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[whobilly]

Key Offseason Losses Lewis and Wright?

[Bat-mite]

"The Ravens are only looking for one receiver." Huh? Do they just mean one "veteran" receiver?

[trevorsteadman]

25 minutes ago, whobilly said:

Key Offseason Losses Lewis and Wright?

Wright was a huge piece last year in Jimmy Smith's absence and did a decent job but definitely not as good as many expected. Kendrick Lewis was a good special teams player and a good #3 safety. I would definitely have them as key offseason losses. Two big spots that need to be filled. Looks like Carr will replace Wright but still remains to be unseen who will be the #3 safety.

[bioLarzen]

"The Ravens are only looking for one receiver." Huh? Do they just mean one "veteran" receiver?

That's what I would think. As I remember, what Harbaugh said sounded to mean "it's only one receiver we really need from the veteran market".

[bioLarzen]

Hmmm... looking at the adopted rule changes...

"Make actions to conserve time illegal after the two-minute warning warning of either half"

Does that include spiking the ball? The only goal of spiking the ball is literally to conserve time...

Or stepping out of bounds?

OK, this latter was a joke. But the first one is interesting.

Edited March 29 by bioLarzen

[ByTheBay]

So are there more changes coming before the season starts to address the issue that fans are losing interest in the NFL? Are they going to be tweaks that Roger will decide and don't need to be voted on?

[Dedicated Raven]

1 hour ago, Bat-mite said:

"The Ravens are only looking for one receiver." Huh? Do they just mean one "veteran" receiver?

That was my take on it as well.

[steelcityraven]

Is it possible that Waller is moving back to WR? He is slimmer then last year and with the depth that we have at TE and the need we have at WR... this seems like a logical move?

[Moderator 3]

26 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Hmmm... looking at the adopted rule changes...

"Make actions to conserve time illegal after the two-minute warning warning of either half"

Does that include spiking the ball? The only goal of spiking the ball is literally to conserve time...

Or stepping out of bounds?

OK, this latter was a joke. But the first one is interesting.

I'm very curious about this, too.  I've seen no clarification on exactly what this is about.

[trevorsteadman]

27 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Hmmm... looking at the adopted rule changes...

"Make actions to conserve time illegal after the two-minute warning warning of either half"

Does that include spiking the ball? The only goal of spiking the ball is literally to conserve time...

Or stepping out of bounds?

OK, this latter was a joke. But the first one is interesting.

Stop breaking the NFL

[Moderator 3]

1 minute ago, trevorsteadman said:

Stop breaking the NFL

Seriously.  Conserving time is the heart and soul of the 2 minute drill.  This sounds like a fundamental change to how the game is played.

[fusuymada]

With all those tight ends one would think we would try to trade one of those for an offensive lineman or wide receiver. However, other than Pitta, none of them really amounted to much last year, Watson had one great year but has just been good outside his break out year with the Saints two years ago, Williams was another wasted high round draft pick, Like someone else commented, maybe Waller is that big guy who can be "Boldin-Like" at wide receiver and as Harbaugh said, Boyle could be utilized as a fullback. Move Waller to WR, ditch Williams and Pitta, Watson, Boyle and Gilmore could all make the team taking into consideration that PItta can still be fragile, Watson is recovering from an achilles tear, Gilmore has never been reliable and hopefully Boyle stays away from PEDs. Because of all those TEs with their own personal issues, you almost have to keep all four and maybe even Williams too.

[The Beak]

Trade T Jernigan to Dolphins for Devante Parker need solved...

[steelcityraven]

Round 1. Takkarist McKinley - OLB-UCLA
Round 2. Cam Robinson- T- Bamma
Round 3. Jalen Myrick- CB- Minn
Round 3. De De Westbrook - WR- Okla
Round 4. Noah Brown- WR- Ohio St
Round 5. Ejuan Price- OLB- Pitt
Round 6. Kareem Are- OG/T - FSU

[The Mom Gene]

  1 hour ago, bioLarzen said:

Hmmm... looking at the adopted rule changes...

"Make actions to conserve time illegal after the two-minute warning warning of either half"

Does that include spiking the ball? The only goal of spiking the ball is literally to conserve time...

Or stepping out of bounds?

OK, this latter was a joke. But the first one is interesting.

I'm very curious about this, too.  I've seen no clarification on exactly what this is about.

I'm thinking it's players that are staying down on the field and going out "with an injury" in order to stop the clock. Intentional stuff like that.

[The Mom Gene]

Key Offseason Losses Lewis and Wright?

Yes, Kendrick Lewis and Shareece Wright... BUT they did forget Lardarius Webb too.

[budman]

6 minutes ago, The Mom Gene said:

Yes, Kendrick Lewis and Shareece Wright... BUT they did forget Lardarius Webb too.

 I heard that Shareece Wright was reprising Chris Evans role as "Torched" in the next Fantastic 4 movie.

[The Mom Gene]

16 minutes ago, budman said:

 I heard that Shareece Wright was reprising Chris Evans role as "Torched" in the next Fantastic 4 movie.

LOL.... 

[rmcjacket23]

Trade T Jernigan to Dolphins for Devante Parker need solved...

Well, except that doesn't benefit the Dolphins very much...

[robbie29]

Hmmm... looking at the adopted rule changes...

"Make actions to conserve time illegal after the two-minute warning warning of either half"

Does that include spiking the ball? The only goal of spiking the ball is literally to conserve time...

Or stepping out of bounds?

OK, this latter was a joke. But the first one is interesting.

Indeed...this is yet another example of very vague/unclear wording of the rules that I anticipate will lead to a lot of confusion and controversy.

[robbie29]

1 hour ago, steelcityraven said:

Is it possible that Waller is moving back to WR? He is slimmer then last year and with the depth that we have at TE and the need we have at WR... this seems like a logical move?

I'd say keep him at TE. While there is depth at TE, I certainly wouldn't call it reliable depth. Watson, Maxx, Crockett, and Pitta are all injury question marks. Boyle is just one more bad PED decision away from getting kicked off the team. Many unknowns with our current TE group....

Edited March 29 by robbie29

[mendii]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's actually an exciting thing for Harbaugh to come out and express confidence in KC to take over the middle spot. I don't remember ever hearing that praise for Arthur Brown. What I do remember is Harbaugh saying similar things about Zach Orr last year to the collective groans of Ravens fans everywhere (including me), but that turned out pretty well.

[steelcityraven]

With all those tight ends one would think we would try to trade one of those for an offensive lineman or wide receiver. However, other than Pitta, none of them really amounted to much last year, Watson had one great year but has just been good outside his break out year with the Saints two years ago, Williams was another wasted high round draft pick, Like someone else commented, maybe Waller is that big guy who can be "Boldin-Like" at wide receiver and as Harbaugh said, Boyle could be utilized as a fullback. Move Waller to WR, ditch Williams and Pitta, Watson, Boyle and Gilmore could all make the team taking into consideration that PItta can still be fragile, Watson is recovering from an achilles tear, Gilmore has never been reliable and hopefully Boyle stays away from PEDs. Because of all those TEs with their own personal issues, you almost have to keep all four and maybe even Williams too.

Watson brings talent and experience to the team... and while he is not a Gronk - he is solid and productive. (a more athletic version of Owen Daniels)

Pitta is solid with good hands and a security blanket for Joe... (while his movement is limited and he gets zero yards after the catch- he still has a value- not what we are paying him but he is still valuable to us)

Gilmore- can be a great blocking TE and was developing into a legit rec threat before he got injured. If he can re-gain his form and continue to show progression... he can be good but his mouth has put a lot of pressure on him.

Maxx... has the physical tools and raw talent but needed to get his body strong enough to compete in the NFL. He was not there when we drafted him and got away with relying on his size too much in college. He has had two years now to develop his body and I am curious what he will bring to the table this year.

Nick Boyle- seems to be a baby Gronk style (minus some of the talent and natural ability) - nevertheless... Boyle can still be productive in this league but his PED issues make it hard to trust him moving forward. Maybe he will see time as an HBack or even at Full back but if not... Boyle may be a training camp cut.

Darren Waller... showed glimpses of potential last season. He is such an athlete and with freakish size and speed that I can see why we were tempted to make that move to TE with him. Especially in the Red zone and short yardage - he is hard to stop. With that said... we are really deep at TE and not so deep at WR... I think that Waller has a place on this team and that he can be most effective for us at WR... move him back to WR and move forward with Watson, Pitta, Gilmore and Maxx at TE. Run more two TE sets and make Boyle our HBack and Waller a WR. if we have an injury at TE we can always move one of them back.

whatever we do... do not draft howard.

[TheConquerorWorm]

  2 hours ago, bioLarzen said:

Hmmm... looking at the adopted rule changes...

"Make actions to conserve time illegal after the two-minute warning warning of either half"

Does that include spiking the ball? The only goal of spiking the ball is literally to conserve time...

Or stepping out of bounds?

OK, this latter was a joke. But the first one is interesting.

I'm very curious about this, too.  I've seen no clarification on exactly what this is about.

This basically is changing the "10 second run-off" when the offense commits a foul (illegal sub, false start, etc). This foul could only be called when under 1 minute of play. Now it changes to under 2 minutes of play.

Nothing changes except for when the officials can enforce the penalty.

[PersianRaven]

  5 hours ago, Bat-mite said:

"The Ravens are only looking for one receiver." Huh? Do they just mean one "veteran" receiver?

That's what I would think. As I remember, what Harbaugh said sounded to mean "it's only one receiver we really need from the veteran market".

Yep, all we need is Q and we should be set. He won a SB with us so once he walks back in the locker room, players will follow his leadership. We need to let our youngins develop. Darren Waller is a beast! We just don't know what to do with him. Boyle and Maxx got a lot of talent, but just like Waller, our offensive coaches are clueless as to how to use them. Breshard is on the right track barring injuries Wallace will only get more comfortable here in his 2nd season. Moore has talent and speed and should be fine in his second year too. Dixon and West are just fine as well. We just need one vet WR.

[RavensBaltimore]

  4 hours ago, Moderator 3 said:

  4 hours ago, bioLarzen said:

Hmmm... looking at the adopted rule changes...

"Make actions to conserve time illegal after the two-minute warning warning of either half"

Does that include spiking the ball? The only goal of spiking the ball is literally to conserve time...

Or stepping out of bounds?

OK, this latter was a joke. But the first one is interesting.

I'm very curious about this, too.  I've seen no clarification on exactly what this is about.

This basically is changing the "10 second run-off" when the offense commits a foul (illegal sub, false start, etc). This foul could only be called when under 1 minute of play. Now it changes to under 2 minutes of play.

Nothing changes except for when the officials can enforce the penalty.

Where did you hear that?

[steelcityraven]

  5 hours ago, bioLarzen said:

  6 hours ago, Bat-mite said:

"The Ravens are only looking for one receiver." Huh? Do they just mean one "veteran" receiver?

That's what I would think. As I remember, what Harbaugh said sounded to mean "it's only one receiver we really need from the veteran market".

Yep, all we need is Q and we should be set. He won a SB with us so once he walks back in the locker room, players will follow his leadership. We need to let our youngins develop. Darren Waller is a beast! We just don't know what to do with him. Boyle and Maxx got a lot of talent, but just like Waller, our offensive coaches are clueless as to how to use them. Breshard is on the right track barring injuries Wallace will only get more comfortable here in his 2nd season. Moore has talent and speed and should be fine in his second year too. Dixon and West are just fine as well. We just need one vet WR.

If we add Q-

That gives us Mike Wallace, Boldin, Perriman, Moore and Campanaro
We draft say a De De Westbrook or a Ju Ju Smtih Schuster in the 3rd round and then maybe a KD Cannon or a Speedy Knoll in the 5th or 6th round and all of a sudden we really do have a diverse mix of speed and possession WRs with veritable skillsets allowing Marty to create mismatches all over the field. Plus the mix of youth and experience would be ideal for now and in the future.

We really may only need one veteran WR... (if we pick up another one or 2 legit WRs in the draft)

[steelcityraven]

  2 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  5 hours ago, Moderator 3 said:

  5 hours ago, bioLarzen said:

Hmmm... looking at the adopted rule changes...

"Make actions to conserve time illegal after the two-minute warning warning of either half"

Does that include spiking the ball? The only goal of spiking the ball is literally to conserve time...

Or stepping out of bounds?

OK, this latter was a joke. But the first one is interesting.

I'm very curious about this, too.  I've seen no clarification on exactly what this is about.

This basically is changing the "10 second run-off" when the offense commits a foul (illegal sub, false start, etc). This foul could only be called when under 1 minute of play. Now it changes to under 2 minutes of play.

Nothing changes except for when the officials can enforce the penalty.

Where did you hear that?

Typical NFL... everything they do seems to make the game more ambiguous and confusing and then they wonder why they are losing viewership. They change the OT rules to shorten overtime bc (in their justification the games are too long) so you shorten OT?

That probably effects less then 10% of all NFL games... which will probably result in more ties (which nobody likes) and more confusion.

They shorten the game by making the 10 second run off applicable for the final two minutes instead of the final 1 minute. So we shorten 1 more minute of a 60 minute game (and only in specific situations) and at what cost? The benefit is not worth the risk of how this impacts that game! SMH

Then the player celebrations are now at the referees discretion? The players (and refs) were not clear on the rules before- this just muddies the water even more!

Finally the ejections for targeting has been added. It is already hard enough to play defense now players (teams) have to worry about losing players based off of a judgment call.

Yea that will not have an impact on the integrity of the game????
Somebody who has actually played this game needs to sit in these owners meetings and somebody who has actually played this game needs to have more of a voice with Roger Goddell before this turns into flag football with very unclear and uncertain rules.

They think viewership is dropping now. Lets confuse the players, refs and fans more. Lets toss their favorite players out of games for making plays and see teams lose bc they had key players DQd on a judgment call. Lets move some more teams from their original fan bases and create more of a sense of uncertainty in the small markets. Lets hold cities hostage with the threat of moves and expect everyone to be okay with this. Lets chase the big money now - without regard to how it impacts the NFL 5 or 10 years from now. Lets have games in London, Mexico and anywhere else that will increase temporary sales and in the process water down the game more...

Time for Goddell to go!

[letitgosometimes]

Lower the prices of beer at the stadium - it is going to be a long season.