[News] Ravens Have Most Important Piece: Championship-Caliber Quarterback

[woolly61]

For those who think Flacco's 4-game run through the Super Bowl in '12 was a postseason "anomaly", consider these stats: in the playoff years of '10, '11, and '14, in 6 total games (5 were away) the Ravens were 3-3, winning at least 1 game per year; Flacco in those 6 games threw 13 TDs and 4 INTs (that's 24 TDs and 4 INTs in 10 postseason games since 2010); Flacco's QB ratings during those 6 games were 115.4, 61.1, 97.1, 95.4, 114.0, and 92.1; and the Ravens scored 25.9 points/game. Remember the perfect pass to Lee Evans in the end zone at New England in '11 in which Evans couldn't hold on, or Cundiff's blown field goal in the same game, preventing the Ravens from playing in the Super Bowl that year?

[sizzlingdoom]

No way I could comment or respond to this article. Especially to a couple smug individuals...LOL. Reading the comments are good enough

[Crusader]

Most of these bright and shinny stats were before he got paid. I bet most people on here would like to continue to get paid for things they done 4 years ago.

[Crusader]

  15 hours ago, The Negotiator said:

Flacco is not a Franchise QB, no where near Elite. He is holding this team hostage with his contract. The Playmakers are lacking and thats whats holding the Ravens back.

Better than that $100 million CHOKE artist NFL MVP Matt Ryan who has NEVER won a clutch game EVER including college.....I'll spend $20 million more for a guy that wins over a guy that never wins.

And the going rate for a starting QB is $20 million per (about to be $25-30 million per year once Stafford, Carr, Ryan, Mariota sign their new contracts).

One of the reason Atlanta lost was because the team could not afford a better defense.Atlanta ranked 25th while New England ranked 8th. Again, Defense wins championships. Good thing Ravens ranked 7th.

[Crusader]

Anybody that watched the Superbowl run knows, Flacco's success was because of Boldin always winning the 50/50 matchups, Jacoby's playmaking, and defensive leadership, Joe did throw a beauty to knock of Denver though

Remember the talk Jacoby could have won the MVP award?

[J.O.14]

Joe has not looked like a championship QB in about 3 years. Sure the receivers could be better, the line could be better, play-calling etc...

However, Joe had those things before he got paid the $120M contract. The expectation was for him to become a guy to make others better. He has not. The Ravens can not afford his contract and a top 5 defense, and pro bowl talent around him at the same time.

If NE can draft QBs then the Ravens should take one if they are available in the middle rounds to develop.

Remember time we had two 14 point leads in NE in 2014? Yeah Flacco played pretty well that game. I honestly believe if we didn't have injuries that year we could have went to the super bowl. Our secondary was AWFUL.

[J.O.14]

  15 hours ago, The Negotiator said:

Flacco is not a Franchise QB, no where near Elite. He is holding this team hostage with his contract. The Playmakers are lacking and thats whats holding the Ravens back.

The thing about it is don't blame Joe for his contract blame the front office. Joe could've accepted less that he was offered. Joe was probably flattered that they gave him more than he wanted.

When? In 2012? Because Flacco would have been paid the same amount by somebody else. We would have been left looking for a QB again. Have you people not seen the going rate for QBs now? If you look at Flaccos track record, especially in the post season, he deserves to get paid, and he would have. By us or by someone else. That's what you have to do if you want a franchise QB.

[J.O.14]

  17 hours ago, J.O.14 said:

I have never questioned the effort of this team since 2012 regardless of our record. I feel the Ravens always come out and play hard, always. I think any fan can see that. We just haven't had the talent we needed...

JHarbaugh doesn't hold anyone accountable, its always the same, yes they play hard most of the time , but that's not enough,  the desire to be great and the ability for a staff to coach players up is what separates the good teams from the great teams (see NE) I can count at least three games where Harbaugh and Wigs either cost us the game, or made the game closer that it should have been. This staff has been stagnant , from player evaluations to on the field adjustments , John Harbaugh seems to be a fine Man, but lets hope he can become a great coach, and right this ship,  this may be his last opportunity as a Raven....

So are you questioning the effort or the coaching ability? There is a big difference in coaches costing us the game and not getting the players to play hard. I have never once questioned the effort. I'm not denying that I haven't questioned some of the decisions made my the coaching staff. Harbaugh is a great coach and does hold people accountable. He stood up to Ed Reed and Ray Lewis, how many would do that? I think your letting a few years cloud the career that Harbaugh has had. You aren't at practices and you're not around the team when they practice everyday. You see them on Sundays, and I can tell when a team doesn't play hard, but I have never questioned the Ravens effort. Never.

[ByTheBay]

The past 3 seasons have shown me 2 things. 

1. The way Harbaugh kept our team fighting to the last second of every game in the second half of 2015 when we had nothing to play for showed me he is a highly skilled motivator. 

2. The high caliber offense we had in 2014 showed me just how important an OC is and how few really good ones there are available. We may never see another coordinator like Kubiak again. It was eye opening. 

[OUravensfan]

1 hour ago, J.O.14 said:

Remember time we had two 14 point leads in NE in 2014? Yeah Flacco played pretty well that game. I honestly believe if we didn't have injuries that year we could have went to the super bowl. Our secondary was AWFUL.

That game still haunts me, Joe and the offense were clicking, it felt special. Damn injuries 

[Swift 1]

16 hours ago, hen826957 said:

The thing about it is don't blame Joe for his contract blame the front office. Joe could've accepted less that he was offered. Joe was probably flattered that they gave him more than he wanted.

If the news reports were correct Joe refused to negotiate until after super bowl and then rightly told owner what he would pay him.

[stampedehero]

Fans from other teams dismiss JF but if you are a Cleveland, Jets, LA or SF fan you just want a permanent steady QB.

[CQ1]

I beg to differ......or Dilfer :)
Flacco needs too much around him and lacks the necessary skills to compensate for the lack there of. You all can sugar coat it all you want. You'll see- and you'll be paying for it- especially, if you want to pay for the fan increases. Good luck, there.

[Purple Dawg 96]

  16 hours ago, law215 said:

Joe has not looked like a championship QB in about 3 years. Sure the receivers could be better, the line could be better, play-calling etc...

However, Joe had those things before he got paid the $120M contract. The expectation was for him to become a guy to make others better. He has not. The Ravens can not afford his contract and a top 5 defense, and pro bowl talent around him at the same time.

If NE can draft QBs then the Ravens should take one if they are available in the middle rounds to develop.

Remember time we had two 14 point leads in NE in 2014? Yeah Flacco played pretty well that game. I honestly believe if we didn't have injuries that year we could have went to the super bowl. Our secondary was AWFUL.

Secondary was banged up I'm not gonna say awful but is why I was against that very very very bad pass to the endzone with so much time on the clock risking putting your banged up secondary back on the field to save the game! Smh Justin had a monster day and would have walked through them pats and Joe could have ran up the sidelines Hurst pancaked his man and there was no one over there! SB nation showed the footage from behind Joe something our website will not show "Things we missed" didn't air that week the safety played Joe and Joe fell for it costing costing us a Super Bowl and sent Torrey out of here unjustly!

[stuckonaboat13]

Is Ryan doing a weekly satire piece now?

[J.O.14]

57 minutes ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

Secondary was banged up I'm not gonna say awful but is why I was against that very very very bad pass to the endzone with so much time on the clock risking putting your banged up secondary back on the field to save the game! Smh Justin had a monster day and would have walked through them pats and Joe could have ran up the sidelines Hurst pancaked his man and there was no one over there! SB nation showed the footage from behind Joe something our website will not show "Things we missed" didn't air that week the safety played Joe and Joe fell for it costing costing us a Super Bowl and sent Torrey out of here unjustly!

Okay, lets talk about one play then. Also on that play, Torrey separated from the defender and from a QBs perspective was considered "open." Joe threw the ball a little to the inside but Torrey also didn't help Joe out by playing the football. We can sit here and argue that play all we want, but I'm not blaming Joe for that. That play didn't lose us the game. And yes, our secondary was awful. Melvin gave up like 200+ yards receiving.

[Crusader]

The past 3 seasons have shown me 2 things. 

1. The way Harbaugh kept our team fighting to the last second of every game in the second half of 2015 when we had nothing to play for showed me he is a highly skilled motivator. 

2. The high caliber offense we had in 2014 showed me just how important an OC is and how few really good ones there are available. We may never see another coordinator like Kubiak again. It was eye opening. 

1). So what happen in Cincinnati?
2). Looking back since Cam left, was he really that bad?

[stuckonaboat13]

23 minutes ago, Crusader said:

1). So what happen in Cincinnati?
2). Looking back since Cam left, was he really that bad?

Nope.

We always find scapegoat for Joe. Coordinator , coaching, WRs, line ...etc. Cameron was a solid football mind with players failing to execute.

[Chuckx999]

Anybody that watched the Superbowl run knows, Flacco's success was because of Boldin always winning the 50/50 matchups, Jacoby's playmaking, and defensive leadership, Joe did throw a beauty to knock of Denver out!!

Someone got it right!!! Flacco had one-two good games in his life and noW he is resting on his FAT pay checks. And what happened to our playmakers, cut by Ozzie. What happened to defensive leadership, retired and if you have "attitude" our head coach doesn't want you. We didn't need them anymore because of Ozzie's "GREAT" drafting????
FIRE Harbs and "Hire Rex Ryan' and give us back our great defensive teams.

[ellicottraven]

So if John Harbaugh says so, it must be so. Why then the heart burn fellows? If John says we have the most important piece for a championship he's right. Which team has ever won the SB without a QB. Heck even the 2000 Ravens had a QB!

[Ravens_Flock]

Joe Flacco hasn't played Championship Caliber football since the 2012 playoff run. And while he DID play well, we didn't go on that run because of him. We went on that run because of Ray Lewis. The rest of that roster played for Ray, not for Joe.

And outside of a run-heavy, solid 2014 campaign, Joe has been, to put it mildly, pretty bad.

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

For each and every one of you Flacco haters; maybe we can get Romo for cheap and have Flacco back him up because Romo has a better playoff record than Flacco and has proven he can win big games....oh wait, no he hasn't. Maybe we can trade for Matt Ryan because he's proven he can win big games when he has to. Or maybe we can get Cam Newton because he too has proven he can win big games when he needs to....right about now there aren't many QB's I would take over Flacco - Rodgers, Brady, Breese, #7 - those are the only QB's who have proven time and time again they know how to win. Give Flacco Ryan's receiving corps and let's see what he can do...

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

  On ‎3‎/‎3‎/‎2017 at 8:15 AM, J.O.14 said:

  On ‎3‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 7:36 PM, law215 said:

Joe has not looked like a championship QB in about 3 years. Sure the receivers could be better, the line could be better, play-calling etc...

However, Joe had those things before he got paid the $120M contract. The expectation was for him to become a guy to make others better. He has not. The Ravens can not afford his contract and a top 5 defense, and pro bowl talent around him at the same time.

If NE can draft QBs then the Ravens should take one if they are available in the middle rounds to develop.

Remember time we had two 14 point leads in NE in 2014? Yeah Flacco played pretty well that game. I honestly believe if we didn't have injuries that year we could have went to the super bowl. Our secondary was AWFUL.

Secondary was banged up I'm not gonna say awful but is why I was against that very very very bad pass to the endzone with so much time on the clock risking putting your banged up secondary back on the field to save the game! Smh Justin had a monster day and would have walked through them pats and Joe could have ran up the sidelines Hurst pancaked his man and there was no one over there! SB nation showed the footage from behind Joe something our website will not show "Things we missed" didn't air that week the safety played Joe and Joe fell for it costing costing us a Super Bowl and sent Torrey out of here unjustly!

Your comment along proves Joe will never be good enough in Ravens fans eyes. People argue he never takes enough deep shots and when he does people say he shouldn't have. This site is getting pathetic with the ridiculousness posted

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

On ‎3‎/‎4‎/‎2017 at 3:38 PM, Ravens_Flock said:

Joe Flacco hasn't played Championship Caliber football since the 2012 playoff run. And while he DID play well, we didn't go on that run because of him. We went on that run because of Ray Lewis. The rest of that roster played for Ray, not for Joe.

And outside of a run-heavy, solid 2014 campaign, Joe has been, to put it mildly, pretty bad.

The entire team hasn't played Championship caliber football since 2012, stop blaming it all on Flacco.  He can't keep the other teams offense from scoring, that's the defenses responsibility