To anyone who doesn't truly value a good RT

[IceUpSon89]

For years LT was considered the harder position to play. Most people on this planet are right handed which means that most QBs are. So when I QB drops back, his back is to the left side. But nowadays, elite rushers rush from the right side with the knowledge that the RT isn't as athletic and can't stop them. Don't believe me, then go watch von millers top 10 plays of 2016. 10 plays. 10 sacks. All RTs. This is the reason I would be ok if Baltimore drafted a tackle round 1 or 2. It isn't ideal. Ideally we get a stud out of a 5th rounder, but if we want to be successful, joe has to be upright and that means getting a quality RT

[rossihunter2]

I don't think anyone's against the idea of drafting a first round tackle per se - I think it's more that there aren't any first round tackles that seem worth the 16th pick in the draft or who would be the BPA at any point 

[RaineV1]

9 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

I don't think anyone's against the idea of drafting a first round tackle per se - I think it's more that there aren't any first round tackles that seem worth the 16th pick in the draft or who would be the BPA at any point 

Yep. I'm all for shoring up the o-line and making a great o-line a top priority. But I just don't see a tackle worth picking at 16. If we went o-line in the first I'd want to trade back for Feeney or Lamp.

[Tru11]

Von Miller is just 1 player on 1 team that is not even in our division.

Drafting a RT in round 1 or 2 just to consider him is crazy tbh.

Not to mention with Stanley being pretty darn good , we can easily give the RT all the help he needs to slow any pass rusher from that side down.

 

[sflegend89]

The OT class just isn't very good this year. With at least one of Mike Williams, Ross, Barnett, Foster, Cook, Humphrey, Charlton, Conley ect likely still on the board why reach for need? I don't feel nearly as safe with say Cam Robinson, drafting for need so high in the draft is never a good idea.

Edited March 27 by sflegend89

[JoeyFlex5]

It's far more important to have a strong interior than a RT. Teams just happen to know this and try to exploit the right tackle, but that doesn't mean you should over invest. 

The reason the RT is the least important is because despite often seeing the best rushers there, it's the easiest rush to avoid as a qb. If you have a strong left and interior you can easily step up to avoid the right side rush and see it coming better, you don't have that luxury from literally any other rusher across the front seven.

[Jacquouille]

While I agree with the above, I do think Cam might be the BPA at 16 in some cases and I would be truly glad to have him. With Joe it's definitely more important to have an elite OL than an elite WR corps, so double dipping on the OL in the first 3 rounds isn't out of the question at all if you ask me.

[IceUpSon89]

I guess we will see. It's not just von. Simply used him as an example. I'm not saying we can't get by with a below average RT. But if we don't have someone step up, it will be a rough year for joe. Claiming he can just "avoid" the rush from the right side is wishful thinking. Joe loves to roll out right on play action passes. Can't do that with a pass rusher in your face every play b/c you put a sandbag in at RT. All I'm saying is that Baltimore needs to get a damn good player at RT. If we don't, you will all be clamoring for a RT next year too as we also likely have to draft Yandas future replacement. Like I said, I would love to get a stud in later rounds. Our amazing 2014 line only had 1 first rounder on it. That was Monroe and he was the worst out of all of them. I just think a solid line is Baltimore's ticket back to the playoffs. 

[ravensnation5220]

I mentioned him on the Oline thread but Mitchell Kirsch is a guy to keep your eye on. He was a first team all FCS right tackle for JMU. Could be a late round option for us or maybe undrafted guy. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

5 hours ago, IceUpSon89 said:

I guess we will see. It's not just von. Simply used him as an example. I'm not saying we can't get by with a below average RT. But if we don't have someone step up, it will be a rough year for joe. Claiming he can just "avoid" the rush from the right side is wishful thinking. Joe loves to roll out right on play action passes. Can't do that with a pass rusher in your face every play b/c you put a sandbag in at RT. All I'm saying is that Baltimore needs to get a damn good player at RT. If we don't, you will all be clamoring for a RT next year too as we also likely have to draft Yandas future replacement. Like I said, I would love to get a stud in later rounds. Our amazing 2014 line only had 1 first rounder on it. That was Monroe and he was the worst out of all of them. I just think a solid line is Baltimore's ticket back to the playoffs. 

Well its also not black and white... 1st round pick or roll out some bum.

You can get adequate or even very good RT play from a number of means. I mean, we got Wagner from a mid round pick and he was among the best RT's in the league his first year starting.

The coaching staff really like Wesley and Nembot. Whether they really like them as starters, or still just really like their potential development remains to be seen.

There are some decent RT prospects that should be available rounds 2-4. And honestly idk that Cam projects best to RT anyways. 

Plus theres still FA and training camp cuts. We've filled holes on the OL several times at that point in FA.

 

You're right that it could spell trouble if we're rolling out Hurst every week at RT. But, throwing a 1st round pick at the problem isnt the only way to improve that. And as others have mentioned, I think the issue at C is much more glaring and will impact the overall success of the OL much more than RT. So if we're going to jump at a RT prospect who probably isnt the greatest value there, might as well grab the best C in the 1st round then???  

In the draft lets just get the best players... with the board slightly modified to slant towards our needs. If they feel Cam is in the ballpark of BPA at 16, or they dont think anyone worth 16 is sitting there and decide to trade back -- then im ok with it.

 

But just saying, RT is a hole so go get the best possible player to fill it by any means -- darn the consequences, or possible elite talents we leave in our wake -- isnt the right way to go about it.

We need pass rush, so couldnt getting that Von Miller type player to dominate opposing OL's in that way be just as, if not more, important?

We could use an upgrade at C, since pressure up the middle via an Aaron Donald/Calais Campbell/Kawaan Short/Geno Atkins/Danny Shelton is the quickest way to get pressure on the QB or blow up the run game. 

So, not ignoring the value of a good RT. Just also recognizing even greater value in having a great C, and also how having the 2nd pass rusher will create that problem for other teams.