the 5th or 6th I'm sure.

 

A lot of people disliked my post I see - I'm very interested to see you alls current top 15 board of picks that are actually within the realm of possibilities.

 

 

Assuming no slide, these are seven players I think worthy at sixteen:

Lamp

Reddick

Davis/Ross (one or the other)

Tim Williams

Cook

Conley

McKinley

Someone will likely slide, of course.....I would guess Barnett or Foster...perhaps Howard.

Here is how I would order the aforementioned :

Reddick

McKinley

Lamp

Davis

Conley

Williams

Cook

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 7 by Edgar

[RavensDieHard21]

1 hour ago, Edgar said:

Assuming no slide, these are seven players I think worthy at sixteen:

Lamp

Reddick

Davis/Ross (one or the other)

Tim Williams

Cook

Conley

McKinley

Someone will likely slide, of course.....I would guess Barnett or Foster...perhaps Howard.

Here is how I would order the aforementioned :

Reddick

McKinley

Lamp

Davis

Conley

Williams

Cook

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I generally agree here. I like Reddick but also love Lamp too. The guy is bound to be an all-around talent with gifted ability to switch between guard and tackle effortlessly like Yanda does. 

Woohoo 2000th post finally!😎

[usmccharles]

13 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

The titans have two picks though in the first round and unless they are in love with mike Williams at number 5 will likely go defence with that pick so I could quite easily see them going receiver at 18

I think they go defense with the first and could see them going TE/WR with the second.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

7 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

I think they go defense with the first and could see them going TE/WR with the second.

I have no idea whether they go offense or defense. Just depends on who's there.

If someone like Williams, Fournette, OJ Howard, or maybe even Corey Davis is there... i could see us going offense almost regardless of what defenders fall (unless of course somehow a guy like Garrett or one of the safeties does).

I could also see them going with Barnett, Reddick, Foster if available.

I could also see trading back and grabbing a RT.,... or pass rusher.... or CB.

 

More so than any other draft i can remember; i literally am not leaning toward them doing any one thing. I could see them trading up for, staying put, or trading back and taking literally anyone at any position

[usmccharles]

4 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I have no idea whether they go offense or defense. Just depends on who's there.

If someone like Williams, Fournette, OJ Howard, or maybe even Corey Davis is there... i could see us going offense almost regardless of what defenders fall (unless of course somehow a guy like Garrett or one of the safeties does).

I could also see them going with Barnett, Reddick, Foster if available.

I could also see trading back and grabbing a RT.,... or pass rusher.... or CB.

 

More so than any other draft i can remember; i literally am not leaning toward them doing any one thing. I could see them trading up for, staying put, or trading back and taking literally anyone at any position

I was talking about the Titans and what they would do with their first two picks, cant tell if you noticed lol.

But for us, i will literally not be surprised on any pick, although with just adding Jefferson and having Weddle, i wouldnt be thrilled with a safety.  I would love if we could find a replacement for Suggs this draft, because if we wait till he retires we will be screwed, like the Torrey situation.