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44 minutes ago, Halshayeji said:

I absolutely agree there's still a lot of offseason left and so far Ozzie has been killing it! I disagree tho on the Trestman part. We all knew exactly what he was or wasn't coming from Chicago! We knew how stubborn he was and still kept him for 20 games when he showed no intentions of playing to the teams strength. He single handedly ruined a formula that was working and contaminated so many in the building as he left. Thus, the door knocked him all the way to Canada on his way out.

I was merely pointing out how quick people were to react.  We were also playing the best defense in football and lost by less than a td.  Yes, Trestman didnt work here, but judging the situation after one game.....just a tad bit of over-reaction imo

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25 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

I was merely pointing out how quick people were to react.  We were also playing the best defense in football and lost by less than a td.  Yes, Trestman didnt work here, but judging the situation after one game.....just a tad bit of over-reaction imo

I think we've got a good defense this year too. I know it's ironic that I'm judging too early but I like where we're going.

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19 minutes ago, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

More like, WHO IS HIKING THE BALL to Joe?

Morgan Cox

 

 

I kid... I kid...

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Just now, lgcs27288 said:

Morgan Cox

 

 

I kid... I kid...

lol let's just have have a ref toss it to him and cut out the middle man

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2 hours ago, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

More like, WHO IS HIKING THE BALL to Joe?

Me.  I will go in there and do it.

 

Problem solved. 

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12 hours ago, Cillmatic said:

we haven't even drafted yet! Will you people calm down?

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12 hours ago, Cillmatic said:

we haven't even drafted yet! Will you people calm down?

The conversation has more turned into what we should before the season starts. The first few posts knocked down the so called "anemic offense" label we've been given already.

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I have been a Baltimore Ravens fan for many years.  Through the years I have stuck by our team time and time again through trades, releases, draft picks, etc.

However, our selections are getting ridiculous!!  First of all, Our DEFENSE is amazing so stop looking for more DE's.  Our DEFENSE is not broken it is our OFFENSE!!

Joe Flacco is a horrible QB!! He doesn't run out of the pocket almost ever and he just tries to bomb it down field on almost every pass.  He's passer rating is terrible, hell even Jay Cutler did better then him this season.

QBR:

Joe Flacco

84.7

Jay Cutler   

85.7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_career_passer_rating_leaders

 

I really do like what Harbaugh has done with our team when he took over and he is a Great guy!!  But come on something has to change because besides Flacco being an over-rated poorly producing QB, it is our selections that are driving me nuts as a Ravens fan!!  

Why in the hell do we have 6 Running Backs and 6 Tight Ends on our roster???

RB:

1. Justin Forrsett (who we just let go, and who we will regret letting go!)

2. Kenneth Dixon

3. Javorius Allen

4. Lorenzo Taliaferro

5. Terrance West

6. Danny Woodhead (who we just picked up for some d*mn reason, injury prone!) 

 

Tight Ends:

1. Dennis Pitta

2. Nick Boyle

3. Maxx Williams

4. Ben Watson

5. Darren Waller

6. Crocket Gillmore

 

 

I still love my Ravens but when decisions like this are made and we are CLEARLY hurting at WR (with Steve Smith gone) why in the hell did we just pick up Danny Woodhead?

 

You CAN NOT win in the league with just Running Backs and Tight Ends!!!

 

Thank you for listening.  I am done ranting.  Hopefully we get really good draft picks!! Let's go RAVENS!! 

 

 #Defensecarryingourteamasusual, #fixtheoffense, #newQBplease, #NextSuperbowlChamps, #Ravens4l,

 

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Our offense works when the running game works.

 

Get a Mauler at center and figure out whats going on in our backfield and then all over opposing teams. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Ravens4l said:

I have been a Baltimore Ravens fan for many years.  Through the years I have stuck by our team time and time again through trades, releases, draft picks, etc.

However, our selections are getting ridiculous!!  First of all, Our DEFENSE is amazing so stop looking for more DE's.  Our DEFENSE is not broken it is our OFFENSE!!

Joe Flacco is a horrible QB!! He doesn't run out of the pocket almost ever and he just tries to bomb it down field on almost every pass.  He's passer rating is terrible, hell even Jay Cutler did better then him this season.

QBR:

Joe Flacco

84.7

Jay Cutler   

85.7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_career_passer_rating_leaders

 

I really do like what Harbaugh has done with our team when he took over and he is a Great guy!!  But come on something has to change because besides Flacco being an over-rated poorly producing QB, it is our selections that are driving me nuts as a Ravens fan!!  

Why in the hell do we have 6 Running Backs and 6 Tight Ends on our roster???

RB:

1. Justin Forrsett (who we just let go, and who we will regret letting go!)

2. Kenneth Dixon

3. Javorius Allen

4. Lorenzo Taliaferro

5. Terrance West

6. Danny Woodhead (who we just picked up for some d*mn reason, injury prone!) 

 

Tight Ends:

1. Dennis Pitta

2. Nick Boyle

3. Maxx Williams

4. Ben Watson

5. Darren Waller

6. Crocket Gillmore

 

 

I still love my Ravens but when decisions like this are made and we are CLEARLY hurting at WR (with Steve Smith gone) why in the hell did we just pick up Danny Woodhead?

 

You CAN NOT win in the league with just Running Backs and Tight Ends!!!

 

Thank you for listening.  I am done ranting.  Hopefully we get really good draft picks!! Let's go RAVENS!! 

 

 #Defensecarryingourteamasusual, #fixtheoffense, #newQBplease, #NextSuperbowlChamps, #Ravens4l,

 

I agree!!! Especially about how horrible flacco is. I don't understand how so many people on here believes he's a good quarterback. 

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2 hours ago, Purple&Black#20 said:

I agree!!! Especially about how horrible flacco is. I don't understand how so many people on here believes he's a good quarterback. 

The problem is we think he can become at the very least a decent QB if we just surround him with some guys. Nobody thinks he's Brady, but if we give him a good O-line and some guys to throw to I don't see him struggling near as much. A running game would help greatly, but that goes back to the O-line.

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5 hours ago, Ravens4l said:

I have been a Baltimore Ravens fan for many years.  Through the years I have stuck by our team time and time again through trades, releases, draft picks, etc.

However, our selections are getting ridiculous!!  First of all, Our DEFENSE is amazing so stop looking for more DE's.  Our DEFENSE is not broken it is our OFFENSE!!

Joe Flacco is a horrible QB!! He doesn't run out of the pocket almost ever and he just tries to bomb it down field on almost every pass.  He's passer rating is terrible, hell even Jay Cutler did better then him this season.

QBR:

Joe Flacco

84.7

Jay Cutler   

85.7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_career_passer_rating_leaders

 

I really do like what Harbaugh has done with our team when he took over and he is a Great guy!!  But come on something has to change because besides Flacco being an over-rated poorly producing QB, it is our selections that are driving me nuts as a Ravens fan!!  

Why in the hell do we have 6 Running Backs and 6 Tight Ends on our roster???

RB:

1. Justin Forrsett (who we just let go, and who we will regret letting go!)

2. Kenneth Dixon

3. Javorius Allen

4. Lorenzo Taliaferro

5. Terrance West

6. Danny Woodhead (who we just picked up for some d*mn reason, injury prone!) 

 

Tight Ends:

1. Dennis Pitta

2. Nick Boyle

3. Maxx Williams

4. Ben Watson

5. Darren Waller

6. Crocket Gillmore

 

Curious about a few things.

1. How is your first issue with Flacco that he doesn't run out of the pocket?  He's a pocket passer, not a scrambling QB (although he can and has).

2. "he just tries to bomb it down field on almost every pass" - Did you spend last season watching old games from the Cam Cameron era??

3. How did you bring yourself to include Forsett in the 6 RBs comment while also mentioning that we "just" let him go (about half a year ago)

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7 minutes ago, Purple_City39 said:

Curious about a few things.

1. How is your first issue with Flacco that he doesn't run out of the pocket?  He's a pocket passer, not a scrambling QB (although he can and has).

2. "he just tries to bomb it down field on almost every pass" - Did you spend last season watching old games from the Cam Cameron era??

3. How did you bring yourself to include Forsett in the 6 RBs comment while also mentioning that we "just" let him go (about half a year ago)

and 4. Why are we already judging our pick ups from the perspective that our roster is only dependent on the draft now?

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5 hours ago, Ravens4l said:

I have been a Baltimore Ravens fan for many years.  Through the years I have stuck by our team time and time again through trades, releases, draft picks, etc.

However, our selections are getting ridiculous!!  First of all, Our DEFENSE is amazing so stop looking for more DE's.  Our DEFENSE is not broken it is our OFFENSE!!

Joe Flacco is a horrible QB!! He doesn't run out of the pocket almost ever and he just tries to bomb it down field on almost every pass.  He's passer rating is terrible, hell even Jay Cutler did better then him this season.

QBR:

Joe Flacco

84.7

Jay Cutler   

85.7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_career_passer_rating_leaders

 

I really do like what Harbaugh has done with our team when he took over and he is a Great guy!!  But come on something has to change because besides Flacco being an over-rated poorly producing QB, it is our selections that are driving me nuts as a Ravens fan!!  

Why in the hell do we have 6 Running Backs and 6 Tight Ends on our roster???

RB:

1. Justin Forrsett (who we just let go, and who we will regret letting go!)

2. Kenneth Dixon

3. Javorius Allen

4. Lorenzo Taliaferro

5. Terrance West

6. Danny Woodhead (who we just picked up for some d*mn reason, injury prone!) 

 

Tight Ends:

1. Dennis Pitta

2. Nick Boyle

3. Maxx Williams

4. Ben Watson

5. Darren Waller

6. Crocket Gillmore

 

 

I still love my Ravens but when decisions like this are made and we are CLEARLY hurting at WR (with Steve Smith gone) why in the hell did we just pick up Danny Woodhead?

 

You CAN NOT win in the league with just Running Backs and Tight Ends!!!

 

Thank you for listening.  I am done ranting.  Hopefully we get really good draft picks!! Let's go RAVENS!! 

 

 #Defensecarryingourteamasusual, #fixtheoffense, #newQBplease, #NextSuperbowlChamps, #Ravens4l,

 

Dude  its MARCH. our roster will look  nothing like this. Tight ends and running backs will be cut when its time to trim down to 53...you need camp bodies  incase of injury obviously.  Also don't think we regretted letting forsett go- he did absolutely nothing with the lions and had minimal impact with denver.  Was much wiser saving the money and giving the reps to the youngsters. It was also a mutual decision- he asked to be released bc he couldn't handle sitting the bench for a few games after a slow start.

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2 minutes ago, January J said:

Dude  its MARCH. our roster will look  nothing like this. Tight ends and running backs will be cut when its time to trim down to 53...you need camp bodies  incase of injury obviously.  Also don't think we regretted letting forsett go- he did absolutely nothing with the lions and had minimal impact with denver.  Was much wiser saving the money and giving the reps to the youngsters.

And I've heard people say that Boyle could be switched to FB too. Not sure how I feel about that though.

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35 minutes ago, purpletide said:

The problem is we think he can become at the very least a decent QB if we just surround him with some guys. Nobody thinks he's Brady, but if we give him a good O-line and some guys to throw to I don't see him struggling near as much. A running game would help greatly, but that goes back to the O-line.

I'm really trying to keep faith in him but sitting and watching game after game makes me sick. He misses easy throws. They are to high, behind the receiver or jumpballs that could be touchdowns if put out in front of the receiver to run under. Perriman had Joe Hayden beat twice last year and the balls was under thrown. Front office does need to surround him with bigger targets. 6'3 plus. Jumpball specialist. 

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6 hours ago, Ravens4l said:

I have been a Baltimore Ravens fan for many years.  Through the years I have stuck by our team time and time again through trades, releases, draft picks, etc.

However, our selections are getting ridiculous!!  First of all, Our DEFENSE is amazing so stop looking for more DE's.  Our DEFENSE is not broken it is our OFFENSE!!

Joe Flacco is a horrible QB!! He doesn't run out of the pocket almost ever and he just tries to bomb it down field on almost every pass.  He's passer rating is terrible, hell even Jay Cutler did better then him this season.

QBR:

Joe Flacco

84.7

Jay Cutler   

85.7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_career_passer_rating_leaders

 

I really do like what Harbaugh has done with our team when he took over and he is a Great guy!!  But come on something has to change because besides Flacco being an over-rated poorly producing QB, it is our selections that are driving me nuts as a Ravens fan!!  

Why in the hell do we have 6 Running Backs and 6 Tight Ends on our roster???

RB:

1. Justin Forrsett (who we just let go, and who we will regret letting go!)

2. Kenneth Dixon

3. Javorius Allen

4. Lorenzo Taliaferro

5. Terrance West

6. Danny Woodhead (who we just picked up for some d*mn reason, injury prone!) 

 

Tight Ends:

1. Dennis Pitta

2. Nick Boyle

3. Maxx Williams

4. Ben Watson

5. Darren Waller

6. Crocket Gillmore

 

 

I still love my Ravens but when decisions like this are made and we are CLEARLY hurting at WR (with Steve Smith gone) why in the hell did we just pick up Danny Woodhead?

 

You CAN NOT win in the league with just Running Backs and Tight Ends!!!

 

Thank you for listening.  I am done ranting.  Hopefully we get really good draft picks!! Let's go RAVENS!! 

 

 #Defensecarryingourteamasusual, #fixtheoffense, #newQBplease, #NextSuperbowlChamps, #Ravens4l,

 

Joe Flacco just bombs the ball down the field???? Did you even watch last season? Im guessing no, since the main issue was the consistent check downs and short passes.

 

Justin Forsett was just let go? Am i missing something? Like did you type this post out at the beginning of last season and just hit "post" now? If so, more of this comment would make sense to me. If you literally just typed this all up now, i dont know... cant help ya.

What is QBR? What does it measure? What goes into it? Can you tell me?

Joe didnt have a good season, and hes got to improve. Some of its on him, bad decision making. But he was also coming off an injury, had ANOTHER OC change mid season, had a shoddy, injured OL in front of him and no semblance of a run game to rely on and keep defenders in the box.

 

The first step in fixing that is a change in identity/philosophy on offense. That happens with Marty having a full offseason with Harbs direction to build an offense that fits what we want to do. It also happens with bringing in more experts who know how to build successful run games. 

Check and check.

 

Get a consistent run game and there arent 6-7 DBs on the field sitting on all of our WRs routes. Things open up. Joes not throwing the ball 50 times a game (which NO qb should do, especially not Joe).

Give him a consistent run game that can grind out 1st down and control the clock and Joe will do more with less.

Perriman needs to step up as a true #1. I think he will. If Camp can stay healthy hes a play maker. Every time hes touched the ball hes made a play. IF, and its a big if at this point., but if he can stay healthy i expect a good year from him and to bring a component to our passing game we've been sorely missing.

 

And yes... you do need that many RBs and TEs at this point in the year. You cant go into TC with only 3. They likely wont all be on the team when we finish the 53 man roster. So pump the breaks a little. And I love Forsett, but we're not missing out. Did you watch him at all in Detroit or Denver?? Nothing.

He was a great fit at the right time when Kubes was here. Outside of that scheme, and now at his age he has no value here. Sorry but its the truth.

 

FA isnt over. The draft hasnt happened. TC cuts are still well in the future. Relax. This is not the roster we'll be going into week 1 with. The offensive philosophy we saw last year will not be the one we implement this year. That lone likely brings improvement. Joe and his weapons having some consistency in an offense likely brings improvement.

And when Ozzies plan with the OL is revealed -- we likely see improvement. Theyve said they want to build the best OL in the league like Dallas did, and they did it through the draft. I expect us to do the same. Stanley and Lewis are 2 potential long term options with big upside. Expect another solid piece or 2 to be added in draft, and an in house candidate to step up or a vet FA to be plugged in one spot.

 

R.E.L.A.X. (my best Rodgers impression) discount double check.

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15 hours ago, purpletide said:

I agree Pitta has done a lot to stay with us and do the best he can to make sure we have room in the cap and I wouldn't want to let go of that (also Flacco's favorite/most trusted target). I've heard people talking about what Williams could bring to us in the trade market, which I would only want to exercise that idea if we took Howard as a BPA pick. We could also cut Watson and move Boyle to FB as I've heard people talk about, but I'm not sure about how I feel about this.

I dont think Williams gets us much in return if we trade him. Maybe a 5th if were lucky. He has great hands, he's strong enough to block, and has enough speed to gain seperation. Problem is hes never healthy long enough to develop those physical abilities into football talent. Watson and Arrington are as good as gone pending they pass a physical. (consider their cap savings the money we need to sign our draft class). I honestly would be lying if i claimed i know what Boyle would offer as a FB. Lets give him a try i guess lol

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39 minutes ago, Purple&Black#20 said:

I'm really trying to keep faith in him but sitting and watching game after game makes me sick. He misses easy throws. They are to high, behind the receiver or jumpballs that could be touchdowns if put out in front of the receiver to run under. Perriman had Joe Hayden beat twice last year and the balls was under thrown. Front office does need to surround him with bigger targets. 6'3 plus. Jumpball specialist. 

Joe and Perriman need a full training camp together. This will do wonders for them both as far as timing- etc. If he stays healthy-( a big IF I know)  I GUARENTEE you perriman will have a breakout 1000 yd. Season. He's not just a one trick pony- he has the potential to be a true number one. Work on the concentration drops- which I  think ppl had overblown anyway- and work on his rapport with Joe and he can make a major impact with wallace demanding attention on the other side. They could be a great 1-2 punch. A lot of their success is riding on the running game though.. A strong running game will open things up down feild for perriman , Wallace and Moore. Moore was a huge disappointment for me last season- but I still believe he can be great too. He's more of a one trick pony who will burn guys running a straight line downfeild. Wallace and Perriman will both work slants across the middle and you can pick your poisen. All we need to add is 1 big body chain mover. I know it sounds cliche but a reunion with Boldin really does make a lot of sense and will cost us peanuts. Then if we can draft a nice wideout somewhere in the top 3 rounds we will be looking at a pretty strong corps. And that's not including our tight ends. I expect crock to also have a major resurgence now that he's healthy. Boyle can do it all and wallers size /speed combo is a huge mismatch problem. We know what we have in pitta who is joes safety blanket- the only ? Mark is maxx Williams- who has been somewhat of a letdown after having high hopes for him. It takes awhile for tight ends to develop- but the  transition to the NFL seems to have been too much for him. He seemed out of shape and gets injured often. we were laughin up a storm when we jacked him from Pittsburgh and they had to settle for Jesse James- well so far the jokes on us. Hopefully  he proves us wrong and takes a big step this season- but honesty i just don't see it. We may even have to let him go. 

We cant keep 5 tight ends- and right now I see it as :

1) Pitta

2) Crockett

3) Waller

4) Boyle

Watson is  still on our roster as of now too- which appears to be a sure fire cut- but we may keep him around through camp incase of injury. You never know. I was excited about our running back situation - but now with Dixons suspension  things get a little iffy.  If west went down with injury-suddenly we're looking at woodhead as our starter. We may draft a rb higher than most ppl think.

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2 minutes ago, January J said:

Joe and Perriman need a full training camp together. This will do wonders for them both as far as timing- etc. If he stays healthy-( a big IF I know)  I GUARENTEE you perriman will have a breakout 1000 yd. Season. He's not just a one trick pony- he has the potential to be a true number one. Work on the concentration drops- which I  think ppl had overblown anyway- and work on his rapport with Joe and he can make a major impact with wallace demanding attention on the other side. They could be a great 1-2 punch. A lot of their success is riding on the running game though.. A strong running game will open things up down feild for perriman , Wallace and Moore. Moore was a huge disappointment for me last season- but I still believe he can be great too. He's more of a one trick pony who will burn guys running a straight line downfeild. Wallace and Perriman will both work slants across the middle and you can pick your poisen. All we need to add is 1 big body chain mover. I know it sounds cliche but a reunion with Boldin really does make a lot of sense and will cost us peanuts. Then if we can draft a nice wideout somewhere in the top 3 rounds we will be looking at a pretty strong corps. And that's not including our tight ends. I expect crock to also have a major resurgence now that he's healthy. Boyle can do it all and wallers size /speed combo is a huge mismatch problem. We know what we have in pitta who is joes safety blanket- the only ? Mark is maxx Williams- who has been somewhat of a letdown after having high hopes for him. It takes awhile for tight ends to develop- but the  transition to the NFL seems to have been too much for him. He seemed out of shape and gets injured often. we were laughin up a storm when we jacked him from Pittsburgh and they had to settle for Jesse James- well so far the jokes on us. Hopefully  he proves us wrong and takes a big step this season- but honesty i just don't see it. We may even have to let him go. 

We cant keep 5 tight ends- and right now I see it as :

1) Pitta

2) Crockett

3) Waller

4) Boyle

Watson is  still on our roster as of now too- which appears to be a sure fire cut- but we may keep him around through camp incase of injury. You never know. I was excited about our running back situation - but now with Dixons suspension  things get a little iffy.  If west went down with injury-suddenly we're looking at woodhead as our starter. We may draft a rb higher than most ppl think.

People are exercising the idea of James Conner in the later rounds (6th I think). Haven't seen much of him, but if he's got potential then it wouldn't be terrible if we didn't have to use an early round pick on him.

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34 minutes ago, January J said:

Joe and Perriman need a full training camp together. This will do wonders for them both as far as timing- etc. If he stays healthy-( a big IF I know)  I GUARENTEE you perriman will have a breakout 1000 yd. Season. He's not just a one trick pony- he has the potential to be a true number one. Work on the concentration drops- which I  think ppl had overblown anyway- and work on his rapport with Joe and he can make a major impact with wallace demanding attention on the other side. They could be a great 1-2 punch. A lot of their success is riding on the running game though.. A strong running game will open things up down feild for perriman , Wallace and Moore. Moore was a huge disappointment for me last season- but I still believe he can be great too. He's more of a one trick pony who will burn guys running a straight line downfeild. Wallace and Perriman will both work slants across the middle and you can pick your poisen. All we need to add is 1 big body chain mover. I know it sounds cliche but a reunion with Boldin really does make a lot of sense and will cost us peanuts. Then if we can draft a nice wideout somewhere in the top 3 rounds we will be looking at a pretty strong corps. And that's not including our tight ends. I expect crock to also have a major resurgence now that he's healthy. Boyle can do it all and wallers size /speed combo is a huge mismatch problem. We know what we have in pitta who is joes safety blanket- the only ? Mark is maxx Williams- who has been somewhat of a letdown after having high hopes for him. It takes awhile for tight ends to develop- but the  transition to the NFL seems to have been too much for him. He seemed out of shape and gets injured often. we were laughin up a storm when we jacked him from Pittsburgh and they had to settle for Jesse James- well so far the jokes on us. Hopefully  he proves us wrong and takes a big step this season- but honesty i just don't see it. We may even have to let him go. 

We cant keep 5 tight ends- and right now I see it as :

1) Pitta

2) Crockett

3) Waller

4) Boyle

Watson is  still on our roster as of now too- which appears to be a sure fire cut- but we may keep him around through camp incase of injury. You never know. I was excited about our running back situation - but now with Dixons suspension  things get a little iffy.  If west went down with injury-suddenly we're looking at woodhead as our starter. We may draft a rb higher than most ppl think.

You dont see Maxx Williams on the team? He was looking good at the end of his rookie year and was injured last year. He was a 2nd round pick we traded up for. I know you cant just hold onto a guy bc you drafted him high, but at the same time the guy has big potential. He seems like the forgotten man since he was injured last year.

I think at TE we keep Pitta, Maxx, Gillmore and Boyle.

I think Waller makes the team, but is kept more as a WR/TE/ST hybrid, and bc of our lack of depth at WR hes kept more as the 5th/6th WR.

Boyle takes on more the Juice, hybrid FB/HB/TE role. So while we technically keep 5 TEs, its more like 3 TEs, Juice, and a WR who can play TE and ST.

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17 hours ago, Ravens4l said:

I have been a Baltimore Ravens fan for many years.  Through the years I have stuck by our team time and time again through trades, releases, draft picks, etc.

However, our selections are getting ridiculous!!  First of all, Our DEFENSE is amazing so stop looking for more DE's.  Our DEFENSE is not broken it is our OFFENSE!!

Joe Flacco is a horrible QB!! He doesn't run out of the pocket almost ever and he just tries to bomb it down field on almost every pass.  He's passer rating is terrible, hell even Jay Cutler did better then him this season.

QBR:

Joe Flacco

84.7

Jay Cutler   

85.7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_career_passer_rating_leaders

 

I really do like what Harbaugh has done with our team when he took over and he is a Great guy!!  But come on something has to change because besides Flacco being an over-rated poorly producing QB, it is our selections that are driving me nuts as a Ravens fan!!  

Why in the hell do we have 6 Running Backs and 6 Tight Ends on our roster???

RB:

1. Justin Forrsett (who we just let go, and who we will regret letting go!)

2. Kenneth Dixon

3. Javorius Allen

4. Lorenzo Taliaferro

5. Terrance West

6. Danny Woodhead (who we just picked up for some d*mn reason, injury prone!) 

 

Tight Ends:

1. Dennis Pitta

2. Nick Boyle

3. Maxx Williams

4. Ben Watson

5. Darren Waller

6. Crocket Gillmore

 

 

I still love my Ravens but when decisions like this are made and we are CLEARLY hurting at WR (with Steve Smith gone) why in the hell did we just pick up Danny Woodhead?

 

You CAN NOT win in the league with just Running Backs and Tight Ends!!!

 

Thank you for listening.  I am done ranting.  Hopefully we get really good draft picks!! Let's go RAVENS!! 

 

 #Defensecarryingourteamasusual, #fixtheoffense, #newQBplease, #NextSuperbowlChamps, #Ravens4l,

 

How did I just quote someone with 0 posts?!?

 

That, plus you're really not making sense with much of this.

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14 hours ago, Purple&Black#20 said:

I agree!!! Especially about how horrible flacco is. I don't understand how so many people on here believes he's a good quarterback. 

Love this type. 

 

Weve got no weapons anywhere and our OL sucks... we never do anything for the offense!!

And Flacco is the worst QB, how could anyone want him?!?!

 

So how many horrible QBs have their team in the playoffs and winning playoff games or knocking on the door of the playoffs every year with no weapons or OL?

Could it be many of us realize we've chosen to build our D often at the expense of the offense and Joe's been put in a position to shoulder far more of a load on the offense than most good QBs?

No, in our offensive environment he hasn't been consistently great in terms of production. 

But more often than not when the team is in a position to win, Joe does his part and scores to pts when needed to win. Whether driving for the go ahead TD or getting in FG range.  

Tough to always fly up and down the field without the weapons that Brady, Bree's, Rodgers, Ben, Ryan and even Eli have consistently had. 

 

But with the right identity... a ball control offense that runs effectively that takes occasional shots down field and allows the D to keep games close -- Joe has shown hes more than capable of winning... and winning a lot in the biggest of games. 

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10 hours ago, Halshayeji said:

I dont think Williams gets us much in return if we trade him. Maybe a 5th if were lucky. He has great hands, he's strong enough to block, and has enough speed to gain seperation. Problem is hes never healthy long enough to develop those physical abilities into football talent. Watson and Arrington are as good as gone pending they pass a physical. (consider their cap savings the money we need to sign our draft class). I honestly would be lying if i claimed i know what Boyle would offer as a FB. Lets give him a try i guess lol

Maxx has only been here 2 years. Played his rookie year and was injured last year (and I think could've prob returned but was shelved bc of how many TEs we thought we had).

I think it's a little unfair to say "he's never been healthy long enough......" He was injured for one year. 

 

Hes going into year 3 and with Roman as the TE coach I anticipate he's been tasked with working with Marty to figure out way to get the most out of this deep group of TEs in multiple sets as a way to supplement the WR group. 

If we don't end up with that complimentary WR like we wanted... we'll then Pitta and Maxx could be that guy while Gillmore and Boyle act as your more traditional TE. 

I fully anticipate Maxx getting involved in the offense this year. They moved up in the 2nd to get him. 

I think us not adding weapons in FA has something to do with the teams expectation that the young guys we invested high picks in recently are going to step up. 

Perriman and Maxx need to become the playmaking weapons this passing game is built around. And I think they'll be given that opportunity. 

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That's another thing no one has mentioned. Just through health and availability we should be adding quite a few weapons to this offense. 

Dixon for a majority of the season at RB. 

Perriman actually having a TC is like having a new weapon. And if Camp can stay healthy that could be a very underrated addition as a playmaker. 

Maxx and Gillmore gives us 2 very different TE

weapons that have both shown big upside.

Boyle may have shown the most promise as an all around TE and him not being suspended 10 games is like having a new weapon to use. 

Pitta being further removed from injury and with a full TC to train could be an improvement for him. 

Theres a possibility Watson stays which gives us another brand new weapon. 

And there's always the chance that Moore or Reynolds takes a step and adds a solid depth playmaker. 

Plus Woodhead. 

 

By my count that's essentially 9 weapons we should have this year that we didn't have all or most of last year. 

And 2 that should be improved weapons with having his first TC practice ever and another further removed from near career ending injury. He'll actually have TC and be able to do offseason work to get his explosion and speed back. 

 

Then theres the fact we haven't drafted yet. 

Without making any moves were potentially adding more new weapons to our offense than any other team in the NFL. 

And the offense will have more additions this season than the defense if you really think about it just by getting back talented weapons we couldn't use last year.  

 

If Perriman, Dixon and either Maxx, Gillmore or Boyle can step and become the top weapons they've shown the promise/talent of becoming there won't any reason to need a high paid addition. 

And if any of Camp, Moore, Reynolds, draft pick, Pitta, Watson, Waller, Gillmore or Boyle can become high end secondary weapons there won't be enough touches to go around to be concerned about adding FA weapons.

 

Returning players and change in offensive philosophy gives me more than enough confidence this offense can win alongside our D.

As long as we get a mauling Center this offense will be vastly improved on last years. 

Just watch.  

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On 3/15/2017 at 7:57 PM, lgcs27288 said:

Morgan Cox

 

 

I kid... I kid...

Maybe all of our plays should line up that far from scrimmage.

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Lots of great points, Bold. So many offensive pieces we really haven't had a chance to toy around with yet.......

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1 hour ago, Purple Nurple said:

Lots of great points, Bold. So many offensive pieces we really haven't had a chance to toy around with yet.......

That's why I don't think WR is such an urgent need as people make it out to be. I'd still like one that fits us in the draft, but we've got some potential stars that have been limited at the fault of no one. BTW I think we make Boyle the next FB.

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