[News] Late For Work 3/10: Best Reaction To Brandon Williams' New Massive Contract

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[7NationArmy]

It was weird checking my phone yesterday to see which players the ravens were adding instead of losing.

[BigUgly]

Now we just need the NFL Rules committee to outlaw the forward pass, and we will be all set!

[Halshayeji]

6 minutes ago, BigUgly said:

Now we just need the NFL Rules committee to outlaw the forward pass, and we will be all set!

Loooooooooooooooooool

touche

[stixfix69]

Priority for me is a proven ILBer, losing Orr was a kick in the gut, he really showed he was a starting ILBer in this league.....With SSS gone, bring back Aiken, he has that toughness, and has no fear on crossing routes....Kick Lewisd out to RT, move Urshel to LG, And land Mangold to center...

[stixfix69]

Keep Webb as J.Smith is made of glass, and much rather have a veteran who can play CB, then throw a rookie CB into the fire....

[TheRavengers]

I feel much better about free agency now. I still do wanna see more from Pierce, Henry and Carl Davis this year, though.

[fusuymada]

We will see how successful Juszczyk and Wagner will be when they leave. I have seen it before, guys are happy where they are and the system and people around them are what make them successful (Wagner can thank Yanda and Juszczyk can thank Flacco and Mohningweg for all the check down passes). Chasing the dollars, like Torrey Smith did when he went to SF, didn't buy him happiness (in his own words) and neither will chasing the dollars to Philadelphia (who just signed Alshon Jeffries so Torrey's value there has already decreased.) Another two years like he had in SF and he won't get another contract and if he does it will be a vet minimum.

I am glad we re-signed Williams. As I have said before, he and Crocket Gilmore know my fiancee through doing so much work at Kennedy Kreiger with children with disabilities. He is not only good for the team, he is good for the city and community and he is a really good person. This is the type of person we need as a leader in the locker room and he is getting there. His success on the front line helped make Moseley a pro-bowler and helpd Zach Orr be successful.

[fusuymada]

Keep Webb as J.Smith is made of glass, and much rather have a veteran who can play CB, then throw a rookie CB into the fire....

If we don't sign Claibourne or Amukamoura (I will learn the spelling if they sign like I did Juszczyk) we will draft a rookie corner to start opposite J Smith and even if we do sign one of them, they all, including Smith, have injury issues and so one or both won't even finish the year so we may have two rookie cb and a first year guy (in Young) as corners.

[drillem]

Keeping Williams is on par with having Haloti Ngata back in his prime. Too often the team loses it's best and brightest to free agency and never progresses. Quality players go towards teams that have a nucleus. Look at how acquiring Weddle has paid off that way. In past seasons we became known as the team that lost good players each year. You cannot rely completely on players who are near retirement for stamina and health.

[bioLarzen]

30 minutes ago, stixfix69 said:

Keep Webb as J.Smith is made of glass, and much rather have a veteran who can play CB, then throw a rookie CB into the fire....

Webb's just been cut "per sources".

The writing was pretty much on the wall with the Jefferson deal - but the last 24 hours were all about wiping writings off the wall, as far as Ravens free agency moves, weren't they?

Edited March 10 by bioLarzen

[rmcjacket23]

Keeping Williams is on par with having Haloti Ngata back in his prime. Too often the team loses it's best and brightest to free agency and never progresses. Quality players go towards teams that have a nucleus. Look at how acquiring Weddle has paid off that way. In past seasons we became known as the team that lost good players each year. You cannot rely completely on players who are near retirement for stamina and health.

Well, Ngata was a much more effective pass rusher and played more snaps than Williams does.

That's why Ngata got a contract bigger than what Williams just got... 6 years ago.

DTs who can get to the QB get a lot more than what Williams got.

[bioLarzen]

15 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

If we don't sign Claibourne or Amukamoura (I will learn the spelling if they sign like I did Juszczyk) we will draft a rookie corner to start opposite J Smith and even if we do sign one of them, they all, including Smith, have injury issues and so one or both won't even finish the year so we may have two rookie cb and a first year guy (in Young) as corners.

There seems to be no realistic scenario at this point where at least one of the top 3 corners is not available at #16 - and any of them have the potential to be day#1 starters.

My gut tells me though that if Ozzie picks at #16 it's gonna be a pass rusher.

But if anything, yesterday I learned I should not trust my gut about Ozzie's moves

[BigUgly]

16 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

There seems to be no realistic scenario at this point where at least one of the top 3 corners is not available at #16 - and any of them have the potential to be day#1 starters.

My gut tells me though that if Ozzie picks at #16 it's gonna be a pass rusher.

But if anything, yesterday I learned I should not trust my gut about Ozzie's moves

I know, right?  I wouldn't be surprised if Ozzie went WR at #16.  

I say not surprised because that would be surprising, which I should come to expect from Ozzie, therefore it shouldn't be surprising.

[TheRavengers]

Webb's gone now.

[bioLarzen]

  31 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

There seems to be no realistic scenario at this point where at least one of the top 3 corners is not available at #16 - and any of them have the potential to be day#1 starters.

My gut tells me though that if Ozzie picks at #16 it's gonna be a pass rusher.

But if anything, yesterday I learned I should not trust my gut about Ozzie's moves

I know, right?  I wouldn't be surprised if Ozzie went WR at #16.  

I say not surprised because that would be surprising, which I should come to expect from Ozzie, therefore it shouldn't be surprising.

Wr would be a totally legit pick at #16, if Williams or rather Corey Davis is still on the board. I'm not buying the John Ross at #16 hype for a moment.
My guess is though, Cooper Kupp, no earlier than round #2. I think he'll still be on the board by then.

[budkretz]

With the pick at #16 it seems that the Ravens will go CB or Edge rusher and there seems to be 2-3 at each position that cold warrant the pick there. The one wild card is RB - Dalvin Cook. Is he the playmaker, the Ravens need to add to the offense? It seems that if we don't go CB in 1st there should be a very good one in 2nd round. Even if we sign Claiborne, I can't see the Rravens not getting a CB in either the 1st or 2nd or 3rd round. Also since we only have 8 picks , I can see Ozzie trading back a few spots 17-22 range in order to get another pick or 2. With 4 picks in first 99 drafted the Ravens need to get 3 solid starters out of those picks. Hopefully one becomes All-pro. Though it may take a few weeks I see the Ravens adding a veteran OL and ILB to fill out those twos positions. Not sure who we add to our WR group. Anyone have any thoughts?

[metalraven]

I hope BWill stays hungry after this. I'm glad we're keeping him, but that is a HUGE price tag for a DT. In my opinion.

[metalraven]

Webb's gone now.

Ya. Kind of expected it. And I understand. But I'm not going to lie - he was always one of my favorite Ravens. He will be missed.

[ellicottraven]

I want Pitta gone too. We need to get rid of these old contracts one way or another. It's a case of diminishing returns but in Pitta's case we only saw some returns last year but the kind that really held us back on offense because of Joe's regression and Pitta's inability to gain yards after the catch.

[BigUgly]

25 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Wr would be a totally legit pick at #16, if Williams or rather Corey Davis is still on the board. I'm not buying the John Ross at #16 hype for a moment.
My guess is though, Cooper Kupp, no earlier than round #2. I think he'll still be on the board by then.

Ross seems too fragile, to me to take at #16.  Too bad Al Davis isn't still alive, or he'd trade all of his picks to move up and draft him.

Other later-round guys that look interesting include Zay Jones and JuJu Smith-Schuster.

[bioLarzen]

  1 hour ago, stixfix69 said:

Keep Webb as J.Smith is made of glass, and much rather have a veteran who can play CB, then throw a rookie CB into the fire....

If we don't sign Claibourne or Amukamoura (I will learn the spelling if they sign like I did Juszczyk) we will draft a rookie corner to start opposite J Smith and even if we do sign one of them, they all, including Smith, have injury issues and so one or both won't even finish the year so we may have two rookie cb and a first year guy (in Young) as corners.

Amukamara is now off the list. He's signed with the Bears.

[Ravensfolyfe]

Wow! Huge contract bro but welcome back and keep on clogging the middle and stuffing the run.

[steelcityraven]

good to have the big guy around for 5 more years. Sheshhhh.... that is a lot of guaranteed money however! You earned BW. God Bless

[steelcityraven]

With the pick at #16 it seems that the Ravens will go CB or Edge rusher and there seems to be 2-3 at each position that cold warrant the pick there. The one wild card is RB - Dalvin Cook. Is he the playmaker, the Ravens need to add to the offense? It seems that if we don't go CB in 1st there should be a very good one in 2nd round. Even if we sign Claiborne, I can't see the Rravens not getting a CB in either the 1st or 2nd or 3rd round. Also since we only have 8 picks , I can see Ozzie trading back a few spots 17-22 range in order to get another pick or 2. With 4 picks in first 99 drafted the Ravens need to get 3 solid starters out of those picks. Hopefully one becomes All-pro. Though it may take a few weeks I see the Ravens adding a veteran OL and ILB to fill out those twos positions. Not sure who we add to our WR group. Anyone have any thoughts?

Round 1. Takkirst McKinney- OLB UCLA
or Solomon Thomas- OLB- Stanford
Round 2. De De Westbrook- WR- Okla
Round 3. Fabian Moreau- CB- UCLA
Round 3. Zach Barner- T /G - USC
Round 4. Devonte Fields - OLB Louisville
Round 5. Robert Davis - WR- Ga State
or KD Cannon - WR - Baylor
Round 6. Kareem Are- G- FSU

Provided we land Claiborne if not then we go after TreDavious White -CB LSU in the 2nd round and Ju Ju Smith- Schuster- WR - USC in the 3rd

[billiejean]

11 minutes ago, steelcityraven said:

1 hour ago, budkretz said:

With the pick at #16 it seems that the Ravens will go CB or Edge rusher and there seems to be 2-3 at each position that cold warrant the pick there. The one wild card is RB - Dalvin Cook. Is he the playmaker, the Ravens need to add to the offense? It seems that if we don't go CB in 1st there should be a very good one in 2nd round. Even if we sign Claiborne, I can't see the Rravens not getting a CB in either the 1st or 2nd or 3rd round. Also since we only have 8 picks , I can see Ozzie trading back a few spots 17-22 range in order to get another pick or 2. With 4 picks in first 99 drafted the Ravens need to get 3 solid starters out of those picks. Hopefully one becomes All-pro. Though it may take a few weeks I see the Ravens adding a veteran OL and ILB to fill out those twos positions. Not sure who we add to our WR group. Anyone have any thoughts?

Round 1. Takkirst McKinney- OLB UCLA
or Solomon Thomas- OLB- Stanford
Round 2. De De Westbrook- WR- Okla
Round 3. Fabian Moreau- CB- UCLA
Round 3. Zach Barner- T /G - USC
Round 4. Devonte Fields - OLB Louisville
Round 5. Robert Davis - WR- Ga State
or KD Cannon - WR - Baylor
Round 6. Kareem Are- G- FSU

Provided we land Claiborne if not then we go after TreDavious White -CB LSU in the 2nd round and Ju Ju Smith- Schuster- WR - USC in the 3rd

I wouldn't take Banner unless we picked him up as a UDFA. He looks like a whale out of water on the field. He has come to camp heavy in every single offseason that he has been with USC and not just a little heavy either. He has been up to 400 pounds at some times.  Hes not worth the risk.

Edited March 10 by billiejean

[The Beak]

Would love S. Jones (CB) or C.Davis(WR) But really hoping to land H Reddick in the second even if we have to move up a little (THis guy is the 2nd K Mack)

[mendii]

  1 hour ago, budkretz said:

With the pick at #16 it seems that the Ravens will go CB or Edge rusher and there seems to be 2-3 at each position that cold warrant the pick there. The one wild card is RB - Dalvin Cook. Is he the playmaker, the Ravens need to add to the offense? It seems that if we don't go CB in 1st there should be a very good one in 2nd round. Even if we sign Claiborne, I can't see the Rravens not getting a CB in either the 1st or 2nd or 3rd round. Also since we only have 8 picks , I can see Ozzie trading back a few spots 17-22 range in order to get another pick or 2. With 4 picks in first 99 drafted the Ravens need to get 3 solid starters out of those picks. Hopefully one becomes All-pro. Though it may take a few weeks I see the Ravens adding a veteran OL and ILB to fill out those twos positions. Not sure who we add to our WR group. Anyone have any thoughts?

Round 1. Takkirst McKinney- OLB UCLA
or Solomon Thomas- OLB- Stanford
Round 2. De De Westbrook- WR- Okla
Round 3. Fabian Moreau- CB- UCLA
Round 3. Zach Barner- T /G - USC
Round 4. Devonte Fields - OLB Louisville
Round 5. Robert Davis - WR- Ga State
or KD Cannon - WR - Baylor
Round 6. Kareem Are- G- FSU

Provided we land Claiborne if not then we go after TreDavious White -CB LSU in the 2nd round and Ju Ju Smith- Schuster- WR - USC in the 3rd

dude if solomon thomas was still on the board at 16, our draft decision would take all of 15 seconds. I feel like there is almost no chance

[BigUgly]

Gotta say, it is so nice to have a competent FO when you look at the dumpster fires elsewhere in the league.

[steelcityraven]

  16 minutes ago, steelcityraven said:

  1 hour ago, budkretz said:

With the pick at #16 it seems that the Ravens will go CB or Edge rusher and there seems to be 2-3 at each position that cold warrant the pick there. The one wild card is RB - Dalvin Cook. Is he the playmaker, the Ravens need to add to the offense? It seems that if we don't go CB in 1st there should be a very good one in 2nd round. Even if we sign Claiborne, I can't see the Rravens not getting a CB in either the 1st or 2nd or 3rd round. Also since we only have 8 picks , I can see Ozzie trading back a few spots 17-22 range in order to get another pick or 2. With 4 picks in first 99 drafted the Ravens need to get 3 solid starters out of those picks. Hopefully one becomes All-pro. Though it may take a few weeks I see the Ravens adding a veteran OL and ILB to fill out those twos positions. Not sure who we add to our WR group. Anyone have any thoughts?

Round 1. Takkirst McKinney- OLB UCLA
or Solomon Thomas- OLB- Stanford
Round 2. De De Westbrook- WR- Okla
Round 3. Fabian Moreau- CB- UCLA
Round 3. Zach Barner- T /G - USC
Round 4. Devonte Fields - OLB Louisville
Round 5. Robert Davis - WR- Ga State
or KD Cannon - WR - Baylor
Round 6. Kareem Are- G- FSU

Provided we land Claiborne if not then we go after TreDavious White -CB LSU in the 2nd round and Ju Ju Smith- Schuster- WR - USC in the 3rd

dude if solomon thomas was still on the board at 16, our draft decision would take all of 15 seconds. I feel like there is almost no chance

Thomas still being there depends on the run on RBs and QBs.... I agree that it would take a little luck for us but if there are several QBs taken in the top 15 (Trubinsky, Kizer, Mahomes and Watson) and a couple of RBs (Fournette - Cook and possibly McCaffery) there is a chance that Thomas is still around. Garett going # 1, and 5 more DBs will probably be taken in the top 15 (Adams, Hooker, Lattimore Humphery and Peppers) - I am betting at least 2 and possibly 3 WRs can go in the top 15 (Mike Williams, Corey Davis and John Ross- with Ross being the wild care)

but if there is that kind of run on QBs that is already 16 players that I named who have a chance to go in the top 15. (with McCaffery and John Ross being wild cards). I didn't even mention Hasson Reddick, Jonathen Alen, Barnett and Rueben Foster - all of which some pundits are projecting to go in the top 15.

I think there is a chance that SF jumps at Thomas 2nd unless they do not get their QB. Then Jax could take him at 4th but they have already signed Calais Campbell... and spent a lot on that Defense. The next teams that may take him then would be the Bengals at 9 (but they should be after OL Ramcyzk out of Wisconsin) and then the Saints at 11. and they could take him but most mock drafts have them connected to a CB.

that would most likely then leave Thomas to us at 16. Yes it would be a fall and yes it would take a lot for the lottery pick to come to us but with the depth and direction of this years class... I wouldn't rule it out just yet.

and if he does go before us. That still leaves us some very good options as I listed nearly 20 players who are certainly top 15 worthy.
Lets hope that there is a run on QBs and RBs