[News] Late For Work 3/3: Brandon Marshall Will Be A Free Agent. Will Ravens Sign Him?

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One pressing question determining whether Ravens will pursue Marshall. Brandon Williams ranked as top free agent remaining. Five bold predictions for Ravens offseason. Free-agent wide receiver Alshon Jeffery wants to sign with a contender.

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[reed20]

Please sign one of these two.

Edited March 3 by reed20

[CaliRavenFan]

Please sign Jeffery.

Jeffery will cost us way too much, I would rather save the money from signing him to a huge contract and resign Brandon Williams and if we have the money left over then Marshall. Sadly as every day passes without a new contract for Williams I get the sense he will not be back next year, I can see the Niners paying him around 10-12 mil a year to fit perfectly with their last 2 year 1st Rd picks.

[fusuymada]

I think Ozzie has realized that piecing a team together is not working for the Ravens. I think Wagner will be resigned, but honestly, I look for a complete wipe out of the rest of our free agents. I also think that they only keep Mike Wallace and release Pitta and Webb along with the other list; Dumervil, Wright, Lewis, Arrington and Zuttah. Puts them at about 21 mil cap space. I look for them to chase Mangold and sign him and along with Stanley, Wagner, Lewis and Yanda will come close to the best line in the league. I look for them to draft a RB and with that line will make it so the Ravens can run again, no seriously, really actually call run plays. With the extra cap space they can grab either Jeffries or Marshall and fill the CB and safety spots with the deepest draft for the secondary in years and years. We need to continue to build a younger, faster team and all those people we are getting rid of that aren't free agents are old and slow (or just suck).

[potomacpitbulls]

Here is my BOLD draft prediction:

At pick 16 the Ravens take Tim Williams. Then make a deal with the devil and trade the Pats the 2018 1st pick and the 2017 4th round pick for Jabrill Peppers to play Safety. In the 2nd round they select Desmond King. In the 3rd round the Ravens take both D’Onta Foreman and Zay Jones.
1. Tim Williams
2. Jabrill Peppers
3. Desmond King
4. D’Onta Foreman
5. Zay Jones

[Ravensfolyfe]

If you believe in second chances and if the numbers right. Why not we could use Brandon for sure big improvement as a prove vet. Hopefully,we get him.

[Bob21043]

Marshall or Garcon, depending on the $. I think B-Will is a as good as gone at this point.

[Purple Dawg 96]

Once again The Baltimore Ravens are not a " Rest Haven " for veterans! Brandon Marshall is working on sports shows and trying to play football! Now if a player goes down the Ravens can see whom is available but I'm against bringing him to Bmore! Need another WR like Campy that can stay healthy in the draft under 6ft and rugged and tough!

[whobilly]

They all want to go to a contender where they have a chance to win a championship. Then they sign with WHATEVER team that pays them the most money.

[CQ1]

Unless he is hip on all of Joes checkdowns, why not. Otherwise, as long as we have Flacco- your wasting your time here.

[stuckonaboat13]

The ravens have become the ultimate hypocrites with staying away from players because of legal issues. Apparently Domestic violence is worse than DUI(McCalister, BJ sams, McNair, , obstruction of justice in a murder trial(lewis), cocaine with an intent to distribute(Jamal lewis), Felony assault(suggs), refusing to allow medical attention to a female and not cooperating with police( J smith). This organization and the NFL as a whole is littered with guys who are constantly putting themselves in stupid situations because of their egos , upbringing , and intelligence levels. If the Ravens want to be politically correct and win the hearts and minds of the people they will never win another championship.

[rmcjacket23]

The ravens have become the ultimate hypocrites with staying away from players because of legal issues. Apparently Domestic violence is worse than DUI(McCalister, BJ sams, McNair, , obstruction of justice in a murder trial(lewis), cocaine with an intent to distribute(Jamal lewis), Felony assault(suggs), refusing to allow medical attention to a female and not cooperating with police( J smith). This organization and the NFL as a whole is littered with guys who are constantly putting themselves in stupid situations because of their egos , upbringing , and intelligence levels. If the Ravens want to be politically correct and win the hearts and minds of the people they will never win another championship.

Yes, Domestic Violence is actually worse than all of those things. I assumed that was common sense no?

I would also point out, obviously, that most of the players you listed were already on the Ravens (or off the Ravens) by the time those transgressions took place.

Our stance is not to bring in players who have a history of DV in their background. That's not to say that we wouldn't draft or sign somebody who eventually turns into a wife beater, because we would have no possible way of knowing that (see Rice, Ray).

You're confusing the two things. They're not the same.

[rmcjacket23]

They all want to go to a contender where they have a chance to win a championship. Then they sign with WHATEVER team that pays them the most money.

Again, depends on various factors. A guy like Marshall would certainly take a little less to play with a better team, because he's already made close to $74M in his career.

A guy like Alshon Jeffery will probably go to whoever gives him the most guaranteed money, because he's only made roughly $16M in his career so far, with most of that coming last season.

Veterans who have already gotten some big contracts usually factor in situation/success more than a 25 year old looking to get his first big contract.

[stuckonaboat13]

  22 minutes ago, stuckonaboat13 said:

The ravens have become the ultimate hypocrites with staying away from players because of legal issues. Apparently Domestic violence is worse than DUI(McCalister, BJ sams, McNair, , obstruction of justice in a murder trial(lewis), cocaine with an intent to distribute(Jamal lewis), Felony assault(suggs), refusing to allow medical attention to a female and not cooperating with police( J smith). This organization and the NFL as a whole is littered with guys who are constantly putting themselves in stupid situations because of their egos , upbringing , and intelligence levels. If the Ravens want to be politically correct and win the hearts and minds of the people they will never win another championship.

Yes, Domestic Violence is actually worse than all of those things. I assumed that was common sense no?

I would also point out, obviously, that most of the players you listed were already on the Ravens (or off the Ravens) by the time those transgressions took place.

Our stance is not to bring in players who have a history of DV in their background. That's not to say that we wouldn't draft or sign somebody who eventually turns into a wife beater, because we would have no possible way of knowing that (see Rice, Ray).

You're confusing the two things. They're not the same.

I will try to help you understand. So lets use reason and logic. For instance the same year Ray Rice was arrested for aggravated assault, on his soon to be wife, 9,865 people were killed in traffic accidents involving alcohol alone. Roughly 40% of all US traffic deaths that year.
From 2001-2012 and estimated 11,800(nearly 11,000 of those deaths were women) people were killed involving domestic abuse.

Please don't be a sheep , facts> popular ideas

""I would also point out, obviously, that most of the players you listed were already on the Ravens (or off the Ravens) by the time those transgressions took place.""
Exactly hence the hypocrisy , they kept almost every single player I listed that still had star potential in them. Just like they tried to keep Ray Rice, until the couldn't stop the second video from coming out......

[dirtybird66]

too bad our UN-ELITE QB is taking up a majority of cap space on offense,it would be great to grab JEFFERIES and BRANDON MARSHALL,and immediately have 2 PLAYMAKER'S open on every play.

[rmcjacket23]

  18 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

  36 minutes ago, stuckonaboat13 said:

The ravens have become the ultimate hypocrites with staying away from players because of legal issues. Apparently Domestic violence is worse than DUI(McCalister, BJ sams, McNair, , obstruction of justice in a murder trial(lewis), cocaine with an intent to distribute(Jamal lewis), Felony assault(suggs), refusing to allow medical attention to a female and not cooperating with police( J smith). This organization and the NFL as a whole is littered with guys who are constantly putting themselves in stupid situations because of their egos , upbringing , and intelligence levels. If the Ravens want to be politically correct and win the hearts and minds of the people they will never win another championship.

Yes, Domestic Violence is actually worse than all of those things. I assumed that was common sense no?

I would also point out, obviously, that most of the players you listed were already on the Ravens (or off the Ravens) by the time those transgressions took place.

Our stance is not to bring in players who have a history of DV in their background. That's not to say that we wouldn't draft or sign somebody who eventually turns into a wife beater, because we would have no possible way of knowing that (see Rice, Ray).

You're confusing the two things. They're not the same.

I will try to help you understand. So lets use reason and logic. For instance the same year Ray Rice was arrested for aggravated assault, on his soon to be wife, 9,865 people were killed in traffic accidents involving alcohol alone. Roughly 40% of all US traffic deaths that year.
From 2001-2012 and estimated 11,800(nearly 11,000 of those deaths were women) people were killed involving domestic abuse.

Please don't be a sheep , facts> popular ideas

""I would also point out, obviously, that most of the players you listed were already on the Ravens (or off the Ravens) by the time those transgressions took place.""
Exactly hence the hypocrisy , they kept almost every single player I listed that still had star potential in them. Just like they tried to keep Ray Rice, until the couldn't stop the second video from coming out......

1. That's great. But last I checked, he got a DUI, not a DUI that involved the death of another person.

We pretty much can just look to the legal system for verification on this, as the punishment for most first-time DV offenders is harsher in most jurisdictions than the first-time offense of most DUI offenders. As somebody who has gotten a DUI myself, I can tell you that I'm much better off getting a DUI than punching my wife in the face from a punishment/legal standpoint.

So if DUI was worse, why isn't the punishment worse? I mean we know Murder is worse because, among the fact that you killed somebody, our legal system has a harsher punishment for Murder. The legal system mostly defines the hierarchy of crimes based on their corresponding punishments for it.

2. Yes, they did keep every other star player included on that list, because that's what happens when you're a STAR player. You get preferential treatment, because you are more valuable.

Welcome to the Real World, where everybody isn't equal. Not every person walking this planet is as valuable as another, despite what some people would like to tell you.

When Joe Flacco gets a DUI, he stays on the team. When the 8th Olineman on the roster gets one, he gets cut.

Why? Duh. Joe is more valuable than the 8th Olineman.

[rmcjacket23]

too bad our UN-ELITE QB is taking up a majority of cap space on offense,it would be great to grab JEFFERIES and BRANDON MARSHALL,and immediately have 2 PLAYMAKER'S open on every play.

He could be taking up half the cap space he is and we still wouldn't be signing both of those guys.

[bioLarzen]

47 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Again, depends on various factors. A guy like Marshall would certainly take a little less to play with a better team, because he's already made close to $74M in his career.

A guy like Alshon Jeffery will probably go to whoever gives him the most guaranteed money, because he's only made roughly $16M in his career so far, with most of that coming last season.

Veterans who have already gotten some big contracts usually factor in situation/success more than a 25 year old looking to get his first big contract.

That's not this automatic. Jacoby Jones left money on the table TWICE to be/stay a Raven - although henever made anything closer to 74M... And we could find an awful lot of guys who, having earned tens of millions, still chose to follow the money trail...

 

You never know.

[bioLarzen]

18 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

He could be taking up half the cap space he is and we still wouldn't be signing both of those guys.

Good to see someone with an idea of how the cap system actaully works...

Edited March 3 by bioLarzen

[stuckonaboat13]

26 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. That's great. But last I checked, he got a DUI, not a DUI that involved the death of another person.

We pretty much can just look to the legal system for verification on this, as the punishment for most first-time DV offenders is harsher in most jurisdictions than the first-time offense of most DUI offenders. As somebody who has gotten a DUI myself, I can tell you that I'm much better off getting a DUI than punching my wife in the face from a punishment/legal standpoint.

So if DUI was worse, why isn't the punishment worse? I mean we know Murder is worse because, among the fact that you killed somebody, our legal system has a harsher punishment for Murder. The legal system mostly defines the hierarchy of crimes based on their corresponding punishments for it.

2. Yes, they did keep every other star player included on that list, because that's what happens when you're a STAR player. You get preferential treatment, because you are more valuable.

Welcome to the Real World, where everybody isn't equal. Not every person walking this planet is as valuable as another, despite what some people would like to tell you.

When Joe Flacco gets a DUI, he stays on the team. When the 8th Olineman on the roster gets one, he gets cut.

Why? Duh. Joe is more valuable than the 8th Olineman.

1.Try using that logic with some of the family members who lost loved ones to a drunk driver. " Well this guys ok because he didn't actually kill anyone that time". I cant argue on the legal process  because its just plain idiotic. I myself involved with the Marine Corps for some time advocated for the harshest punishment possible every time an incident occured. For whatever reason our society has adopted the "boys will be boys" mentality on the issue. I agree it is much more damning to be involved in a domestic abuse situation than DUI/DWI and that is complete nonsense. One continuously claims lives by the thousands annually while the other still terrible is simply not on that level.

2.Either you are missing my point or purposefully ignoring it. I understand players are treated differently, but the Ravens are the ultimate hypocrites for taking a harsh stance simply because they screwed up with the Ray Rice fiasco. You and I both know if they had stopped the release of the second video (like they were attempting to do ) he still would have been on the team. He would have been no different then all the other legal cases they allowed to stay on the team.

[Crusader]

I'm not impressed with Derek Barnett. He reminds me of those guys that are great in college but start to decline fast for the NFL. Takkarist McKinley is quicker.
"The team will miss out on a top-ranked corner-back in the draft once again" Are they giving up on Bronson Kaufusi?

[nj_ravens]

I'm not impressed with Derek Barnett. He reminds me of those guys that are great in college but start to decline fast for the NFL. Takkarist McKinley is quicker.
"The team will miss out on a top-ranked corner-back in the draft once again" Are they giving up on Bronson Kaufusi?

"Are they giving up on Bronson Kaufusi?"....

No.

Also, i get the reference to not drafting Ramsey, but seriously what does it have to do with getting another corner?

[nj_ravens]

too bad our UN-ELITE QB is taking up a majority of cap space on offense,it would be great to grab JEFFERIES and BRANDON MARSHALL,and immediately have 2 PLAYMAKER'S open on every play.

You assume:

1) That we would have a QB to throw to them

2) That apparently other teams don't play defense - nobody is open every play. Sorry.

3) That we would sign either of them, regardless of Joe's cap.

[rmcjacket23]

  2 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Again, depends on various factors. A guy like Marshall would certainly take a little less to play with a better team, because he's already made close to $74M in his career.

A guy like Alshon Jeffery will probably go to whoever gives him the most guaranteed money, because he's only made roughly $16M in his career so far, with most of that coming last season.

Veterans who have already gotten some big contracts usually factor in situation/success more than a 25 year old looking to get his first big contract.

That's not this automatic. Jacoby Jones left money on the table TWICE to be/stay a Raven - although henever made anything closer to 74M... And we could find an awful lot of guys who, having earned tens of millions, still chose to follow the money trail...

 

You never know.

Its a generality for the most part.

I'd also point out that the "less" that Jacoby took wasn't substantially less than what he was getting offered elsewhere.

My point is mostly that players aren't taking 20-30-40-50% discounts to stay with winning teams or "hometown" teams, especially when they were in their prime.

[rmcjacket23]

  1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. That's great. But last I checked, he got a DUI, not a DUI that involved the death of another person.

We pretty much can just look to the legal system for verification on this, as the punishment for most first-time DV offenders is harsher in most jurisdictions than the first-time offense of most DUI offenders. As somebody who has gotten a DUI myself, I can tell you that I'm much better off getting a DUI than punching my wife in the face from a punishment/legal standpoint.

So if DUI was worse, why isn't the punishment worse? I mean we know Murder is worse because, among the fact that you killed somebody, our legal system has a harsher punishment for Murder. The legal system mostly defines the hierarchy of crimes based on their corresponding punishments for it.

2. Yes, they did keep every other star player included on that list, because that's what happens when you're a STAR player. You get preferential treatment, because you are more valuable.

Welcome to the Real World, where everybody isn't equal. Not every person walking this planet is as valuable as another, despite what some people would like to tell you.

When Joe Flacco gets a DUI, he stays on the team. When the 8th Olineman on the roster gets one, he gets cut.

Why? Duh. Joe is more valuable than the 8th Olineman.

1.Try using that logic with some of the family members who lost loved ones to a drunk driver. " Well this guys ok because he didn't actually kill anyone that time". I cant argue on the legal process  because its just plain idiotic. I myself involved with the Marine Corps for some time advocated for the harshest punishment possible every time an incident occured. For whatever reason our society has adopted the "boys will be boys" mentality on the issue. I agree it is much more damning to be involved in a domestic abuse situation than DUI/DWI and that is complete nonsense. One continuously claims lives by the thousands annually while the other still terrible is simply not on that level.

2.Either you are missing my point or purposefully ignoring it. I understand players are treated differently, but the Ravens are the ultimate hypocrites for taking a harsh stance simply because they screwed up with the Ray Rice fiasco. You and I both know if they had stopped the release of the second video (like they were attempting to do ) he still would have been on the team. He would have been no different then all the other legal cases they allowed to stay on the team.

1. Society uses that logic with them everyday... they don't need to hear it from me. For example, a person who is convicted of DUI Manslaughter (with ordinary negligence) averages about 4 years of prison time. That means that even killing somebody while drunk yields less than 5 years in prison.

I'm not making these punishments up... this is what our society has dictated.

2. No, they're taking a harsh stance because society didn't realize what domestic violence looked like until they actually saw. There's husbands that punch their wives on a daily basis in this country, and most of them you'll merely read on the back page of your local newspaper and never think twice about it. The brutality of it doesn't become apparent until you actually see it.

Whether he would have been on the team or not remains debatable. We know he would have suffered a lengthy NFL suspension, and he was coming off a bad season anyway, so he probably would have served his suspension and then the Ravens would have evaluated his roster spot. Had Ray played in 2014 like he did in 2013, he likely would have been cut after that season anyway, so if he spent all of 2014 suspended, the situation may have not been any different.

But none of us will ever know. What we do know is that, league-wide, you likely won't be finding any teams keeping a player on their roster who they see punching a woman on video.

[nj_ravens]

  1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. That's great. But last I checked, he got a DUI, not a DUI that involved the death of another person.

We pretty much can just look to the legal system for verification on this, as the punishment for most first-time DV offenders is harsher in most jurisdictions than the first-time offense of most DUI offenders. As somebody who has gotten a DUI myself, I can tell you that I'm much better off getting a DUI than punching my wife in the face from a punishment/legal standpoint.

So if DUI was worse, why isn't the punishment worse? I mean we know Murder is worse because, among the fact that you killed somebody, our legal system has a harsher punishment for Murder. The legal system mostly defines the hierarchy of crimes based on their corresponding punishments for it.

2. Yes, they did keep every other star player included on that list, because that's what happens when you're a STAR player. You get preferential treatment, because you are more valuable.

Welcome to the Real World, where everybody isn't equal. Not every person walking this planet is as valuable as another, despite what some people would like to tell you.

When Joe Flacco gets a DUI, he stays on the team. When the 8th Olineman on the roster gets one, he gets cut.

Why? Duh. Joe is more valuable than the 8th Olineman.

1.Try using that logic with some of the family members who lost loved ones to a drunk driver. " Well this guys ok because he didn't actually kill anyone that time". I cant argue on the legal process  because its just plain idiotic. I myself involved with the Marine Corps for some time advocated for the harshest punishment possible every time an incident occured. For whatever reason our society has adopted the "boys will be boys" mentality on the issue. I agree it is much more damning to be involved in a domestic abuse situation than DUI/DWI and that is complete nonsense. One continuously claims lives by the thousands annually while the other still terrible is simply not on that level.

2.Either you are missing my point or purposefully ignoring it. I understand players are treated differently, but the Ravens are the ultimate hypocrites for taking a harsh stance simply because they screwed up with the Ray Rice fiasco. You and I both know if they had stopped the release of the second video (like they were attempting to do ) he still would have been on the team. He would have been no different then all the other legal cases they allowed to stay on the team.

1) "One continuously claims lives by the thousands annually while the other still terrible is simply not on that level." Which one is not on what level? I can't tell what point you're trying to make.

Whether or not somebody gets hurt absolutely matters on the crime. Yes DUI is terrible and a danger to everyone. But let's make an analogy. If you illegally discharge a weapon, you might get probation or maybe jail time. Maybe a misdemeanor. If you illegal fire a discharge and injure someone, or illegally discharge a non registered weapon, or something, you're probably getting a felony. The course of events matter.

Or even simpler. If you Jwalk, nothing is probably going to happen. If you run across the street with oncoming traffic and cause someone to swerve and hit someone, you're getting in a lot of trouble.

2) Here's my point that nobody is hitting on. DUI is a symptom of a bigger problem, alcoholism. Problems with drugs and alcohol are a personal problem that can be fixed. That is why teams are more willing to deal with that type of transgression, because the person can IMPROVE. The person can FIX himself. When it comes to DV, that person is generally a scumbag, and there isn't much you can do to fix it. There's nothing you can do to shake the image either.

3) You said "If the Ravens want to be politically correct and win the hearts and minds of the people they will never win another championship." and later went on to say they were hypocrits..

So are you saying we shouldn't bar DV offenders? What's wrong with trying to build a team of good people after having a few missteps along the way ?

[rmcjacket23]

  2 hours ago, stuckonaboat13 said:

  2 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. That's great. But last I checked, he got a DUI, not a DUI that involved the death of another person.

We pretty much can just look to the legal system for verification on this, as the punishment for most first-time DV offenders is harsher in most jurisdictions than the first-time offense of most DUI offenders. As somebody who has gotten a DUI myself, I can tell you that I'm much better off getting a DUI than punching my wife in the face from a punishment/legal standpoint.

So if DUI was worse, why isn't the punishment worse? I mean we know Murder is worse because, among the fact that you killed somebody, our legal system has a harsher punishment for Murder. The legal system mostly defines the hierarchy of crimes based on their corresponding punishments for it.

2. Yes, they did keep every other star player included on that list, because that's what happens when you're a STAR player. You get preferential treatment, because you are more valuable.

Welcome to the Real World, where everybody isn't equal. Not every person walking this planet is as valuable as another, despite what some people would like to tell you.

When Joe Flacco gets a DUI, he stays on the team. When the 8th Olineman on the roster gets one, he gets cut.

Why? Duh. Joe is more valuable than the 8th Olineman.

1.Try using that logic with some of the family members who lost loved ones to a drunk driver. " Well this guys ok because he didn't actually kill anyone that time". I cant argue on the legal process  because its just plain idiotic. I myself involved with the Marine Corps for some time advocated for the harshest punishment possible every time an incident occured. For whatever reason our society has adopted the "boys will be boys" mentality on the issue. I agree it is much more damning to be involved in a domestic abuse situation than DUI/DWI and that is complete nonsense. One continuously claims lives by the thousands annually while the other still terrible is simply not on that level.

2.Either you are missing my point or purposefully ignoring it. I understand players are treated differently, but the Ravens are the ultimate hypocrites for taking a harsh stance simply because they screwed up with the Ray Rice fiasco. You and I both know if they had stopped the release of the second video (like they were attempting to do ) he still would have been on the team. He would have been no different then all the other legal cases they allowed to stay on the team.

1) "One continuously claims lives by the thousands annually while the other still terrible is simply not on that level." Which one is not on what level? I can't tell what point you're trying to make.

Whether or not somebody gets hurt absolutely matters on the crime. Yes DUI is terrible and a danger to everyone. But let's make an analogy. If you illegally discharge a weapon, you might get probation or maybe jail time. Maybe a misdemeanor. If you illegal fire a discharge and injure someone, or illegally discharge a non registered weapon, or something, you're probably getting a felony. The course of events matter.

Or even simpler. If you Jwalk, nothing is probably going to happen. If you run across the street with oncoming traffic and cause someone to swerve and hit someone, you're getting in a lot of trouble.

2) Here's my point that nobody is hitting on. DUI is a symptom of a bigger problem, alcoholism. Problems with drugs and alcohol are a personal problem that can be fixed. That is why teams are more willing to deal with that type of transgression, because the person can IMPROVE. The person can FIX himself. When it comes to DV, that person is generally a scumbag, and there isn't much you can do to fix it. There's nothing you can do to shake the image either.

3) You said "If the Ravens want to be politically correct and win the hearts and minds of the people they will never win another championship." and later went on to say they were hypocrits..

So are you saying we shouldn't bar DV offenders? What's wrong with trying to build a team of good people after having a few missteps along the way ?

Point #3 is a good one. By saying that we won't win another championship being hypocritical like this, it basically implies that the only way to win a SB in this league is to either take all of the criminals, or none of them. You either have to be 100% or 0%, according to him.

Obviously this makes no sense, since there literally aren't any teams that don't employee somebody who broke the law, and there aren't any teams who never cut anybody because they did.

NFL franchises merely practice selective morality, which is also precisely what pretty much every human being on the planet practices.

The guy who criticizes others for breaking the law or being "immoral", yet drives over the speed limit on a daily basis. "But its just a speeding violation" they will say, but its also a morality violation.

People play the morality card at ONLY the times when it benefits them the most to do it, and ignore it completely when it doesn't.

[FloridalovesRavens]

too bad our UN-ELITE QB is taking up a majority of cap space on offense,it would be great to grab JEFFERIES and BRANDON MARSHALL,and immediately have 2 PLAYMAKER'S open on every play.

Too bad you just don't see the light. You could do a lot worse in the QB situation. You could be a Browns fan. They would give their eye teeth to have Flacco on their team and I could think of several others as well. Get over the cap issue please. It is what it is.

[MdPride1]

The answer is simple, it's no. Here's why, because frankly our GM is washed up and doesn't know what he is doing anymore. It's that simple. Once Wagner and/or Williams walks then our entire 2013 draft class will be gone.

Ozzie didn't want to get rid of a 3rd round pick to sure up our secondary. He didn't see the "talent" known as Jalen Ramsey, who graded as a top 10 corner as a rookie. He determined Stefon diggs wasn't worth a damn 4th or 5th round pick, passing on him multiple times. Took Matt Elam over tyrann mathieu. I could keep going on and on.

I think Ozzie needs to hand the keys over to decosta. The time has come. This team severely lacks talented youth and that is on ozzies shoulders

[CQ1]

  3 hours ago, dirtybird66 said:

too bad our UN-ELITE QB is taking up a majority of cap space on offense,it would be great to grab JEFFERIES and BRANDON MARSHALL,and immediately have 2 PLAYMAKER'S open on every play.

Too bad you just don't see the light. You could do a lot worse in the QB situation. You could be a Browns fan. They would give their eye teeth to have Flacco on their team and I could think of several others as well. Get over the cap issue please. It is what it is.

They can have him.