Edgar Mock four

[Edgar]

ROUND ONE - LINEBACKER, HAASON REDDICK, TEMPLE

Much has already been said about this guy, by myself and by others so I won't gush on too much.

Pair him with CJ, send him on interior blitzes or off the edge on passing downs. The thing is, it will be difficult to know whether he is coming or dropping as he does both well. 

ROUND TWO,  OLB, RYAN ANDERSON, ALABAMA

Rounds one and two reset the course of this defense . Versatile, physical, passionate players who harass opposing quarterbacks and punish ball carriers. 

ROUND THREE, CB, AKHELLO WITHERSPOON, COLORADO

My second favorite corner.....actually if we get him in the third he is definitely my favorite. Uncanny knack for recognizing routes. see him as a guy who won't get burned the same way twice. Always in position, great make up speed.......and...a lousy tackler. Absolutely first round cover talent.

ROUND THREE, ( COMPENSATORY) , WR, RYAN SWITZER, NORTH CAROLINA

A quarterbacks best friend on third down. Great hands, very good after catch....silly quickness to get open. Very productive...

ROUND FOUR, RB, KAREEM HUNT, TOLEDO

Similar to Dixon...but he's a better player on tape to me right now than Dixon ( who I like). 

ROUND FIVE, C, JON TOTH

A guy I like quite a bit ..tough, experienced SEC player. Our starter at the center.

ROUND SIX, CB, CHANNING STRIBLING, MICHIGAN

I'm not hearing one word one about this guy and puzzling . To me, in most drafts he's a third rounder. Long press corner who use length effectively to make up for average speed.

The thingy I love about him is that he turns, finds, and makes plays on the ball. A peeve of mine is a corner that can't do this....and there are a lot of them. 

Pretty slight build but physical and willing in the run game.

[RaineV1]

If Reddick could be taught to be good in coverage (he really didn't have to do it much in college) then he could turn out to be a great pick. I've warmed up to him as an ILB. Not sure if he's what the Ravens will be looking for at the moment, but I'd be okay with the pick.

Anderson could be a good successor to Suggs. I don't think he'll ever be as good as Suggs but he's capable of being an every down edge that can of stop the run, passrush, and disrupt short passes to his side.

Been a fan of Switzer for awhile, though a lot of boards seem to rate him as a late round pick for some reason. For the other third round pick, I just hope someone works with Witherspoon on his tackling. I'm always wary of DBs that can't tackle well.

I'd rather grab Corey Clement as a 4th round RB, though Hunt is a good choice.

Toth would be a great pick.

Stribling is certainly worth taking a late round flyer on.

[JoeyFlex5]

I still like reddick on the edge and Anderson wouldn't be my first choice in the second, especially after taking reddick, but I would love this draft, all the picks are home runs for us 

[Jonah DeVito]

Would be a pretty good looking draft, although if we picked up Reddick I don't think it would be to play ILB. 

[rossihunter2]

42 minutes ago, Jonah DeVito said:

Would be a pretty good looking draft, although if we picked up Reddick I don't think it would be to play ILB. 

yeah exactly - what's the point in picking up reddick to play ilb at 16 given that's not the position he's been playing his entire career and would nullify the best bits of his game

[allblackraven]

I can't see Ravens taking Reddick at #16 to play ILB and I don't think he can cut it as a 34 OLB in pros. I like the player but not for us.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

7 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

I can't see Ravens taking Reddick at #16 to play ILB and I don't think he can cut it as a 34 OLB in pros. I like the player but not for us.

Why don't you think he could play OLB?

 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I like every player picked in this Mock so I'd be happy if this were the haul we came away with. 

Love Witherspoon... as far as value goes he's become my favorite CB prospect in the draft. I think he's a day 1 contributor with potential to be shut down. 

I like Switzer but not at that pick. I'd prob prefer an OL player there depending on who's available. Maybe Jordan Morgan from Kutztown... def Elflein if available though that'd change the Toth pick. 

Maybe Cooper Kupp is still available end of 3rd... in which case I'd prefer that as a like for like swap. 

Also am a fan of Toth. In terms of fit I have him as my 2nd pure C prospect behind only Elflein. 

Also not a fan of going RB there if players at another position with a similar grade are available. If we're not taking a stud RB early (Fournette 1st or maybe Cook/McCaffery/Mixon 2nd) which are very unlikely to be available and/or on our board than I'd only want to take a gamebreaker, niche type RB late (Pumphrey, Tarik Cohen, Jahad Thomas)... though I wouldn't hate Conner from Pitt if available in the 5th. 

But im nitpicking with personal preferences. Overall solid and realistic. 

[allblackraven]

9 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Why don't you think he could play OLB?

 

I feel like he's not big/strong enough to do it vs NFL tackles consistently. Might cut it as a situational pass rusher relying on speed but why spend 16th on that if there are better guys available? 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

34 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

I feel like he's not big/strong enough to do it vs NFL tackles consistently. Might cut it as a situational pass rusher relying on speed but why spend 16th on that if there are better guys available? 

He's only 7 lbs lighter than Tim Williams who was effective against SEC size all year long. 

In fairness at 6'1" he's got less of a frame to pack on to but he could add weight. 

But his lower body explosion is off the charts which can do more than brute strength and he's not exactly shabby in that department either. 

It's not the best measure but his 24 reps on the bench were toward the higher end of the average spectrum for DL at the combine... let alone LB's. 

 

He might struggle if tackles get their mits on him but that's assuming they'll be able to. He's explosive, fast, changes direction on a dime, is a dog, relentless and can play under a coffee table. 

I don't think he'll be a hand in the dirt guy engaging the edge every play... but if you put him out in space standing up I think he can be a very good OLB. I mean we had McLellan playing OLB a lot on early downs last year. 

 

Hes also about the same size at Vic Beasley who led the league in sacks this past year. 

Reddick could be an ultimate chess piece in our hybrid front.... especially if you gain some fluid interchangeability between be and Correa where they could be out OLB's in a 4-3 look or where either could line up as the ILB or OLB in 3-4 looks. 

 

Theres other directions id go before Reddick but I think he can bring you high end pass rush productivity with the athleticism to also do a number of other things well in time... covering TEs/RBs/slot receivers, hunt ball carriers, cover a zone, spy mobile QBs, or as a blitz weapon shooting gaps. 

Edited April 3 by BOLDnPurPnBlacK

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Successful pass rushers that are currently about the same size as Reddick or came into the NFL his size and are still within 10 lbs....

Vic Beasley

Melvin Ingram

Shane Ray

Leonard Floyd

 

And then guys like Khalil Mack and Von Miller are 250. 

With an NFL program it's feasible Reddick goes from 238 to 245-250 without losing explosion and function. 

I think the whole size thing is a bit overrated. You hardly ever hear it with Tim Williams and we're talking like a 5 lb difference.... with Reddick having superior explosion. 

[Somerset Ravens]

I would be disappointed if this was our draft as I do not see good value with the first two picks. I like Ryan Anderson but taking him with the 48th pick is quite a reach. I do have concern over Reddick's size but the bigger issue to me is his tackling. According to Pro Football Focus last season Reddick missed 15 of 76 attempted tackles and over three seasons missed 28 of 150 attempts. I would be surprised if that improves much against a higher level of competition in the NFL. A linebacker with tackling problems is not where I want to use the  16th pick.

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, allblackraven said:

I feel like he's not big/strong enough to do it vs NFL tackles consistently. Might cut it as a situational pass rusher relying on speed but why spend 16th on that if there are better guys available? 

Just admit it, the only acceptable OLBs for you are Tim Williams and Ryan Anderson because reasons...

[rossihunter2]

25 minutes ago, Somerset Ravens said:

I would be disappointed if this was our draft as I do not see good value with the first two picks. I like Ryan Anderson but taking him with the 48th pick is quite a reach. I do have concern over Reddick's size but the bigger issue to me is his tackling. According to Pro Football Focus last season Reddick missed 15 of 76 attempted tackles and over three seasons missed 28 of 150 attempts. I would be surprised if that improves much against a higher level of competition in the NFL. A linebacker with tackling problems is not where I want to use the  16th pick.

I don't think Anderson is a reach at all at 47 - he's a dynamic playmaker at the 3-4 olb spot both in coverage and off the edge - he has some good rush potential, great leadership, an obvious passion for the game, relentlessness

hed be a wonderful addition to our defence and would definitely be worthy of our 2nd round pick - early in the process I even had a 1st round grade on him 

[allblackraven]

2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Just admit it, the only acceptable OLBs for you are Tim Williams and Ryan Anderson because reasons...

No, I said it before - other than Bama guys I like Barnett (no shot at him), Takk, Harris and Lawson. I'd rather have any of those guys than Reddick.

[JoeyFlex5]

3 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

No, I said it before - other than Bama guys I like Barnett (no shot at him), Takk, Harris and Lawson. I'd rather have any of those guys than Reddick.

Just foolin m8. I like to poke fun at your obvious Bama bias but I know you know your stuff lol

[allblackraven]

2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Just foolin m8. I like to poke fun at your obvious Bama bias but I know you know your stuff lol

Wouldn't it be nice if Ozzie took Williams and Anderson in first two rounds? Keep combo going for 10+ years.

[allblackraven]

34 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Just foolin m8. I like to poke fun at your obvious Bama bias but I know you know your stuff lol

New one on the radar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_7U5TXCGbo

 

[JoeyFlex5]

13 hours ago, allblackraven said:

New one on the radar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_7U5TXCGbo

 

That video shows excellent football ability

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

17 hours ago, allblackraven said:

Wouldn't it be nice if Ozzie took Williams and Anderson in first two rounds? Keep combo going for 10+ years.

Imagine if Foster falls to us and we got him in the 1st, Williams in the 2nd and Anderson in the 3rd. 

We could have an all Bama LB corps for the next 5-10 years.