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[News] John Harbaugh Anticipates Mike Wallace Will Stay With Ravens

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The Ravens head coach said contracts and the salary cap are always part of the conversation with every player, but that wide receiver Mike Wallace is a ‘top-flight competitor’ who was an ‘integral part of our team last year.’

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We need an extension there to spread his cap hits over the next 2-3 years. He could be dangerous if Flacco bounces back and also clicks with Perriman

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We need an extension there to spread his cap hits over the next 2-3 years. He could be dangerous if Flacco bounces back and also clicks with Perriman

Don't think its something we need. Not really interested in adding more years and more guaranteed money to a player so dependent on speed in his 30s.

I think you keep him for this year, and look to replace his skills with Perriman (very similar skill sets) next year if he becomes too pricey to retain.

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Losing our top 2 receivers from last year and replacing them with a draft pick and a veteran imo would be terrible. Extending Wallace is a priority. 

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would love to see us sign him to a 2-4 year deal between 3-5 mil a year

That would be a pipedream in my eyes.

A second tier WR coming off a 1,000 yard season that still has speed can easily get $6-7M a year on the open market, possibly more.

Think of it this way... we paid almost $6M a year for him for last year and this coming year, and his value has only gone up.

You'd get laughed out of the room by me if I were his agent with an offer that low.

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Losing our top 2 receivers from last year and replacing them with a draft pick and a veteran imo would be terrible. Extending Wallace is a priority. 

Not really, especially when you have young receivers on your team who just need to play better.

Just so we are clear... extending a 31 year old WR who's dependent on speed to an extension is a short-term option. Certainly solves nothing long term, and WR is a position we should be looking to overhaul, not put a band aid on.

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  24 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

We need an extension there to spread his cap hits over the next 2-3 years. He could be dangerous if Flacco bounces back and also clicks with Perriman

Don't think its something we need. Not really interested in adding more years and more guaranteed money to a player so dependent on speed in his 30s.

I think you keep him for this year, and look to replace his skills with Perriman (very similar skill sets) next year if he becomes too pricey to retain.

This is an interesting situation because Wallace seems to have quite a lot of juice left in the tank, yet he is not that Big' WR that would move into a strong slot type receiver over the end of his career.
But the Ravens don't have anyone signed for the veteran lead WR as of yet.

I think keeping is a good move, either at the current agreement or trying an extension.

Wouldn't you agree that Wallace could be a 3 year deal at 5.5- 6.5 spreading the cap and subsidizing bonus. Of course they have to convince him of that deal,

If they pick up a Garcon (8 mil) or similar type player no guarantee on longevity there. So Wallace becomes even more valuable even moving to a 2nd WR level behind Perriman.

All being said, Youth is where the Ravens need to go. Picking up a good WR in this years draft could help immensely, and I see them trying one.

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35 minutes ago, bigcatfrank1 said:

This is an interesting situation because Wallace seems to have quite a lot of juice left in the tank, yet he is not that Big' WR that would move into a strong slot type receiver over the end of his career.
But the Ravens don't have anyone signed for the veteran lead WR as of yet.

I think keeping is a good move, either at the current agreement or trying an extension.

Wouldn't you agree that Wallace could be a 3 year deal at 5.5- 6.5 spreading the cap and subsidizing bonus. Of course they have to convince him of that deal,

If they pick up a Garcon (8 mil) or similar type player no guarantee on longevity there. So Wallace becomes even more valuable even moving to a 2nd WR level behind Perriman.

All being said, Youth is where the Ravens need to go. Picking up a good WR in this years draft could help immensely, and I see them trying one.

Well, you got Wallace at nearly $6M a year last offseason, and that was at the absolute bottom of his value. He had 4 straight seasons of less than 1,000 yards, and was coming off a dreadful season in Minnesota where he averaged like 30 yards/game. He had a marginal career revival in Baltimore, so if I were him, I'm probably asking for $7-8M a year on the open market, and I think he'd get that.

So if I were him, and you wanted an extension, I'd probably be looking at least something like 3 years, $20M, with about $8-10M guaranteed.

I'm not doing that deal if I'm the Ravens. I'm certainly not looking to commit to him beyond 2018 if I'm the franchise.

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They pay Wallace for a few receiptions but they couldn't pay Bolden for all of his key receiptions. I just think Harbaugh only wants to keep the "don't talk" kind of players.
Until Ozzie and Harbaugh are gone we are in deep trouble.

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Good news, cant go into next year with bunch of no name and unproven wrs

Except for SSS, I think the Ravens have been doing just that for years.

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Yes keep Mike Wallace he is our veteran WR now! Don't want to be a rest haven for veterans to come to the Ravens and do nothing! Perriman can be our Julio Jones but the routes have to get better!

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Y would even cut him, we all ready have a lot of needs as it is, extend him sure,.

when r the ravens gonna start trimming or cutting their losses?

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  12 hours ago, ravens4life86 said:

Good news, cant go into next year with bunch of no name and unproven wrs

Except for SSS, I think the Ravens have been doing just that for years.

Right? if they want to win they get Marshall, through trade or FA if he gets there. Should just trade for him though and not take a chance

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We need an extension there to spread his cap hits over the next 2-3 years. He could be dangerous if Flacco bounces back and also clicks with Perriman

agreed

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Wallace did get 1000 last year and I understand the apparent need to keep him, but he disappeared at times, sometimes bailed on routes and occasionally had alligator arms. Just didn't show to be "that guy".

If they sign a someone like Garcon and feel Perriman is ready to roll Wallace becomes expendable.  I doubt the confidence in Perriman is there going into next season, but that line of thinking probably prevents attempts to extend Mike beyond next year.  

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1 minute ago, Tank 92 said:

Wallace did get 1000 last year and I understand the apparent need to keep him, but he disappeared at times, sometimes bailed on routes and occasionally had alligator arms. Just didn't show to be "that guy".

If they sign a someone like Garcon and feel Perriman is ready to roll Wallace becomes expendable.  I doubt the confidence in Perriman is there going into next season, but that line of thinking may prevent extending Mike beyond next year.  

I think the numbers we have him signed at is what makes him worth keeping.  They are talking about Kenny Stills getting around 12mill a year...I know hes younger but he had worse numbers.  I think with the inflation of the cap and how much WRs are going to be getting paid, i think its best to keep him.  If we cut him, i think he would get more than what we have him for. 

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12 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

I think the numbers we have him signed at is what makes him worth keeping.  They are talking about Kenny Stills getting around 12mill a year...I know hes younger but he had worse numbers.  I think with the inflation of the cap and how much WRs are going to be getting paid, i think its best to keep him.  If we cut him, i think he would get more than what we have him for. 

Yeah, I think it's a given he stays for this year, but I don't think there's much chance they choose to extend. 

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  2 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I think the numbers we have him signed at is what makes him worth keeping.  They are talking about Kenny Stills getting around 12mill a year...I know hes younger but he had worse numbers.  I think with the inflation of the cap and how much WRs are going to be getting paid, i think its best to keep him.  If we cut him, i think he would get more than what we have him for. 

Yeah, I think it's a given he stays for this year, but I don't think there's much chance they choose to extend. 

Why not? He was very productive, runs the best slant route in the league (and Joe has finally figured out how to target that route), and he has excellent speed. The have a cap crunch in 2017 that eases dramatically in 2018. Why not extend him a year or so, reduce the cap hit this year, and retain his productivity and veteran leadership for a bit longer. It's not like the guy is 37.

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4 hours ago, BigUgly said:

Why not? He was very productive, runs the best slant route in the league (and Joe has finally figured out how to target that route), and he has excellent speed. The have a cap crunch in 2017 that eases dramatically in 2018. Why not extend him a year or so, reduce the cap hit this year, and retain his productivity and veteran leadership for a bit longer. It's not like the guy is 37.

Difference in that is when a players main ability is speed they drop off much sooner than a guy like SSr.  SSr was quick but was an all around great WR. 

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