[News] Reports: Rick Wagner Agrees To Terms With Lions

[BR News]

It appears the Ravens will need a new right tackle, as Rick Wagner has agreed to terms with the Detroit Lions, per ESPN. Wagner will reportedly eclipse $9 million per year, which sets a new high at right tackle.

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[rmcjacket23]

Quality player, would have liked to have retained him.

In the end, hard to justify spending $9M+ on a RT in this league. By comparison to other OLine position, its easily the least valued league-wide at this point, and it would be very difficult to get a quality ROI on that investment in the long run.

[Bat-mite]

No-brainer, but it still hurts. Here's hoping the Lions have a crappy year.

[jdynamite]

Nice having you Wagner, but as competitive an offer the Ravens may have made 9M/yr is All Pro tackle money. 

 

Compensatory pick on the way...

 Wonder if the Ravens will ever begin to Trade guys that they know they can't extend or don't want to extend because of cost...  It would be nice to trade a few guys similar to how the Patriots have done to gain 2nd and 3rd round picks. 

Year after year we have some quality players that leave and we basically are left looking forward to 4th and 5th round comp picks. 

[ellicottraven]

Good luck to Wagner and thank God for us not paying him that kind of money. I'm sure we'll hear another ridiculous offer to our run stopper B. Williams. Then it'll be good luck to him and thank God for us all over again. Why in the world are we the only team that seems so hamstrung with cap space year in and year out with nothing to show for it in terms of production and wins? Frustrating.

[TheRavengers]

Here's to hoping the tackles we have left can do a decent, if not better job at RT if they make it.

[RavenRampage]

Would have loved to have kept him, but that's just too much money. Hope the guys behind Wagner last year can step up their game.

[Raven in ATL]

JAG you wont hear much about once they left the ravens, Wagner joins a long list of players... Adalius Thomas, Jarret Johnson, Ben Grubbs, Michael Oher, Art Jones, Pernell McPhee, Dannell Ellerbe... just to list a few that come to mind right away

[20306cab]

No-brainer, but it still hurts. Here's hoping the Lions have a crappy year.

Don't worry. They always have a crappy year.

[ravens4life86]

Dumervil Released..according to Smith sr on twitter.

This puts round 1 priority on Pass Rusher

[ravens4life86]

Round 1, Tak Mckinley,Harris,Barnett,Reddick etc
Come back in round 2 get our CB
Round 2 if they slide Quincy Wilson, G.Conley, others Tr. White, J.Lewis, Tankersely etc

But now that Dumervil is cut round 1 Pass rusher, and round 2 CB

[rmcjacket23]

  35 minutes ago, Bat-mite said:

No-brainer, but it still hurts. Here's hoping the Lions have a crappy year.

Don't worry. They always have a crappy year.

They haven't been worse than 7-9 since 2012, so this isn't really true.

Two playoff appearances during that time as well.

[FloridalovesRavens]

The almighty dollar wins again. Ridiculous amount of money. Wish him luck he may well need it.

Good luck to Elvis. I'm sure someone will pick him up.

[mmcclend]

I really hope this doesn't make cam Robinson our first round pick. Love him as a prospect but would rather see us grab Taco, Harris, TaK McKinley Barnett etc or one of those corners. 

[Bob21043]

Not a peep on B. Williams yet, wonder why?

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Not too surprised Wagner found a big pay day. Elvis has left the building. He'll probably go to a team with tons of cap space or have to take a pay cut.

On a positive note: start piling up comp picks..

[BiggMack91]

im glad we didn't pay him

[rmcjacket23]

Not too surprised Wagner found a big pay day. Elvis has left the building. He'll probably go to a team with tons of cap space or have to take a pay cut.

On a positive note: start piling up comp picks..

Won't get any comp picks for players we cut (i.e. Dumervil). Its basically just Williams, Wagner and Juice that would give us comp pick benefit, and that's pending how we spend on FAs anyway.

[metalraven]

Good luck to Wagner and thank God for us not paying him that kind of money. I'm sure we'll hear another ridiculous offer to our run stopper B. Williams. Then it'll be good luck to him and thank God for us all over again. Why in the world are we the only team that seems so hamstrung with cap space year in and year out with nothing to show for it in terms of production and wins? Frustrating.

It rhymes with wacko

[bioLarzen]

I remember, when Oher was practically cut - he wasn't offered a new contract when he bacame a FA - and Harbaugh announced that he'll be replaced by Wagner - an unproven youngster at the time - the prevailing feeling was that it's not gonna end well, and a proven vet should have been brought in...
Wagner proved Harbaugh right and us, worriers wrong. Therefore, if now Harbaugh says he'll opt to replace Wagner with Nembot or Wesley - two young, unproven guys - I'll give him the beneit of the doubt. They may end up being just as good as Wagner.

[bioLarzen]

im glad we didn't pay him

There was no chance at all. He was WAY out of out price range.

[hen826957]

I don't get that when player leaves for big contract, there not gonna get the full amount. Then be cut in 2-3 years. Torrey was an example of that. Left the Ravens for 5M more then got cut 2 years later while he could just stay with the Ravens in the first place.

[bioLarzen]

15 minutes ago, Ravenous_Ravens said:

Not too surprised Wagner found a big pay day. Elvis has left the building. He'll probably go to a team with tons of cap space or have to take a pay cut.

On a positive note: start piling up comp picks..

Dumervil was cut, not lost in free agency, so he won't yield a comp pick.
Wagner surely will. As will Brandon Williams and Juszczyk. Maybe even Aiken, although that's less likely - and anyway, we can't get more thasn 3 comp picks, and our three top FA's will almost surely earn those 3 comp picks to Ozzie... But if Ozzie brings in a comp-pick worthy FA, Aiken's potential comp pick may become important...

Edited March 8 by bioLarzen

[rossihunter2]

2 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

I don't get that when player leaves for big contract, there not gonna get the full amount. Then be cut in 2-3 years. Torrey was an example of that. Left the Ravens for 5M more then got cut 2 years later while he could just stay with the Ravens in the first place.

but he got the entire signing bonus up front so he still gets everything apart from the base salary

[bioLarzen]

2 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

I don't get that when player leaves for big contract, there not gonna get the full amount. Then be cut in 2-3 years. Torrey was an example of that. Left the Ravens for 5M more then got cut 2 years later while he could just stay with the Ravens in the first place.

Well, I guess that was the risk he chose to take... Seems like he shouldn't have - but you know what they say about hindsight...

[Utah_Raven]

Yeah he's a good tackle but he's not $9MM good.

[rmcjacket23]

Good luck to Wagner and thank God for us not paying him that kind of money. I'm sure we'll hear another ridiculous offer to our run stopper B. Williams. Then it'll be good luck to him and thank God for us all over again. Why in the world are we the only team that seems so hamstrung with cap space year in and year out with nothing to show for it in terms of production and wins? Frustrating.

Because we aren't the only team with those problems.

The one's that draft better than us have overcome it.

[rmcjacket23]

I don't get that when player leaves for big contract, there not gonna get the full amount. Then be cut in 2-3 years. Torrey was an example of that. Left the Ravens for 5M more then got cut 2 years later while he could just stay with the Ravens in the first place.

1. Some of those players aren't getting cut after 2-3 years.

2. They may not play as well for us and get cut after 2-3 years also. Generally, when a player is told that he is good, he doesn't think that he is good because of the employer he works for. The natural mentality is that "I will be good no matter where I play".

Its not like we are so extremely loyal to players that we will keep them for life.

[hen826957]

11 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Well, I guess that was the risk he chose to take... Seems like he shouldn't have - but you know what they say about hindsight...

Yep

[Glen1024]

1 hour ago, hen826957 said:

I don't get that when player leaves for big contract, there not gonna get the full amount. Then be cut in 2-3 years. Torrey was an example of that. Left the Ravens for 5M more then got cut 2 years later while he could just stay with the Ravens in the first place.

Nfl is all about the signing bonus/ guaranteed money.....why worry about the  number of years he played there when the bonus check has been cashed and he can seek another one now that he's a FA again