[News] Late For Work 3/21: The Perfect Pair? Two Ideal Draft Picks For Ravens

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Baltimore is investing money to be the NFL’s best defense. A look at which Ravens rank among the highest-paid at their positions. Draft prospect Jabrill Peppers compared to Eric Weddle.

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[bioLarzen]

That top-5 list of teams with most guaranteed money for the D clearly show that it doesn't mean a thing in itself. #1 is the lowly Jags, #2 is the Patriots...

Giving a lot of guaranteed money is a good move if you give it to players who will contribute and you can keep on your roster for their entire contracts, and bad if you give it to players you won't be happy with and/or cut before their contracts expire...

You can do it wisely and foolishly. Any money givven to the likes of Kendricks and Michael Huff was bad decision, any cent given to the likes of Weddle was good investment. We'll see which was Jefferson and Carr will go.

Edited March 21 by bioLarzen

[fusuymada]

That top-5 list of teams with most guaranteed money for the D clearly show that it doesn't mean a thing in itself. #1 is the lowly Jags, #2 is the Patriots...

Giving a lot of guaranteed money is a good move if you give it to players who will contribute and you can keep on your roster for their entire contracts, and bad if you give it to players you won't be happy with and/or cut before their contracts expire...

You can do it wisely and foolishly.

Well, since the Jaguars, Ravens and Patriots were the 6th, 7th and 8th defenses in the league (based on points), your opinion is not exactly accurate.
(http://www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html?group=D&cat=T)

[fusuymada]

For me I would have Mike Williams WR in the first round and Teez Tabor CB who is now being projected as a second rounder as my two top picks for the Ravens. Perhaps a center in the third round and I would fill the right tackle position with one of the free agents who were cut.

[rmcjacket23]

  23 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

That top-5 list of teams with most guaranteed money for the D clearly show that it doesn't mean a thing in itself. #1 is the lowly Jags, #2 is the Patriots...

Giving a lot of guaranteed money is a good move if you give it to players who will contribute and you can keep on your roster for their entire contracts, and bad if you give it to players you won't be happy with and/or cut before their contracts expire...

You can do it wisely and foolishly.

Well, since the Jaguars, Ravens and Patriots were the 6th, 7th and 8th defenses in the league (based on points), your opinion is not exactly accurate.
(http://www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html?group=D&cat=T)

PPG isn't the greatest metric to measure a defense by either. Has many flaws.

[The Beak]

Hasson Reddick and Alvin Kamara

[billiejean]

I feel sorry for the team (hopefully this won't be us) that takes Jordan Willis before the 5th because of his blazing 40 time (a little less sorry if its a base 4-3 team but still sorry). This guy makes Paul Kruger look like jumpin jack flash. This guy's muscle twitch is as slow as molasses. Hopefully the front office has learned from Paul that drafting an edge defender early without good reactions time is a terrible idea. I mine as well throw Zach Banner into that category too but with him I'd feel sorry for the team that takes him at any round before the 7th.

[Bruce_Almty]

At the State of the Ravens review the top brass said the run game was priority one this year. Financially (given the cost of a RT) and making good on that commitment, no one would be a better #16 pick than a top O-linemen to play ROT.

[hen826957]

I hope Desmond King slips until the second round. If he does I want Ozzie to trade up and get. He is a playmaker at CB and could contribute at safety as well. I like Desmond King since Sidney Jones is hurt.

[ellicottraven]

I really think we need to bolster our run game, receiver, o-line and edge rusher in our first 3 rounds. The CB class is pretty deep and we can find one that is really good in the 4th and beyond. In any case, he can sit behind Jimmy and Brandon and learn and get ready. I would believe if Barnett is available when we pick, we go for it. If he isn't and one of the top 2 WRs available, we go for them instead. However, if all of them are gone we go for 1 of the top 3 RBs in the first round.

[rmcjacket23]

At the State of the Ravens review the top brass said the run game was priority one this year. Financially (given the cost of a RT) and making good on that commitment, no one would be a better #16 pick than a top O-linemen to play ROT.

I think they'll use somebody internally or a mid-round pick. We've had no issue finding quality Olineman in the middle rounds, and using a day 2 or 3 pick on a RT makes plenty of sense.

[hen826957]

I really think we need to bolster our run game, receiver, o-line and edge rusher in our first 3 rounds. The CB class is pretty deep and we can find one that is really good in the 4th and beyond. In any case, he can sit behind Jimmy and Brandon and learn and get ready. I would believe if Barnett is available when we pick, we go for it. If he isn't and one of the top 2 WRs available, we go for them instead. However, if all of them are gone we go for 1 of the top 3 RBs in the first round.

I think so too. If Mike Williams and Corey Davis both gone, I see them taking Barnett. If all three are gone, I could see them trade back a couple spots.

[Crusader]

Lets get a WR in 1st round maybe Joe will have time to throw to him like last year then again maybe not. Its like putting new tires on a car with no engine.

[PurpleBirds08]

My dream draft would go as such: 1RD: Mike Williams 2RD: Fabian Moreau 3RD: Ryan Anderson & if he is still there in the 3rd Sidney Jones granted he's injured he would be a GREAT pick up when he is healthy but then again its just a dream but not too far fetched

[budkretz]

The ravens have to get an edge rusher with out 1st or 2nd pick and there should be very good ones available at #16 or #47. At #16 if we go offense think Dalvin Cook or Mike Williams as playmakers. Hoping Cook is Zeke Elliott like -on the field and not off - or Williams is that good so we don't miss on a WR. An edge rusher is the other big need yet addressed. There are some very strong draftees that can be picked in first two rounds: Derek Barnett, Takk McKinley, Zach Cunningham, Taco Charlton, Charles Harris should be in play. If playmakers are drafted before we pick I see Ozzie trading back to get 1 to 2 more picks in rounds 2 &3. We'll know in a month.

[Bat-mite]

We need receivers, OL, and pass-rushers. There's no "perfect two;" we need more like a "perfect eight."

[fusuymada]

Talk about Adrian Peterson coming to the Ravens needs to be prefaced by the fact that we all need to remember what Peterson said after a 2013 game against the Ravens. He referred to Ravens fans "as the worst fans in all of football". Someone who disrespects Ravens fans has no business in purple and black. Not even to mention that the Ravens have no desire for domestic abusers and beating your children and being legally charged and penalized by the NFL is not a player the Ravens should even spit on.

[billiejean]

18 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

Talk about Adrian Peterson coming to the Ravens needs to be prefaced by the fact that we all need to remember what Peterson said after a 2013 game against the Ravens. He referred to Ravens fans "as the worst fans in all of football". Someone who disrespects Ravens fans has no business in purple and black. Not even to mention that the Ravens have no desire for domestic abusers and beating your children and being legally charged and penalized by the NFL is not a player the Ravens should even spit on.

Yea those would probably be my 9th and 10th reasons why we shouldn't pick up Peterson. The first and second would be he is going to be overpriced and he is oft injured. But there are a host of other reasons why our FO isnt even considering bringing him in.

Edited March 21 by billiejean

[CaliRavenFan]

I would have to go with Taco Charlton and Dan Feeney.. I would love Peppers at #16 but pass rush is a bigger need and he would start opposite of Sizzle day 1. I know Feeney isn't a sexy pick but we could slide him to C or LG and kick Alex Lewis out to RT, either way he would provide a major upgrade over the guys we got and eventually replace Yanda.

[Fastynart]

OMG here we go again. Another Wide receiver. Unbelievable. We have NO pass rush but the Ravens so called brain trust is talking about taking another wide receiver in the first round. How many times do you fail before it sinks in? If we don't get a bonafide pass rusher, all the wide receivers in the world will make no difference. Good grief.

[steelcityraven]

We need receivers, OL, and pass-rushers. There's no "perfect two;" we need more like a "perfect eight."

Round 1. Takkarist McKinley- OLB -UCLA
Round 2. TreDavious White- CB- LSU
Round 3. Sid Jones- CB- Washington
or Jalen Myrick- CB - MInnesota
Round 3. De De Westbrook -WR- Oklahoma
Round 4. Zach Baner - OT/ G- USC
Round 5. JJ Deilman- OT-UTAH
Round 6. Speedy Knoll- WR - Texas A&M

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Barnett 1st, Sidney Jones 2nd.

[steelcityraven]

OMG here we go again. Another Wide receiver. Unbelievable. We have NO pass rush but the Ravens so called brain trust is talking about taking another wide receiver in the first round. How many times do you fail before it sinks in? If we don't get a bonafide pass rusher, all the wide receivers in the world will make no difference. Good grief.

What is Kamar Aiken going to be in INDY? They have 1. TY Hilton, 2. Donte Moncrief 3. Phillip Dorsett - 4. Devin Street

Kamar will be a # 4 WR at best in Indy and probably and number five and that is provided that the Colts don't draft a WR.

In BMORE he would have been a # 4 at best behind
1. Wallace 2. Perriman 3. Whoever we draft and realistically probably behind # 4 Chris Moore... so he would have been a number 4 here at best and possibly a # 5 the same as in INDY

The Colts can over pay a # 5 WR if they want but I for one don't want our management overpaying a #5 WR -- Not sure what all the hysteria is about. For a second I thought we lost Jerry Rice or Terrell Owens.

It is Kamar Aiken... lets not push the panic button just yet.

[steelcityraven]

  36 minutes ago, Fastynart said:

OMG here we go again. Another Wide receiver. Unbelievable. We have NO pass rush but the Ravens so called brain trust is talking about taking another wide receiver in the first round. How many times do you fail before it sinks in? If we don't get a bonafide pass rusher, all the wide receivers in the world will make no difference. Good grief.

What is Kamar Aiken going to be in INDY? They have 1. TY Hilton, 2. Donte Moncrief 3. Phillip Dorsett - 4. Devin Street

Kamar will be a # 4 WR at best in Indy and probably and number five and that is provided that the Colts don't draft a WR.

In BMORE he would have been a # 4 at best behind
1. Wallace 2. Perriman 3. Whoever we draft and realistically probably behind # 4 Chris Moore... so he would have been a number 4 here at best and possibly a # 5 the same as in INDY

The Colts can over pay a # 5 WR if they want but I for one don't want our management overpaying a #5 WR -- Not sure what all the hysteria is about. For a second I thought we lost Jerry Rice or Terrell Owens.

It is Kamar Aiken... lets not push the panic button just yet.

LOL sorry responded to the wrong message

[steelcityraven]

OMG here we go again. Another Wide receiver. Unbelievable. We have NO pass rush but the Ravens so called brain trust is talking about taking another wide receiver in the first round. How many times do you fail before it sinks in? If we don't get a bonafide pass rusher, all the wide receivers in the world will make no difference. Good grief.

See my draft projection below. I think we will look to address the pass rush first. I know we added both KC and Kafusi last year bc that is what Mr. Biscotti wanted -is to address the pass rush!

I know that KC hasn't been what we had hoped just yet but I do think that once healthy Kafusi will be a difference maker.

I also believe that Mr. Biscotti still wants to improve the pass rush and I can only imagine that now that we lost Elvis... this will be a focus in the draft.

I really think McKinley is a realistic pick for us in round 1 and adds a skillset to our defense that makes us more dangerous right now!

I wouldn't be surprised if we took a pass rusher like McKinley in round 1 and then double dipped in round 4 and took a guy like Devonte Fields from Louisville. We can replace an undersized Louisville pass rusher (Elvis) with a slightly undersized Louisville pass rusher (Fields).

[steelcityraven]

I would have to go with Taco Charlton and Dan Feeney.. I would love Peppers at #16 but pass rush is a bigger need and he would start opposite of Sizzle day 1. I know Feeney isn't a sexy pick but we could slide him to C or LG and kick Alex Lewis out to RT, either way he would provide a major upgrade over the guys we got and eventually replace Yanda.

OR grabbing Cam Robinson -T- Bamma who would take over for Wagner and allow ALewis to continue to play G taking care of essentially two OL positions and setting our OL up long term with Stanley, Cam and Lewis being our future. Not bad

[steelcityraven]

Lets get a WR in 1st round maybe Joe will have time to throw to him like last year then again maybe not. Its like putting new tires on a car with no engine.

I think there are quality WRs in the later rounds of this draft!

Ju Ju Smith-Schuster in Round 2 would be an immediate starter

I think that Westbrook in the 3rd is a steal

I believe that both Isaiah Ford and Noah Brown are legit starters who will probably both be available in round 4.

I think Stacy Coley out of Miami in Round 5 has potential to be a great pick up

KD Cannon out of Baylor in Round 6 is a dangerous playmaker and
Speedy Knoll out of A&M is undersized but a great slot WR who will also be available in round #6

and watch out for Robert Davis - a kid out of the small school of Georgia State who is very unpolished but just may be a gem available late.

Obviously Mike Williams- Corey Davis and John Ross are the ones that everyone is talking about and rightfully so but I really like Ford and Westbrook as NFL WRs - I also really think that Coley would be a great addition even is it is for STs

[steelcityraven]

Ohhhh and Add Bug Howard -WR- UNC to the list. He has a lot of raw skill. He needs to be polished but he is a big bodied -long WR with decent speed and good route running. His hands and concentration are issues at times but we have had WRs who we helped through that (Torrey- Perriman)

Bug could be a steal between rounds 5-7

[hen826957]

OMG here we go again. Another Wide receiver. Unbelievable. We have NO pass rush but the Ravens so called brain trust is talking about taking another wide receiver in the first round. How many times do you fail before it sinks in? If we don't get a bonafide pass rusher, all the wide receivers in the world will make no difference. Good grief.

This is exactly what l'm talking about. We can't fil every need this year. If we take a pass rusher then you be complaining about we don't have a WR.

[rmcjacket23]

Talk about Adrian Peterson coming to the Ravens needs to be prefaced by the fact that we all need to remember what Peterson said after a 2013 game against the Ravens. He referred to Ravens fans "as the worst fans in all of football". Someone who disrespects Ravens fans has no business in purple and black. Not even to mention that the Ravens have no desire for domestic abusers and beating your children and being legally charged and penalized by the NFL is not a player the Ravens should even spit on.

I don't think we have any interest in him or he has any interest in us.