Prediction vs preference poll

[ravensnation5220]

Choose who you think we will pick then choose who you would want us to pick. Pretty self explanatory. Let's see how well we can predict our ravens and how good they are at making their fan base happy with their selection 😊

Note: when making your prediction remember this. 

If you do not see a realistic chance of a certain player being available like Barnett, Howard, Foster, and Mike Williams. 

Then PLEASE take that into account when making your PREDICTION. That's part of the prediction is being realistic. If you truly believe they will be available and we won't pass up then go ahead and make that prediction. 

 

[ravensnation5220]

Who I think we take:

Cam Robinson- he solidifies our oline and brings a nastiness to our run game. Gets us bigger and stronger in the trenches. 

Who I want us to take:

Oj Howard- he's probably the safest prospect in this class and probably has the most upside at the same time. Howard will be an all pro and could become the best tight end in the NFL. Although I don't think he will be available when we pick

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I went Cam with what i think, and Barnett with who i want.

[ravensnation5220]

I think everyone will go with Barnett as the want pick. I went with Howard just to change it up a bit 

[JoeyFlex5]

I took cam as the likely, and Barnett as the one I want, but I don't think Barnett is there, in which case I would want Tim Williams who I really think is an elite talent

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

9 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I took cam as the likely, and Barnett as the one I want, but I don't think Barnett is there, in which case I would want Tim Williams who I really think is an elite talent

Precisely my thoughts as well. Barnett wish list... Tim Williams realistic wish list... Cam is my guess though.

Other unrealistic wishes before i take TWill are Foster and MWill.

[allblackraven]

Ravens: Takk McKinley
Me: Tim Williams

[ravensnation5220]

Just now, allblackraven said:

Ravens: Takk McKinley
Me: Tim Williams

I'm surprised you'd have them take takk. Especially after his shoulder surgery

[PurpleHorseman]

3 hours ago, allblackraven said:

Ravens: Takk McKinley
Me: Tim Williams

I like Tim Williams as well. Right now by an eyelash over Lawson. That could eventually change cuz i like Lawson a lot as well. I think Williams ends up a 260lb rush lb once he grows and fills his adult frame out. One that can rush the QB like a rocket as well as cover zones and Running backs and TE's. His explosion is there with Von Miller and Khalil Macks. Would be ideal for him to learn from Terrell Suggs. I think he has far better natural skill than McKinley Harris and Barnett. Once he is coached and polished he will be that edge rusher we need that can get into the QB in a blink.

[ravensnation5220]

4 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

I like Tim Williams as well. Right now by an eyelash over Lawson. That could eventually change cuz i like Lawson a lot as well. I think Williams ends up a 260lb rush lb once he grows and fills his adult frame out. One that can rush the QB like a rocket as well as cover zones and Running backs and TE's. His explosion is there with Von Miller and Khalil Macks. Would be ideal for him to learn from Terrell Suggs. I think he has far better natural skill than McKinley Harris and Barnett. Once he is coached and polished he will be that edge rusher we need that can get into the QB in a blink.

Ya I always kinda forget he has room to grow to max out his frame. He has the most upside of really any of them and the best hand usage

[Dubs]

predicted: Corey Davis

preference: Forrest Lamp

I really hope we have Lamp higher than Cam Robinson on our boards. As a G I think Lamp is better and as a RT I think he would be better too. If I recall correctly Yanda started his career at RT for us and was pushed inside when we had the chance, I think Lamp could follow a similar path. Like Yanda I feel they just both get the job done and position on the line likely would not change their play as much as some guys

[Jonah DeVito]

I'm surprised no one is picking Mike Williams as their want. He's definitely up there for me. 

[ravensnation5220]

9 minutes ago, Jonah DeVito said:

I'm surprised no one is picking Mike Williams as their want. He's definitely up there for me. 

I know me too honestly. Especially with the amount of people here who really like him. I'm also the only one who wants oj Howard lol

[PurpleHorseman]

21 minutes ago, Dubs said:

predicted: Corey Davis

preference: Forrest Lamp

I really hope we have Lamp higher than Cam Robinson on our boards. As a G I think Lamp is better and as a RT I think he would be better too. If I recall correctly Yanda started his career at RT for us and was pushed inside when we had the chance, I think Lamp could follow a similar path. Like Yanda I feel they just both get the job done and position on the line likely would not change their play as much as some guys

I like Davis and Lamp a lot. Lamp is very similar to Yanda. With Lamp the skills ravens young line would be coming together with anchors Stanley Lamp and Lewis. Lamp can play any position on the line including RT and Center. Only knock on lamp is he doesn't have much growing room. Many young lineman are young adults and growing. His frame is maxed at 6'4 310. Many lineman grow a little. Lamp doesn't have a big frame for growing any. But 310/315 is plenty big enough. Because he is already strong and nasty.

Ad much as I like Lamp. I would trade that pick for Lael Collins.  Longer than Lamp and slightly bigger. He could be an all pro RT. If he didn't play with Tyron he could be a pro bowl LT. He totally dominated many highly touted edge rushers in the SEC. Dude is strong and nasty with athleticism and top shelf technique and understanding of blocking. I know that isn't a ravens move but would favor that move over any draft pick. Because Cam is a real option at 16. And Collins is far better than cam! Collins Stanley and Lewis would give us young anchors for a dominant offensive line that would be as good as any O-line in the league. But I would like Lamp as well

[raven94]

1 hour ago, ravensnation5220 said:

I know me too honestly. Especially with the amount of people here who really like him. I'm also the only one who wants oj Howard lol

I wanted Howard, MWill, and Barnett. Alas, I can only pick one. I really envy the team's that have multiple firsts this year

[allblackraven]

2 hours ago, Jonah DeVito said:

I'm surprised no one is picking Mike Williams as their want. He's definitely up there for me. 

There is just no way he is available at #16, that's why I didn't take him.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

2 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

I know me too honestly. Especially with the amount of people here who really like him. I'm also the only one who wants oj Howard lol

I want Mike Williams and OJ just not my top choice. 

Barnett is first and then a toss up between Foster and Williams. And wouldn't be at all disappointed with Howard. 

I think any one of them would net us a premier player at their position that will be here 10 years. 

Edited April 1 by BOLDnPurPnBlacK

[Jonah DeVito]

1 hour ago, allblackraven said:

There is just no way he is available at #16, that's why I didn't take him.

I never said he would be available, but that doesn't mean I can't be surprised because people aren't picking him as their preference, not prediction. 

[allblackraven]

Just now, Jonah DeVito said:

I never said he would be available, but that doesn't mean I can't be surprised because people aren't picking him as their preference, not prediction. 

Well, personal preference should be realistic, too. I wouldn't mind Myles Garrett either.

[Jonah DeVito]

4 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Well, personal preference should be realistic, too. I wouldn't mind Myles Garrett either.

Well 1. Garrett isn't on the poll and 2. There is a chance (all be it pretty slim) that Williams falls to us, unlike Garrett. 

[PurpleHorseman]

I think you guys are miscalculating a little. Howard could likely go before any of WRs. Like he is top 10 or better. Especially with no top shelf WR that checks all the boxes. Then Barnett is going to be there at 16. He is. I hope not but he is. I know mostly everybody here he heads up your wish lists. So you guys will like how round one unfolds. 

If Foster is there at 16 I would uncork my 75 yr old brandy before the pick is official! 

[PurpleHorseman]

1 minute ago, Jonah DeVito said:

Well 1. Garrett isn't on the poll and 2. There is a chance (all be it pretty slim) that Williams falls to us, unlike Garrett. 

Actually a pretty realistic but not great chance mike Williams is there. He tested bad for a contested ball winner style WR. I think very slim chance Davis is there. A 6'3 WR that can separate, cut without gearing down and has a legit extra gear like a smaller receiver as well as win contested catches  Is going to be popular on draft day regardless of his school

[RaineV1]

4 hours ago, Jonah DeVito said:

I'm surprised no one is picking Mike Williams as their want. He's definitely up there for me. 

I just don't think he'll be anywhere near pick 16. Though I'd run up to the podium to pick him if he still is. I went with Barnett as the preference since I could potentially see him sliding to our pick. Really, any of Barnett, Mike Williams, or Corey Davis would be a no brainer.

[ravensnation5220]

Our predictions are all over the place lol. 

[ravensnation5220]

Nobody wants Cam Robinson lol

[raven94]

8 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Nobody wants Cam Robinson lol

I think nobody wants Cam if people think one of the other "great" prospects is there at 16. I wouldn't have too many qualms with Cam at 16 (prefer him in a trade back), but if MWill is there, or O.J. or Barnett then I'm taking those guys. Personally I picked MWill for the want

[JoeyFlex5]

9 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Nobody wants Cam Robinson lol

i do, just not my most preferred. 

honestly, cam scares me because of our coaching staff. he has a lot of work to do before becoming a starting OT, and with harbaugh being so damn insistent on alex lewis being some stud guard, which i disagree with, then Cams fit on this line is concerning. what is the best move? obviously putting cam at LG and Lewis at RT, no matter how uncomfortable lewis may have looked at OT last year the upgrade cam would bring on the inside is a far bigger upgrade to the entire line than having cam at RT and lewis at LG. also consider the big bunch of nothingness we have at RT right now, lewis appears to be easily the best option, and lewis may very well be a better option than cam there. unless lewis is an absolute liability at RT then i dont see how that isnt a massive upgrade to the line

[PurpleHorseman]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

i do, just not my most preferred. 

honestly, cam scares me because of our coaching staff. he has a lot of work to do before becoming a starting OT, and with harbaugh being so damn insistent on alex lewis being some stud guard, which i disagree with, then Cams fit on this line is concerning. what is the best move? obviously putting cam at LG and Lewis at RT, no matter how uncomfortable lewis may have looked at OT last year the upgrade cam would bring on the inside is a far bigger upgrade to the entire line than having cam at RT and lewis at LG. also consider the big bunch of nothingness we have at RT right now, lewis appears to be easily the best option, and lewis may very well be a better option than cam there. unless lewis is an absolute liability at RT then i dont see how that isnt a massive upgrade to the line

I  would like Cam Robinson as well. He has a lot of coaching up to do. But much of his problems is technique that is easy to fix. Some of his deficiencies will take many reps in practice to fix. But enough of his technique could be upgraded to play RT week one and do an ok job while steadily getting better.

Lewis I believe could play RT eventually and play respectable. However I do agree with Harbaugh that Lewis is going to be a pro bowl caliber guard. Lewis is one of top breakout candidates. I'm not sure how old Lewis is. But maybe he is younger than thought? Harbaugh said he grew and is bigger and stronger. And has an intense desire to be great. And promised to be a pro bowl level guard. He looked bigger in that article pic. Young and  Definitely looks like he is not done growing yet. Lewis really understands blocking positioning and angles very natural.

I like Lamp better but Cam has upside. He could be an all pro guard or even Tackle once he irons out his flaws. He is so naturally strong. And he has the balance to better his movement skills. Stanley Lewis and Cam are some really good building blocks. When Cam plays Barnett in the NFL. He will yield a different result when his technique catches up to Barnett's.

[Italian Raven]

No need to say who my prederence is.. I guess that if I write his name a few more times and I'm getting banned for spam 😄

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, PurpleHorseman said:

I  would like Cam Robinson as well. He has a lot of coaching up to do. But much of his problems is technique that is easy to fix. Some of his deficiencies will take many reps in practice to fix. But enough of his technique could be upgraded to play RT week one and do an ok job while steadily getting better.

Lewis I believe could play RT eventually and play respectable. However I do agree with Harbaugh that Lewis is going to be a pro bowl caliber guard. Lewis is one of top breakout candidates. I'm not sure how old Lewis is. But maybe he is younger than thought? Harbaugh said he grew and is bigger and stronger. And has an intense desire to be great. And promised to be a pro bowl level guard. He looked bigger in that article pic. Young and  Definitely looks like he is not done growing yet. Lewis really understands blocking positioning and angles very natural.

I like Lamp better but Cam has upside. He could be an all pro guard or even Tackle once he irons out his flaws. He is so naturally strong. And he has the balance to better his movement skills. Stanley Lewis and Cam are some really good building blocks. When Cam plays Barnett in the NFL. He will yield a different result when his technique catches up to Barnett's.

i just dont like lewis as a run blocker if we really are moving away from the ZBS, i like him in the zone a lot but i just dont like his drive blocking due to his weak leverage.