[News] Ravens Trade Timmy Jernigan To Eagles For Higher Third-Round Pick

[Maurice0094]

I don't have a problem with trade if the Ravens weren't going to actually be in the hunt to re-sign him. At least they get value in a draft pick, Davis, Pierce, and Henry get a opportunity now. I'm interested to see if Urban is worth the hype he got coming out of UVA. He couldn't snatch too many reps from Lawrence Guy, he could be another comp pick waiting in the wings.

[steelcityraven]

4 picks in the 1st 80, No reason not to walk away with minimum 3 Starters of 4, and I would even say 4 starter caliber players w/ 4 top 80 picks.

Preferably like this.
Round 1- Franchise Pass Rusher Barnett,TakMcKinley,Harris,Etc

Round 2- CB Tred.White,G.Conley, Kevin King, Tankersely,Tabor etc

Round 3 2 picks Offense-Schuster,Westbrook,Dupree, Kupp, etc

Round 4&5 OL Dan Skipper, McDermott, Zach Banner, Orlovsky

Round 1. Ryan Ramczyk -T- Wisc

Round 2. Tm Williams- OLB-Bamma

Round 3. Ju Ju Smith-Schuster- WR-USC

Round 3. Cam Sutton- CB-Tenn

Round 4. De De Westbrook -WR-Okla

Round 5. Ejuan Price- OLB-Pitt

Round 6. Levon Myers-OT- Northern Illinois

[cobrajet]

  50 minutes ago, davy_861 said:

  1 hour ago, sami said:

  1 hour ago, Adreme said:

  1 hour ago, BiggMack91 said:

dumb move we should have gotten a pick for him not a swap this is the same crap that happened with zuttah we are just giving guys away for next to nothing can wait for eric to start running the show so we can start making some smart moves

It's cute that you think that it would have played out any different.  Moving up that far for a player whose role was being reduced and who will be gone next year is a huge bonus to the Ravens.

I agree. Get it now or lose. Theres no way we was getting a 4th round pick in 2019 for him.

We already lost when we gave Williams all of that money. We have to deal good talent so big muscle man can hoard money.

No.... if I had to pick between keeping Timmy or BW.... I would take BW every day of the week -no issues there but I just don't like the fact that we let TJ go for a 3rd round pick....

We would have gotten a comp pick for him next year (possibly a 3rd or 4th rounder) so we lost Timmy and two 3rd rounders' for a higher 3rd rounder????

If we would have even got a 3rd and a 5th...
or a 2nd and a 5th.... I would have said... man it is worth it.

Heck.... if we would have ended up swapping our 4th for their 3rd... (and ended up with 3 third round picks) I would have said... great move... but as is?????????????????????????????

I am with you. Seems like the Eagles made out on this deal. I don't like it at all.

[cobrajet]

  59 minutes ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

They could at least let Timmy finish out his contract! Smh my day "WAS" good until I read this crap! Smh

Maybe this quick analysis will make you see why this is much more probably gonna end up being a good move than a bad one
 

And if you're familiar with RSR, you know that Tony Lombardy isn't the guy who will defend everything about the Ravens organization's actions.

Sorry bio, I will take a motivated Timmy and his production and a possible 3rd round comp pick next draft over moving up 25 spots in the third round this draft any day. IMHO Lombardi is the one who is wrong. He did not convince me one bit with his argument.

[BiggMack91]

  1 hour ago, ravens4life86 said:

4 picks in the 1st 80, No reason not to walk away with minimum 3 Starters of 4, and I would even say 4 starter caliber players w/ 4 top 80 picks.

Preferably like this.
Round 1- Franchise Pass Rusher Barnett,TakMcKinley,Harris,Etc

Round 2- CB Tred.White,G.Conley, Kevin King, Tankersely,Tabor etc

Round 3 2 picks Offense-Schuster,Westbrook,Dupree, Kupp, etc

Round 4&5 OL Dan Skipper, McDermott, Zach Banner, Orlovsky

Round 1. Ryan Ramczyk -T- Wisc

Round 2. Tm Williams- OLB-Bamma

Round 3. Ju Ju Smith-Schuster- WR-USC

Round 3. Cam Sutton- CB-Tenn

Round 4. De De Westbrook -WR-Okla

Round 5. Ejuan Price- OLB-Pitt

Round 6. Levon Myers-OT- Northern Illinois

R1- M.Williams
R2- P.Elflein
R3- R.Anderson
R3- S.Jones
R4- Z.Banner
R5- Bug Howard
R6- Greg Pyke

[mendii]

Watch us trade out of that position now.

lol, we will trade with the eagles again and get their 4th round pick.

[52liveforever]

This is why they are getting rid of this forum. The organization doesn't like people not liking their moves. I thought this organization was different from most. I'm about ready to give up on watching the NFL all together.

[BiggMack91]

imo Carl Davis, Willie Henry, Brent Urban and Bronson Kaufusi are all rotational guys at best none are starting caliber Michael Pierce is a solid DL but without a dominate DL we will get pushed around we will regret this trade in October

[rmcjacket23]

  51 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

  1 hour ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

They could at least let Timmy finish out his contract! Smh my day "WAS" good until I read this crap! Smh

Maybe this quick analysis will make you see why this is much more probably gonna end up being a good move than a bad one
 

And if you're familiar with RSR, you know that Tony Lombardy isn't the guy who will defend everything about the Ravens organization's actions.

Sorry bio, I will take a motivated Timmy and his production and a possible 3rd round comp pick next draft over moving up 25 spots in the third round this draft any day. IMHO Lombardi is the one who is wrong. He did not convince me one bit with his argument.

What if the comp pick were a 4th rounder? Does that change it?

I generally agree that the compensation doesn't quite seem like enough, BUT, I'm not sure we should be assuming a 3rd round comp pick either.

[cobrajet]

Hate to see Timmy go....but I think this is a move to possibly snatch up Sidney Jones

If that happens I would change my opinion on this move. Sidney's doctor guarantee he will be ready to play the during 2017 season. I know Eagles fans were hoping that he would make it to them in the third. If we pick him up, some of those fans may not like this trade. I think Jones is going early in the third, so I am not as optimistic.

[bioLarzen]

feels like we should have gotten more, good to move up in the 3rd round though

Feels like that... based on what?

[bioLarzen]

  58 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

  1 hour ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

They could at least let Timmy finish out his contract! Smh my day "WAS" good until I read this crap! Smh

Maybe this quick analysis will make you see why this is much more probably gonna end up being a good move than a bad one
 

And if you're familiar with RSR, you know that Tony Lombardy isn't the guy who will defend everything about the Ravens organization's actions.

Sorry bio, I will take a motivated Timmy and his production and a possible 3rd round comp pick next draft over moving up 25 spots in the third round this draft any day. IMHO Lombardi is the one who is wrong. He did not convince me one bit with his argument.

And how do you know we would have gotten a "motivated" Jernigan in 2017? And how do you know this "motivation" wouldn't have triggered even more boneheaded penalties?

[bioLarzen]

Hate to see Timmy go....but I think this is a move to possibly snatch up Sidney Jones

Most mocks still have Sidney Jones go in the second round.
Well, we all know how far mocks should be trusted, of course... But I agree: I think Sidney Jones won't last into the third round.
Would be great to snatch him though.

[Glen1024]

Wow thought your supposed to buy low and sell high??? Traded a 3rd plus TJ to move up in the same round...smh...we invested a 2nd on timmy just 3 years ago, he's a proven starter and in a contract year at age 24....that 3rd would've been a comp pick anyways if we didn't sign him next year. If that draft pick makes no impact this year then it's a loss, I'd much rather have a hungry starter hunting for that first big pay day then another pick

[purpledown]

good trade for the Ravens. They were not going to resign him so they will get something for him. Should be a valuable player.

[Legendary Ravens]

Something feels odd.. not sure about this move

[Glen1024]

2 minutes ago, purpledown said:

good trade for the Ravens. They were not going to resign him so they will get something for him. Should be a valuable player.

Please tell me what that something was because I can't see it, we gave up a player and a pick to move up...and not just any player but a YOUNG STARTER IN A CONTRACT YEAR....only a great pick at 74 can salvage this one and even then the eagles still get something extra....look at it this way eagles gain proven starter and only swap draft positions, in the 3rd no less to get him it's a win for them regardless

[whobilly]

imo Carl Davis, Willie Henry, Brent Urban and Bronson Kaufusi are all rotational guys at best none are starting caliber Michael Pierce is a solid DL but without a dominate DL we will get pushed around we will regret this trade in October

Jernigan all but disappeared the last half of the season. I think there may be more to this other then they felt they could not resign him.

[CQ1]

You gotta love the NFL more and more every day (sarc); when you finally get a decent pick that progresses- you most of the time lose him. Well fans- keep on buying the jerseys (not). Keep overpaying a mediocre QB while more importantly- raising ticket prices. Yeah, the NFL gets better every day. The next thing you know, we'll be heading to London

[whobilly]

You gotta love the NFL more and more every day (sarc); when you finally get a decent pick that progresses- you most of the time lose him. Well fans- keep on buying the jerseys (not). Keep overpaying a mediocre QB while more importantly- raising ticket prices. Yeah, the NFL gets better every day. The next thing you know, we'll be heading to London

Baltimore has an Arena Football League Team now. You may want to look into that. Royal Farms Arena seems like it would be a great place to watch a game.

[cruyf]

You gotta love the NFL more and more every day (sarc); when you finally get a decent pick that progresses- you most of the time lose him. Well fans- keep on buying the jerseys (not). Keep overpaying a mediocre QB while more importantly- raising ticket prices. Yeah, the NFL gets better every day. The next thing you know, we'll be heading to London

Not too bad, non-QB article only took 48 comments to bring the QB back into it. Nice!

[sticks999]

The NFL needs to change. Here is how it should be done. Every team should get a discount against the cap, for player they drafted. teams should be rewarded for drafting a player, and keeping him. I believe the discount should be 20%, meaning his salary is only an 80% hit against the cap number. This doesn't solve everything, but it gives you an incentive to grow your own players and keep them. That is what a team is about and lends itself to many advantages in fan appreciation as well as community bonding.

[b93333]

Jernigan was headed into a contract year... he would have played hard shooting for big money. He would have then left in free agency like so many others and probably would have turned out to be an overpaid bust with his new team. Question then becomes did we gain or lose by moving up in the 3rd round as compared to one good year out of Jernigan. Only time (and who we get with that pick) will tell.

[MdPride1]

Lol at Ozzie and his third rounders. He loves him some third round picks, yet he has no clue how to use them. Here's to another third string defensive lineman...

Let me remind you he wouldn't trade our third round pick last year for JALEN freaking RAMSEY. Ozzie gonna Ozzie...

[TheConquerorWorm]

  29 minutes ago, purpledown said:

good trade for the Ravens. They were not going to resign him so they will get something for him. Should be a valuable player.

Please tell me what that something was because I can't see it, we gave up a player and a pick to move up...and not just any player but a YOUNG STARTER IN A CONTRACT YEAR....only a great pick at 74 can salvage this one and even then the eagles still get something extra....look at it this way eagles gain proven starter and only swap draft positions, in the 3rd no less to get him it's a win for them regardless

You think a guy that plays 54% of the time is a starter? Albert McLellan played as many snaps at ILB (with Orr & Mosley) as Jernigan did on the D-Line. Aiken played more often than Jernigan. Jernigan was a rotational guy behind STARTERS BWil & Michael Pierce. We're not going to miss a DLman that averages 1 tackle per game.

Plus, have you seen how stacked this draft is? A top pick in the 3rd Round can land a shutdown corner. So, you'd rather have a part-time DLman for 1 year than have a shutdown corner for 4 years?????

[TheConquerorWorm]

  53 minutes ago, cobrajet said:

  1 hour ago, bioLarzen said:

  1 hour ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

They could at least let Timmy finish out his contract! Smh my day "WAS" good until I read this crap! Smh

Maybe this quick analysis will make you see why this is much more probably gonna end up being a good move than a bad one
 

And if you're familiar with RSR, you know that Tony Lombardy isn't the guy who will defend everything about the Ravens organization's actions.

Sorry bio, I will take a motivated Timmy and his production and a possible 3rd round comp pick next draft over moving up 25 spots in the third round this draft any day. IMHO Lombardi is the one who is wrong. He did not convince me one bit with his argument.

What if the comp pick were a 4th rounder? Does that change it?

I generally agree that the compensation doesn't quite seem like enough, BUT, I'm not sure we should be assuming a 3rd round comp pick either.

Yeah, highly doubt it's even a 4th Rounder. Comp picks are based on the salaries of the free agents (plus a few other small factors). Jernigan would have to have one of the top 5 biggest contracts of the off-season to qualify for a 3rd. That means he would have to sign a deal more than Cousins, Bradford, Alshon Jeffery, Kam Chancellor, Terrelle Pryor, Mike Wallace, Edelman, Lacy, etc, etc.

I bet the Eagles don't get much except a 5th or 6th round comp pick, if at all.

[Glen1024]

9 minutes ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

You think a guy that plays 54% of the time is a starter? Albert McLellan played as many snaps at ILB (with Orr & Mosley) as Jernigan did on the D-Line. Aiken played more often than Jernigan. Jernigan was a rotational guy behind STARTERS BWil & Michael Pierce. We're not going to miss a DLman that averages 1 tackle per game.

Plus, have you seen how stacked this draft is? A top pick in the 3rd Round can land a shutdown corner. So, you'd rather have a part-time DLman for 1 year than have a shutdown corner for 4 years?????

So you think giving up a player and a pick to move up a few spots is some type of deal??? Not to mention timmy was a 2nd round pick for us and 3 years later we get less than we spent to pick him and gave up a pick as well. The eagles have won this trade and it's obvious, what did they give up to gain a starter??? Even if you have to trade him (which they didn't) trade him for a pick no need for us to give a pick as well, I'm a big ozzie guy but he seems to be losing it

[Glen1024]

17 minutes ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

You think a guy that plays 54% of the time is a starter? Albert McLellan played as many snaps at ILB (with Orr & Mosley) as Jernigan did on the D-Line. Aiken played more often than Jernigan. Jernigan was a rotational guy behind STARTERS BWil & Michael Pierce. We're not going to miss a DLman that averages 1 tackle per game.

Plus, have you seen how stacked this draft is? A top pick in the 3rd Round can land a shutdown corner. So, you'd rather have a part-time DLman for 1 year than have a shutdown corner for 4 years?????

Shutdown corner in the 3rd really....And moving up a few spots will really make that difference??? Ravens should be looking for that corner in the 1st 

[omar586]

that was a bad trade, a rookie in the 74 pick will not come in play as well as Jernigan, i would have kept him, let him play lights out in a contract year, try to trade him during the season or something, we gave a player and a pick to draft unknown at this point.

Edited April 4 by omar586

[bigcatfrank1]

Jernigan was headed into a contract year... he would have played hard shooting for big money. He would have then left in free agency like so many others and probably would have turned out to be an overpaid bust with his new team. Question then becomes did we gain or lose by moving up in the 3rd round as compared to one good year out of Jernigan. Only time (and who we get with that pick) will tell.

Can we be really sure that the Ravens would get one good year out of TJ, they need to play the guys who look to be playmakers.

It was either keep Williams and look for equalizing moves or keep using the rotation style line but without Williams. Its obvious which direction the Ravens chose after getting Williams at the high end of a deal. TJ was expendable.

One always wonders how deals efect other deals thus will end up 1 to 3 years into the future. One can only speculate. However hands down Williams had the better years.

We will see, Pierce, Urban, Davis, Henry, Kafusi those are some strong names to compare to Tony this year, looks like we will get the chance.

Kind of tough though TJ looked like he is a rising star.

We can only hope we get a little lucky in the Draft, things fall our way and destiny strikes 25 spots earlier.