[News] Ravens Waive Cornerback Shareece Wright, Safety Kendrick Lewis

[Crusader]

Ozzie needs to find better players.... wright wasn't very good but he still got a 3 year deal haaaaaa

Ravens need to find someone better to make these contacts. This is why the Ravens are 8-8 or worse team. Before, Ozzie could cover it up because he was not paying 120 million for a QB. The "Great Ozzie" has no wiggle room for mistakes.

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  1 hour ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

I see you are a weedle fan but just to clear it up he's average and on the down side of his career If he could have tackled A brown we would have beat the steelers and the guy gets beat deep a lot because he plays out of position and doesn't have the speed to recover

What are you talking about? Weddle had a fantastic season and was ranked as the #1 safety in the entire league by pff. 

Pff rankings are ajoke and what Im talking about is against the Pats he bit up on a run that Didn't happen and was torched by Brady this happened late in 4th quarter when as a safety your Only job is to not get beat deep and keep everything in front of you,several missed tackles thru out season one in particular that cost us the steeler game against A brown he had him wrapped up and still coudn't stop him that cost us that game I think he's OK but not great that's what Im talking about and these are Facts

[stuckonaboat13]

Im curious why the Ravens waited so long, the appropriate time to cut lewis was 2 years ago .....lol

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  1 hour ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  9 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

  9 hours ago, OzzieBisciotti said:

Besides Weddle, who isn't that great but solid, we just can't judge the safety position- same things is true with TEs as of late. Maybe we need to let someone else draft/ decide which FAs to pick up in these positions

Eric weddle played at an all pro level last year even if it wasn't recognised - he's way more than solid - he solidified an entire unit by being excellent and a leader - I don't think there's any doubt that he was a phenomenal signing

notice how all the teams with the most cap space are perennial losers and the teams who annually spend the most in free agency are perennially mediocre - overpaying doesn't pay

right player-right price and Jefferson would not fit that bill - we'd be dumping Webb for a guy who we would be paying similarly when Webb played pretty well last year for his first season at safety

I see you are a weedle fan but just to clear it up he's average and on the down side of his career If he could have tackled A brown we would have beat the steelers and the guy gets beat deep a lot because he plays out of position and doesn't have the speed to recover

To be clear, Weddle missed THREE tackles ALL year. He was graded as the 10th BEST player in the ENTIRE nfl and the BEST safety in the league.

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2017/2/10/14559076/pff-ranks-two-ravens-among-the-top-10-players-of-2016

He got beat over the top ONE TIME (link below)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AC2if-GELA

It seems that these two plays (A Brown stop, C Hogan bomb) have become so prominent in your mind that you have extrapolated them across the entire season.

Yes because those 2 plays alone each cost us the game those are facts and far as pff goes their rankings don't mean JACK

[robbie29]

6 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

9 hours ago, The Negotiator said:

We saved 5 million and spent 2 of it on West, what are we doing!!!!!!

Seriously. I'm with you...... Ridiculous

I completely understand the frustration. I've seen several people on here who say that West is good. No, he isn't. He's quite mediocre. The guy has never averaged more than 4 yards per carry (last year he was ranked 24th in that category), and it's usually pretty telling when a guy bounces between 3 teams in 3 years. Heck, it's even more telling when the Browns trade you away after just a year with the team.
The problem is- the Ravens have so many needs that they must address, it is almost impossible to shell out the $$ necessary to get a playmaker. What's worse is the Ravens' track record drafting RBs since 2008. Not one has played at a high level. But...when you wait until the 4th round or later to draft a RB, you're not going to get a stud. I hope Buck Allen breaks that trend and plays very well but I ain't holdin' my breath. It sucks, because with West & Allen as the Ravens' RB tandem, Flacco will likely be called upon to carry this offense. We all know how that works out...

Edited March 8 by robbie29

[RavenSwag]

Those 2 were bad signings which is one of the factors of why we're in our current cap situation...bad signings and bad contracts.

[budman]

15 hours ago, steelcityraven said:

We need to let Webb go... There are plenty of quality safeties in the draft (No less then 5 legit prospects in the first 3 rounds) and we can pick up another veteran S for fairly cheap (who should play equally as well as webb)

I do not see us cutting doom but stretching his contract out over a longer incentive heavy contract would be smart... we need pass rushers.

Finally... we have to cut Pitta... even if we bring him back later for less. He is set to make more then Ben Watson and our other (good young TEs) combined. Pitta is not worth that... especially when we have Watson and all the young TEs on contract.

Arrington should go... and I would imagine that we will lose BW, RW, and Juice...

I think Kamar will probably be gone as well

I really believe that Zuttah will also be let go... clearing even more space.
Finally... Not sure what we are doing with Buck Allen and Talifero... but with West and Dixon seeming to be secure and the plans we have to add a speed back... I really don't see us keep both of them.
 

Agree. If Pitta goes he will be a post June 1 cut. I think it's less dead money that way.

Edited March 8 by budman

[Crusader]

How much do you want to bet these guys end up on a team and play better? There is something fundamentally wrong inside this team. The message or influence,has gotten stale and entrenched into the fabric causing players to fail. Just look at all the former players in last years playoffs.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-former-ravens-players-currently-in-the-playoffs-20170104-story.html

[manofsteel]

Wrong ,Wrong, Wrong.....Jimi Smithis the CB who should have gone!

[RavensFanMania]

1 hour ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

He's not worth close to berry money

That I would agree

[sizzlingdoom]

Great News! Somebody is finally interested in Juice. Take him. Please!

[Chuckx999]

Well thats a start, next should be the godawful QB we have. I know they can't cut him but TRADE him!!!!! Think of all the cap space we would have!!!!

Watson, Zuttah, Arrington, Pitta and Webb should go next as well as number 58. All old, slow, just over the hill.

Then hire someone to do our draft, the people we now have are just BAD. DRAFT SMART

[TheRavengers]

Thank God we got rid of Wright, he was a pain to watch. Arrington should be next on the chopping block.

[billiejean]

  1 hour ago, billiejean said:

  2 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  10 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

  10 hours ago, OzzieBisciotti said:

Besides Weddle, who isn't that great but solid, we just can't judge the safety position- same things is true with TEs as of late. Maybe we need to let someone else draft/ decide which FAs to pick up in these positions

Eric weddle played at an all pro level last year even if it wasn't recognised - he's way more than solid - he solidified an entire unit by being excellent and a leader - I don't think there's any doubt that he was a phenomenal signing

notice how all the teams with the most cap space are perennial losers and the teams who annually spend the most in free agency are perennially mediocre - overpaying doesn't pay

right player-right price and Jefferson would not fit that bill - we'd be dumping Webb for a guy who we would be paying similarly when Webb played pretty well last year for his first season at safety

I see you are a weedle fan but just to clear it up he's average and on the down side of his career If he could have tackled A brown we would have beat the steelers and the guy gets beat deep a lot because he plays out of position and doesn't have the speed to recover

To be clear, Weddle missed THREE tackles ALL year. He was graded as the 10th BEST player in the ENTIRE nfl and the BEST safety in the league.

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2017/2/10/14559076/pff-ranks-two-ravens-among-the-top-10-players-of-2016

He got beat over the top ONE TIME (link below)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AC2if-GELA

It seems that these two plays (A Brown stop, C Hogan bomb) have become so prominent in your mind that you have extrapolated them across the entire season.

Yes because those 2 plays alone each cost us the game those are facts and far as pff goes their rankings don't mean JACK

Well, jsarrocohome you have bolstered your arguments in the past by highlighting your participation in "organized football" for 5 years. And I must admit that, that is extremely impressive. And it is an accomplishment that automatically makes your arguments about the Ravens much more credible than those that have played 4, 3, 2, 1 or 0 years of football. But I would ask you this... has your 5 years of football made you better at player evaluation than the coaches, players and pundits in the NFL. I ask you this because you will not find an article, interview, or transcript that agrees with your evaluation of Weddle. Are you so good at player evaluation that you are seeing something that they don't? Are they missing something so big that it would completely change their minds about Weddle?

If you can find an article, interview or transcript that supports your views I would love to see it.

Now lets forget about PFF for a moment. I am going to directly disprove your accusations.

"can't tackle he's slow and so overrated"
This is quote from you which I am going to disprove with real FACTS (Labeling your objective statements as facts is a bit disingenuous.)
WEDDLE missed THREE tackles this whole year. The notion that he can't tackle is absurd.
http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2017/2/10/14559076/pff-ranks-two-ravens-among-the-top-10-players-of-2016

"the guy gets beat deep a lot because he plays out of position and doesn't have the speed to recover"
This is another one of your statements. For the first half of the year Weddle game up 5 passes for 25 yards. For the second half of the year he gave up 9 catches only one was for 25 yards or greater. Add on to that 4 interceptions and 13 passese defensed. Being out of position was clearly not an issue that he dealt with this year.http://feed.hypervocal.com/items/438534

These are facts. These are objective numbers with no grey area. Capitalizing the word "FACTS" does not make your subjective statements any more real.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

  17 hours ago, steelcityraven said:

We need to let Webb go... There are plenty of quality safeties in the draft (No less then 5 legit prospects in the first 3 rounds) and we can pick up another veteran S for fairly cheap (who should play equally as well as webb)

I do not see us cutting doom but stretching his contract out over a longer incentive heavy contract would be smart... we need pass rushers.

Finally... we have to cut Pitta... even if we bring him back later for less. He is set to make more then Ben Watson and our other (good young TEs) combined. Pitta is not worth that... especially when we have Watson and all the young TEs on contract.

Arrington should go... and I would imagine that we will lose BW, RW, and Juice...

I think Kamar will probably be gone as well

I really believe that Zuttah will also be let go... clearing even more space.
Finally... Not sure what we are doing with Buck Allen and Talifero... but with West and Dixon seeming to be secure and the plans we have to add a speed back... I really don't see us keep both of them.
 

Agree. If Pitta goes he will be a post June 1 cut. I think it's less dead money that way.

Webb will either be restructured or cut. He wasn't terrible at FS and we don't have the money missile to launch for a top tier replacement on the market. That means bringing in a fringe veteran and hoping, or finding talent in the draft or hoping Marquesti(onable) Huff is the real deal.

Dumervil will be cut unless he's willing to take a discount, which I doubt he will. Health issues, age, and the fact that we at least have some bodies behind him are all factors.

I can see a scenario where Pitta and Watson are gone. That still leaves us with Maxx, Crockett, Nick, and Waller plus some draft pickups. There is some pretty deep talent in the draft.

Kyle Arrington is gone, I firmly believe that Williams, Wagner, and Juice are all gone too.

Kamar should be gone. He isn't worth what some team will be stupid enough to pay him.

Zuttah will be gone, Taliafero is gone and Buck Allen will be a fringe roster bubble guy. West may also be gone as well.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

We cut 2 terrible players to clear about 5 mil in cap.
Then we sign a rb for 2 mil that should not be higher than our 3rd back. Even AP is only rumored to get around 4 a year.
And we tendered Huff at 1.8 mil?? Yeah Huff, I know, who is that?
The FO is at it again

Just because the team signed all these guys to tenders doesn't mean they can't be cut later. If another team signs those players there is draft pick compensation.

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  2 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  3 hours ago, billiejean said:

  4 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  12 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

  12 hours ago, OzzieBisciotti said:

Besides Weddle, who isn't that great but solid, we just can't judge the safety position- same things is true with TEs as of late. Maybe we need to let someone else draft/ decide which FAs to pick up in these positions

Eric weddle played at an all pro level last year even if it wasn't recognised - he's way more than solid - he solidified an entire unit by being excellent and a leader - I don't think there's any doubt that he was a phenomenal signing

notice how all the teams with the most cap space are perennial losers and the teams who annually spend the most in free agency are perennially mediocre - overpaying doesn't pay

right player-right price and Jefferson would not fit that bill - we'd be dumping Webb for a guy who we would be paying similarly when Webb played pretty well last year for his first season at safety

I see you are a weedle fan but just to clear it up he's average and on the down side of his career If he could have tackled A brown we would have beat the steelers and the guy gets beat deep a lot because he plays out of position and doesn't have the speed to recover

To be clear, Weddle missed THREE tackles ALL year. He was graded as the 10th BEST player in the ENTIRE nfl and the BEST safety in the league.

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2017/2/10/14559076/pff-ranks-two-ravens-among-the-top-10-players-of-2016

He got beat over the top ONE TIME (link below)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AC2if-GELA

It seems that these two plays (A Brown stop, C Hogan bomb) have become so prominent in your mind that you have extrapolated them across the entire season.

Yes because those 2 plays alone each cost us the game those are facts and far as pff goes their rankings don't mean JACK

Well, jsarrocohome you have bolstered your arguments in the past by highlighting your participation in "organized football" for 5 years. And I must admit that, that is extremely impressive. And it is an accomplishment that automatically makes your arguments about the Ravens much more credible than those that have played 4, 3, 2, 1 or 0 years of football. But I would ask you this... has your 5 years of football made you better at player evaluation than the coaches, players and pundits in the NFL. I ask you this because you will not find an article, interview, or transcript that agrees with your evaluation of Weddle. Are you so good at player evaluation that you are seeing something that they don't? Are they missing something so big that it would completely change their minds about Weddle?

If you can find an article, interview or transcript that supports your views I would love to see it.

Now lets forget about PFF for a moment. I am going to directly disprove your accusations.

"can't tackle he's slow and so overrated"
This is quote from you which I am going to disprove with real FACTS (Labeling your objective statements as facts is a bit disingenuous.)
WEDDLE missed THREE tackles this whole year. The notion that he can't tackle is absurd.
http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2017/2/10/14559076/pff-ranks-two-ravens-among-the-top-10-players-of-2016

"the guy gets beat deep a lot because he plays out of position and doesn't have the speed to recover"
This is another one of your statements. For the first half of the year Weddle game up 5 passes for 25 yards. For the second half of the year he gave up 9 catches only one was for 25 yards or greater. Add on to that 4 interceptions and 13 passese defensed. Being out of position was clearly not an issue that he dealt with this year.http://feed.hypervocal.com/items/438534

These are facts. These are objective numbers with no grey area. Capitalizing the word "FACTS" does not make your subjective statements any more real.

I noticed billie jean that you like to comment on about everything I say you must really like me In the case of weddle I don't give a damn what anybody else thinks I know what a good football player looks like and you can disagree from now till hell freezes over but it doesn't change what I see Weddle is a average NFL safety and yes Me and lots of other smart fans know more about players than Some coaches, coaches sometimes have emotional attachment to players and fans will call it like it is by the way forgot to mention when weddle moved out of carson wentz's way and watched him score

[billiejean]

17 minutes ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

I noticed billie jean that you like to comment on about everything I say you must really like me In the case of weddle I don't give a damn what anybody else thinks I know what a good football player looks like and you can disagree from now till hell freezes over but it doesn't change what I see Weddle is a average NFL safety and yes Me and lots of other smart fans know more about players than Some coaches, coaches sometimes have emotional attachment to players and fans will call it like it is by the way forgot to mention when weddle moved out of carson wentz's way and watched him score

I commented on your post this morning because it was such an outrageous assertion.  You should give your resume to Ozzy and the guys if you think you know more than they do.  We need all of the help we can get at this point.  With your 5 years of "organized football" experience you will be a shoe in. 

[cobrajet]

Yeah I agree, we have been over paying for a lot of guys that are not producing. Between that and the guys who get injured or suspended right after we sign them has put us into a bad cap situation.

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  1 hour ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

I noticed billie jean that you like to comment on about everything I say you must really like me In the case of weddle I don't give a damn what anybody else thinks I know what a good football player looks like and you can disagree from now till hell freezes over but it doesn't change what I see Weddle is a average NFL safety and yes Me and lots of other smart fans know more about players than Some coaches, coaches sometimes have emotional attachment to players and fans will call it like it is by the way forgot to mention when weddle moved out of carson wentz's way and watched him score

I commented on your post this morning because it was such an outrageous assertion.  You should give your resume to Ozzy and the guys if you think you know more than they do.  We need all of the help we can get at this point.  With your 5 years of "organized football" experience you will be a shoe in. 

I do a lot better job than you

[billiejean]

20 minutes ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

I do a lot better job than you

and that is why I am encouraging you to put in your resume 

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  26 minutes ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

I do a lot better job than you

and that is why I am encouraging you to put in your resume 

Thanks for your support billiejean I remember you when Im at the top

[rossihunter2]

5 minutes ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

Thanks for your support billiejean I remember you when Im at the top

are you sure you aren't already the gm of the redskins?

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  53 minutes ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

Thanks for your support billiejean I remember you when Im at the top

are you sure you aren't already the gm of the redskins?

Pal I forgot more about Football then you ever know now go back down in mommys basement

[rossihunter2]

22 minutes ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

Pal I forgot more about Football then you ever know now go back down in mommys basement

Funny... considering one of us is watching tape right now on draft prospects as we speak

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  30 minutes ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

Pal I forgot more about Football then you ever know now go back down in mommys basement

Funny... considering one of us is watching tape right now on draft prospects as we speak

Big deal and one of us actually has a real job

[rossihunter2]

51 minutes ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

Big deal and one of us actually has a real job

Hahaha - I'm in the U.K... try again