Timmy Jernigan - Trade rumors

[PurpleHorseman]

38 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

too risky. we dont need some high upside high injury risk corner, we need a steady and healthy proven commodity, brandon carr is exactly what this secondary needed.

I wouldn't say exactly what we needed. An average cornerback going into season 10. He is an upgrade. Not somebody that will change your defense. Of course Claiborne comes with injury risk. But the payoff is game changing. Kinda like the lottery. Yes you have a better shot at 4 number game as opposed to 6. 2k isn't changing your financial situation. Yes it is a pay upgrade. But really what is the point of playing pick 4? The pick 6 or whatever where you can win millions is less chance to win. But it will change your financial fortunes. 

If Claiborne could put it together it would be the dynamic piece that puts an exclamation point on our secondary and the defense. That will squeeze offenses air attack and very well could propel us to the Super Bowl. Then if we could add a couple dominant front 7 players in the draft like Foster and Williams/Lawson Ravens defense is as viscous as ever was

 

 

[JoeyFlex5]

5 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

I wouldn't say exactly what we needed. An average cornerback going into season 10. He is an upgrade. Not somebody that will change your defense. Of course Claiborne comes with injury risk. But the payoff is game changing. Kinda like the lottery. Yes you have a better shot at 4 number game as opposed to 6. 2k isn't changing your financial situation. Yes it is a pay upgrade. But really what is the point of playing pick 4? The pick 6 or whatever where you can win millions is less chance to win. But it will change your financial fortunes. 

If Claiborne could put it together it would be the dynamic piece that puts an exclamation point on our secondary and the defense. That will squeeze offenses air attack and very well could propel us to the Super Bowl. Then if we could add a couple dominant front 7 players in the draft like Foster and Williams/Lawson Ravens defense is as viscous as ever was

 

 

but see the issue is that claiborne wanted a fat payday, and that injury risk becomes substantially riskier when you are investing a lot of long term cap in him, not a risk we can afford. and on a related note, we have a top cb, a guy who is far better than claiborne and far more proven, who is also injured nearly every year and taking up a lot of cap space, the man has earned that money though, far more than claiborne has, his injuries have come mostly while making great effort plays and freak accidents occurring, claibornes have been nagging and consistent. 

and you may be underestimating what carr brings to this defense, he absolutely will change it, and heres why... with jimmy smith on the field, we have a guy we leave on an island, and the opposite side of the field we clutter to all hell with the rest of the secondary, it works pretty well considering shareece wright is the 2nd corner, but he is still a complete liability whom we have to dedicate a lot of our defensive scheme to cover up, and when we want to use a safety elsewhere, suddenly our secondary as a whole no longer matters because wright can be picked on so easily. the defense really is only as good as the weakest cb on a lot of plays depending on the scheme, because its a position that can be exploited totally independent of the supporting cast. we can have a great pass rush, but shareece wright is going to give up separation and cushion so often that the pass rush doesnt matter, we saw it against the patriots in the divisional round, our great pass rush meant nothing because of quick separation. we need a guy who is technically sound and savvy that we can rely on with a fair bit of size, brandon carr exactly. honestly a guy who doesnt just get absolutely roasted every play is what we need, and having some size and ball awareness helps a lot as well as we have seen our 2nd and 3rd cbs get embarrassed  by large wrs. carr gives us that extra one second needed to get to the qb, and he gives us a guy that can actually fight for the ball in the redzone. the difference that a solid #2 makes for this defense is massive, with our scheme you wouldnt really see that noticeable of a difference with claiborne vs carr. 

really what im trying to say is there isnt that much room for improvement in our secondary, we need a solid #2 to make our secondary one of the best in the league, im ok with paying less for a guy without nearly as many injury concerns if it means our secondary is top 5 rather than top 3. less risky and the money could be better used elsewhere. ill admit though i was on board with claiborne and didnt even know carr was in play for us, maybe not as sexy of a signing but definitely smarter.

[ludy51]

Timmy Jernigan officially traded to the Eagles

Ravens Give:

Timmy Jernigan

Pick No. 99

Eagles Give:

Pick No. 74

[SepticeyePoe]

Just now, ludy51 said:

Timmy Jernigan officially traded to the Eagles

Ravens Give:

Timmy Jernigan

Pick No. 99

Eagles Give:

Pick No. 74

You beat me to it lol. 

[757RavensFan]

On 3/24/2017 at 1:33 PM, Somerset Ravens said:

What are we going to get in return?

swapping picks, we go from pick 99 to 74. 

[trevorsteadman]

1 minute ago, ludy51 said:

Timmy Jernigan officially traded to the Eagles

Ravens Give:

Timmy Jernigan

Pick No. 99

Eagles Give:

Pick No. 74

As much as I liked Jernigan, there was no way the team could retain him. He will be missed for sure, but as a future move this was the best way to go at it.

[757RavensFan]

On 3/24/2017 at 2:31 PM, reed20 said:

Fake news, no credible sources. 

LOL!!

[BmoreBird22]

I don't like the idea of giving him away because he was the only interior pressure the Ravens had, but four picks in the top 75? I can dig that.

[allblackraven]

Good ammo to move up in 2nd

[757RavensFan]

3 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Good ammo to move up in 2nd

that's what I'm thinking.  Gives them the leverage to trade up in the 2nd.