[News] Late For Work 3/3: Brandon Marshall Will Be A Free Agent. Will Ravens Sign Him?

[CQ1]

too bad our UN-ELITE QB is taking up a majority of cap space on offense,it would be great to grab JEFFERIES and BRANDON MARSHALL,and immediately have 2 PLAYMAKER'S open on every play.

Correct! Its one thing to take up a large chunk of the cap space- if you are worthy of it, however, in Joe's case he is not all that good.

[stuckonaboat13]

59 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Point #3 is a good one. By saying that we won't win another championship being hypocritical like this, it basically implies that the only way to win a SB in this league is to either take all of the criminals, or none of them. You either have to be 100% or 0%, according to him.

Obviously this makes no sense, since there literally aren't any teams that don't employee somebody who broke the law, and there aren't any teams who never cut anybody because they did.

NFL franchises merely practice selective morality, which is also precisely what pretty much every human being on the planet practices.

The guy who criticizes others for breaking the law or being "immoral", yet drives over the speed limit on a daily basis. "But its just a speeding violation" they will say, but its also a morality violation.

People play the morality card at ONLY the times when it benefits them the most to do it, and ignore it completely when it doesn't.
 

Considering an NFL player is arrested on average every 7 days your team won't be very good if you refuse to sign anyone who has not only been arrested/charged but also someone with allegations whether true or false.

I never said the team has to 100% or 0% percent. The ravens on the other hand are pretending to be  100% , and my original post was pointing out their hypocrisy in the past with arrest and what I believe would be continued hypocrisy had they contained the second video of rice  that they knew about originally and the public did not. Basically I think the organization is full of it and all this "not signing because of domestic violence" or whatever issue is all them merely trying to back track because they got caught. But at the end of the day it hurts the team when you immediately say no to a player or prospect because your still busy trying to fix your imagine and reputation.

[bigcatfrank1]

on "5 bold predictions" by Lericos-
1. The Ravens will re-sign offensive tackle Rick Wagner- I don't agree, Wagner will get a higher offer and be paid more than what just a RT is worth.

2. Mike Wallace, Dennis Pitta and Lardarius Webb will all be playing for the Ravens next season-
“The Ravens will jettison Elvis Dumervil, Shareece Wright, Jeremy Zuttah, Ben Watson, Kyle Arrington and Kendrick Lewis, creating $18 million in newfound salary cap space. However, several veterans with borderline contracts will be retained." I can agree with this EXACTLY.

3. The Ravens will sign one big-name receiver this offseason: I agree, Marshal, Garcon, Cruz, any veteran, decent, WR that is affordable can be a help.

4. The first-round pick will be a pass rusher- Dont Agree at all. Ravens will retain Williams and utilize the young talent on the team. Maybe a late rounder.
CB- Sidney Jones is most probable, DT -Taco Charlton another probability, RB- Dalvin Cook could really help the Ravens. one of these guys will be there!

5. The team will miss out on a top-ranked cornerback in the draft once again- Not a Chance !!


so 2 out of 5 is all can agree on...sorry Charlie

[reed20]

13 hours ago, potomacpitbulls said:

Here is my BOLD draft prediction:

At pick 16 the Ravens take Tim Williams. Then make a deal with the devil and trade the Pats the 2018 1st pick and the 2017 4th round pick for Jabrill Peppers to play Safety. In the 2nd round they select Desmond King. In the 3rd round the Ravens take both D’Onta Foreman and Zay Jones.
1. Tim Williams
2. Jabrill Peppers
3. Desmond King
4. D’Onta Foreman
5. Zay Jones
 

Terrible trade.

[sizzlingdoom]

If we want to win we'll sign Marshall. Probably already dropped the ball by not trading for him though.

[BigUgly]

If we want to win we'll sign Marshall. Probably already dropped the ball by not trading for him though.

Ravens were right to wait. Why give up draft picks for someone you know will be released? Besides, I'm sure SSSr and others have reached out to him to recruit him to the Ravens, and the Ravens should be able to give him $7M per for 2-3 years and retain Wallace.

The only issue is, does Marshall perceive the Ravens as a legit playoff contender? He can't hold any new team in high regard that lost to his old team.

[BiggMack91]

if we don't draft a CB at 16 then it needs to be an offensive player not another 2 down rusher especially when we already have Judon and Smith and KC as young rushers thats my opinion it just suck we are going to keep neglecting the one area of the team that has sucked since we won the super bowl in 2012 the secondary is the most critical part of this offseason if we do not pull the trigger on a top CB we will be in the same position as we where last year

[rmcjacket23]

  16 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Point #3 is a good one. By saying that we won't win another championship being hypocritical like this, it basically implies that the only way to win a SB in this league is to either take all of the criminals, or none of them. You either have to be 100% or 0%, according to him.

Obviously this makes no sense, since there literally aren't any teams that don't employee somebody who broke the law, and there aren't any teams who never cut anybody because they did.

NFL franchises merely practice selective morality, which is also precisely what pretty much every human being on the planet practices.

The guy who criticizes others for breaking the law or being "immoral", yet drives over the speed limit on a daily basis. "But its just a speeding violation" they will say, but its also a morality violation.

People play the morality card at ONLY the times when it benefits them the most to do it, and ignore it completely when it doesn't.
 

Considering an NFL player is arrested on average every 7 days your team won't be very good if you refuse to sign anyone who has not only been arrested/charged but also someone with allegations whether true or false.

I never said the team has to 100% or 0% percent. The ravens on the other hand are pretending to be  100% , and my original post was pointing out their hypocrisy in the past with arrest and what I believe would be continued hypocrisy had they contained the second video of rice  that they knew about originally and the public did not. Basically I think the organization is full of it and all this "not signing because of domestic violence" or whatever issue is all them merely trying to back track because they got caught. But at the end of the day it hurts the team when you immediately say no to a player or prospect because your still busy trying to fix your imagine and reputation.

No, the Ravens aren't trying to be 100%. If they were, they would have cut the players that you said they didn't.

They're 100% committed (at least at this moment) to not signing DV players, which is also something many other teams in the league seem to be committed to as well. There's a difference there.

Whether or not it hurts the team or not depends on the player. If the player does all the right things and ends up being productive, then yes, it MAY hurt the team.

On the other hand, there's somebody like a Randy Gregory, who a team takes a chance on and thus far has done nothing but bad things and hurt the team. In that instance, the teams stance not to touch said player benefited them a lot more than it hurt them.

Again, case by case basis, and there's certainly no definitive generality that can be made that says that teams that don't take risks on "character issue" players somehow struggle to win in this league.

Obviously, the overwhelming majority of NFL players don't have character issues when they enter the league, and the overwhelming majority of them will never face said issues throughout their career. The percentage of players who actually face legal issues in their career is extremely small. Its only amplified by the types of crimes and the profile of the individual player.

[sizzlingdoom]

  6 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

If we want to win we'll sign Marshall. Probably already dropped the ball by not trading for him though.

Ravens were right to wait. Why give up draft picks for someone you know will be released? Besides, I'm sure SSSr and others have reached out to him to recruit him to the Ravens, and the Ravens should be able to give him $7M per for 2-3 years and retain Wallace.

The only issue is, does Marshall perceive the Ravens as a legit playoff contender? He can't hold any new team in high regard that lost to his old team.

Why not give up a draft pick or two? It would've been late ones assuming they would've taken anything. Cuz they dumped him and got nothing for it. But the most important thing is because we would've assured getting him!!! Now the chances aren't good he'll sign with us. Plus his salary was way affordable for what he brings.
Last year the guy put up 14tds and 1500 yards on 109 catches. This year his team was a train wreck and he was hurt early in the year.
He's exactly what we need and is still a number 1. Especially considering how motivated he'd be to finally be on a good team, and we have perfect complements to his game. The FO better be working the tail off to make him a Raven. He knows we're a contender if we add him and a corner though.

[Ravens_Flock]

I don't want us to waste another first round pick on a WR, especially when we've ignored CB for so very long. But I also would like to see us stop bringing in aging veteran cast-offs at the end of their careers. Steve Smith had one solid season with us in 2014, and even then he dropped off near the end of the season and in the playoffs. We do not need to overpay for some washed up vet.

We NEED to develop our own talent, and actually keep them. But we can probably grab quality WRs past the first round. Our top priority needs to be shoring up a secondary that has been awful since Ed Reed left.

[JamesA119]

The biggest problem with Marshall is his "alleged" devisiveness in the locker room. To the outside world he appears amicable and like able but then you hear about how wrongly he rubs his teammates. Despite his talent, he appears to bounce from team to team lasting only a handful of years.

[rmcjacket23]

The biggest problem with Marshall is his "alleged" devisiveness in the locker room. To the outside world he appears amicable and like able but then you hear about how wrongly he rubs his teammates. Despite his talent, he appears to bounce from team to team lasting only a handful of years.

You haven't heard a peep about his divisiveness in locker rooms in many years.

The kicker for whether he signs with us, among other things like price tag, interest, etc. is whether or not the FO will loosen its stance on not signing players with a history of DV.

[JamesA119]

  4 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

The biggest problem with Marshall is his "alleged" devisiveness in the locker room. To the outside world he appears amicable and like able but then you hear about how wrongly he rubs his teammates. Despite his talent, he appears to bounce from team to team lasting only a handful of years.

You haven't heard a peep about his divisiveness in locker rooms in many years.

The kicker for whether he signs with us, among other things like price tag, interest, etc. is whether or not the FO will loosen its stance on not signing players with a history of DV.

You haven't heard a peep in many years but I have. Just last year there was a well publicized incident with him and Wilkerson and other team mates about an incident that started during the game and came to a head in the post game locker room.

[bigcatfrank1]

Sign Marshal, he is a good replacement for Steve Smith Sr. I think he will fit well with the Ravens. His temperament seems to have settled down some. Heck he certainly goes for the ball and his on the field play is what the Ravens need now!

Sport trac has his market value at $4.7mil which seems accurate and perfect for the budget. They do a nice job with comparisons and close margin values.

considering his size, age and strengths he would compliment Perriman, Wallace and Moore quite well. Also he would allow the Ravens to move away from 5 TE's. Even to the point of letting Watson and Pitta go (unless Pitta signs a reduction agreement) keep Waller, Boye and Crockett - let Williams play his way back on the team or even try to trade a young TE. Never know might get a young QB for one of them.

I also think the Ravens should pick up Latavius Murray, he is affordable too! At about the same $4.6- 5.2 mil he could prove to be that big downhill runner the RAVENS need. Allowing Dixon to compliment with his versatility. Also draft a RB with potential without using up an early pick.

[rmcjacket23]

  On 3/5/2017 at 4:41 PM, rmcjacket23 said:

  On 3/5/2017 at 1:23 PM, JamesA119 said:

The biggest problem with Marshall is his "alleged" devisiveness in the locker room. To the outside world he appears amicable and like able but then you hear about how wrongly he rubs his teammates. Despite his talent, he appears to bounce from team to team lasting only a handful of years.

You haven't heard a peep about his divisiveness in locker rooms in many years.

The kicker for whether he signs with us, among other things like price tag, interest, etc. is whether or not the FO will loosen its stance on not signing players with a history of DV.

You haven't heard a peep in many years but I have. Just last year there was a well publicized incident with him and Wilkerson and other team mates about an incident that started during the game and came to a head in the post game locker room.

LOL, you mean the incident when Marshall called out his team for lack of effort at half time in a game where they, you know, didn't display any effort? That incident?

The one where some of the "softer" defensive players took offense to the fact that somebody was saying they weren't trying, when they weren't actually trying?

I guess that makes Steve Smith a locker room cancer then too right?

I guess "cancer" and "leadership" have very minimal difference these days huh?