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Offense gets its turn now

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8 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

so dude is an all pro already without even taking a snap in the NFL yet?

He has my vote

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As much as we need OL and WR, I think for at least our first 3 picks there will likely be a DB or Edge guy at our spot who's great value. There's so many good guys are those positions in this draft that we'd likely be skipping over a guy who's the BPA to either overdraft an O-lineman (since the position's so thin) or draft a WR who might not be the best player on the board.
While I'd like for the draft to be the answer to our problems, I think it's likely that the board doesn't shake out that way at all.

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1 hour ago, ravensnj said:

McCaffery can play multiple positions, and play them at the highest level. He can play slot. outside, returner. and running back. He creates mismatches and would be a joy for any coordinator.

 

He is undersized at rb and we have no clue how our line is gonna perform, he's a disaster waiting to happen in the backfield. 

He has never been a true wr and lining up in the slot or outside in the NFL is gonna bring a massive learning curve with it. 

We don't need a second round talent at 16 struggling at multiple positions when we could find a first round talent at 16 to excel at one major area of need, such as edge(Tim Williams. Reddick, watt, possibly Barnett if he falls), or RT(cam Robinson or Forrest lamp) or even a true WR like mike Williams or Corey Davis, any one of those players, and many many more such as the cbs that will be available and other edge guys like Charles Harris would all likely bring a much bigger impact.

Hell I'd take Curtis Samuel over mcaffrey, he looks like much more of a threat as a wr and is a more dangerous speed mismatch coming out of the backfield.

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1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

He is undersized at rb and we have no clue how our line is gonna perform, he's a disaster waiting to happen in the backfield. 

He has never been a true wr and lining up in the slot or outside in the NFL is gonna bring a massive learning curve with it. 

We don't need a second round talent at 16 struggling at multiple positions when we could find a first round talent at 16 to excel at one major area of need, such as edge(Tim Williams. Reddick, watt, possibly Barnett if he falls), or RT(cam Robinson or Forrest lamp) or even a true WR like mike Williams or Corey Davis, any one of those players, and many many more such as the cbs that will be available and other edge guys like Charles Harris would all likely bring a much bigger impact.

Hell I'd take Curtis Samuel over mcaffrey, he looks like much more of a threat as a wr and is a more dangerous speed mismatch coming out of the backfield.

I totally disagree.  My comparison is a cross between Barry Sanders and Wes Welker. They both had little room to work with, but, they made their separation. Detroit's line was always one of the worst in the entire NFL, yet, Barry made plays.  And yes, I compared him to a HOF player. This is my opinion and I am sticking to it, as I am seldom ever wrong.

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23 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

I totally disagree.  My comparison is a cross between Barry Sanders and Wes Welker. They both had little room to work with, but, they made their separation. Detroit's line was always one of the worst in the entire NFL, yet, Barry made plays.  And yes, I compared him to a HOF player. This is my opinion and I am sticking to it, as I am seldom ever wrong.

Seriously.....

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1 hour ago, ravensnj said:

I totally disagree.  My comparison is a cross between Barry Sanders and Wes Welker. They both had little room to work with, but, they made their separation. Detroit's line was always one of the worst in the entire NFL, yet, Barry made plays.  And yes, I compared him to a HOF player. This is my opinion and I am sticking to it, as I am seldom ever wrong.

Lol, you are seldom wrong when you make stuff up with the benefit of hindsight. 

You just compared mcaffrey to Barry sanders, and I'm gonna leave it at that. 

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1 hour ago, ravensnj said:

I totally disagree.  My comparison is a cross between Barry Sanders and Wes Welker. They both had little room to work with, but, they made their separation. Detroit's line was always one of the worst in the entire NFL, yet, Barry made plays.  And yes, I compared him to a HOF player. This is my opinion and I am sticking to it, as I am seldom ever wrong.

barry sanders?

arguably the best RB ever barry sanders?

 

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6 hours ago, ravensnj said:

I totally disagree.  My comparison is a cross between Barry Sanders and Wes Welker. They both had little room to work with, but, they made their separation. Detroit's line was always one of the worst in the entire NFL, yet, Barry made plays.  And yes, I compared him to a HOF player. This is my opinion and I am sticking to it, as I am seldom ever wrong.

see you in february...

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5 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Lol, you are seldom wrong when you make stuff up with the benefit of hindsight. 

You just compared mcaffrey to Barry sanders, and I'm gonna leave it at that. 

Well, he did beat his collegiate career numbers for total yardage. So, his NFL numbers are on deck. 

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6 hours ago, ravensnj said:

I totally disagree.  My comparison is a cross between Barry Sanders and Wes Welker. They both had little room to work with, but, they made their separation. Detroit's line was always one of the worst in the entire NFL, yet, Barry made plays.  And yes, I compared him to a HOF player. This is my opinion and I am sticking to it, as I am seldom ever wrong.

Yeah, wonder how everybody forgot about last year and your favourite linebacker Scooby Wright

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3 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

Well, he did beat his collegiate career numbers for total yardage. So, his NFL numbers are on deck. 

 

1 minute ago, allblackraven said:

Yeah, wonder how everybody forgot about last year and your favourite linebacker Scooby Wright

 

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4 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

Well, he did beat his collegiate career numbers for total yardage. So, his NFL numbers are on deck. 

literally every modern "star" college offensive player beats the school records because of the offensive nature of both college football and the nfl - it means nothing - it's like suggesting jonny manziel will become an all pro qb off his nfl production (spoiler alert: it didnt happen)

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32 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

Well, he did beat his collegiate career numbers for total yardage. So, his NFL numbers are on deck. 

So I guess Donnell pumphrey will be the greatest running back in NFL history, I mean he is the all time leading rusher in college football history. Lol 

I do agree that mccaffrey will be very successful in the NFL. But to compare him to Barry Sanders is just wrong

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25 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

literally every modern "star" college offensive player beats the school records because of the offensive nature of both college football and the nfl - it means nothing - it's like suggesting jonny manziel will become an all pro qb off his nfl production (spoiler alert: it didnt happen)

C'mon Rossihunter2, it's not hard to realize that you are really JoeyFlex5 under another profile. Your jig is up, Joey!

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1 minute ago, ravensnation5220 said:

So I guess Donnell pumphrey will be the greatest running back in NFL history, I mean he is the all time leading rusher in college football history. Lol 

I do agree that mccaffrey will be very successful in the NFL. But to compare him to Barry Sanders is just wrong

Oh, this kid is going to be great.

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2 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

Oh, this kid is going to be great.

I can see that. Especially in today's NFL. His skill set is perfect for it. He needs to be in the right system however. 

But comparing him to Sanders, people will freak out 

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4 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

C'mon Rossihunter2, it's not hard to realize that you are really JoeyFlex5 under another profile. Your jig is up, Joey!

I find this use of fallacy insulting - joey and I often disagree on draft prospects... and anyway, I'm much better looking

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6 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

C'mon Rossihunter2, it's not hard to realize that you are really JoeyFlex5 under another profile. Your jig is up, Joey!

Also you didn't actually respond to what I said...

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Just now, rossihunter2 said:

I find this use of fallacy insulting - joey and I often disagree on draft prospects... and anyway, I'm much better looking

😂😂😂😂😂😂 this was too good

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12 hours ago, ravensnj said:

McCaffery can play multiple positions, and play them at the highest level. He can play slot. outside, returner. and running back. He creates mismatches and would be a joy for any coordinator.

 

I don't think he'll be nearly as flexible once he gets put up against NFL talent. Creating mismatches on the outside? I'm not too sure about that. Slot? I think he is better off doing what Woodhead does in the passing game (another reason I don't see us taking him, we'll just use Woodhead for that), but I could definitely see that happening if he can translate well enough, but his size is an issue. I have no doubt that McCaffery has the ability to really be a great player, but I don't think he'll be BPA for us and I don't think we could really benefit from him more than other players that are more plausible.

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Hearing a ton of buzz in these mocks that we're taking wideout John Ross... I sure hope that isn't the case👿

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5 hours ago, RavenNapp said:

Hearing a ton of buzz in these mocks that we're taking wideout John Ross... I sure hope that isn't the case👿

I don't think it'd be a bad pick. Not ideal but Ross can constantly get open everywhere on the field with his elite speed, quickness and footwork. He freezes NFL caliber DB's and breaks their ankles every game.

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On 3/20/2017 at 9:42 PM, rossihunter2 said:

I find this use of fallacy insulting - joey and I often disagree on draft prospects... and anyway, I'm much better looking

Much better looking

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After Christian McCaffrey's Pro day, we might have to trade up to get him. IMO, this game changer, play maker, team changer is the exact the type of player the Ravens front office has longed for. Draft him and say goodbye to the so called "Patriot" clones. Those wasted roster spots can now be used to replenish the linebacker position, with fresh young talents.

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1 hour ago, ravensnj said:

After Christian McCaffrey's Pro day, we might have to trade up to get him. IMO, this game changer, play maker, team changer is the exact the type of player the Ravens front office has longed for. Draft him and say goodbye to the so called "Patriot" clones. Those wasted roster spots can now be used to replenish the linebacker position, with fresh young talents.

What/who are the Patriot clones?

I really dont even have the slightest clue as to who you could be talking about.

 

And funny you say to get rid of the "Patriot" clones (again, whatever that means) and to trade up for McCaffery; who pretty much everyone says is the epitome of the kind of offensive weapon the Patriots value. 

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7 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

What/who are the Patriot clones?

I really dont even have the slightest clue as to who you could be talking about.

 

And funny you say to get rid of the "Patriot" clones (again, whatever that means) and to trade up for McCaffery; who pretty much everyone says is the epitome of the kind of offensive weapon the Patriots value. 

Oh yeah, you know, Campanaro & Reynolds, throw in Woodhead too (real ex Pat). That's 3 guys that can be replaced by 1 person. And yes, McCaffery is the real deal. He is the epitome of a smart, head ups,playmaker in the mold of an Edelman/ Welker/ Lewis / Vereen/ Faulk/ Ridley/ Meggett, players that have helped carry New England to soooooo many Super Bowls. However, he is better than them all.....way better. 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

Oh yeah, you know, Campanaro & Reynolds, throw in Woodhead too (real ex Pat). That's 3 guys that can be replaced by 1 person. And yes, McCaffery is the real deal. He is the epitome of a smart, head ups,playmaker in the mold of an Edelman/ Welker/ Lewis / Vereen/ Faulk/ Ridley/ Meggett, players that have helped carry New England to soooooo many Super Bowls. However, he is better than them all.....way better. 

 

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-path-to-the-draft/0ap3000000794913/Brooks-McCaffrey-is-a-triple-threat?icampaign="search-video-christian+mccaffery"

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12 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

Oh yeah, you know, Campanaro & Reynolds, throw in Woodhead too (real ex Pat). That's 3 guys that can be replaced by 1 person. And yes, McCaffery is the real deal. He is the epitome of a smart, head ups,playmaker in the mold of an Edelman/ Welker/ Lewis / Vereen/ Faulk/ Ridley/ Meggett, players that have helped carry New England to soooooo many Super Bowls. However, he is better than them all.....way better. 

 

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-path-to-the-draft/0ap3000000793180/Who-is-the-top-wide-receiver-in-the-2017-NFL-Draft

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