[News] Eisenberg: Ravens Have Many Tough Cap Decisions, But Mike Wallace Seems Like A Player To Keep

[BR News]

When evaluating wide receiver Mike Wallace’s status, the Ravens will ask themselves if there is a younger, cheaper way to replicate what they got from him in 2016.

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[Space11jams]

I don't see them cutting or renegotiating his contract for next season. He put up a 1000 yard season his first year with the Ravens. I say that's a really good FA pickup if you ask me. If anything, I see Arrington gone, Lewis gone, Wright gone, Doom and Webby will both take paycuts. Watson would still be on the team. Especially since we constantly have banged up guys on the roster. One of the TE's might be trade bait since we have a lot of potential at the position but Pitta, Watson and Crockett might be the lineup week one if injuries doesn't riddle any of those guys. You still have Boyle whose is really productive, Waller who is solid and Madd Maxx whose still trying to find his way. Use that cap to sign Williams and Juice. I don't think we'll get Wagner back.

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

I don't see them cutting or renegotiating his contract for next season. He put up a 1000 yard season his first year with the Ravens. I say that's a really good FA pickup if you ask me. If anything, I see Arrington gone, Lewis gone, Wright gone, Doom and Webby will both take paycuts. Watson would still be on the team. Especially since we constantly have banged up guys on the roster. One of the TE's might be trade bait since we have a lot of potential at the position but Pitta, Watson and Crockett might be the lineup week one if injuries doesn't riddle any of those guys. You still have Boyle whose is really productive, Waller who is solid and Madd Maxx whose still trying to find his way. Use that cap to sign Williams and Juice. I don't think we'll get Wagner back.

weeb needs to go we HAVE to get better at safety doom won't accept a pay cut so he must go keep Wallace receivers getting 17 mill a year he's a no brainer for what he makes and all you fans who want alson Jeffery forget about it his salary will be way to high no receiver is worth 17 mill a year

[OriolesMagicPlease]

You have to keep Wallace. If he goes there wouldn't be any reliability at that position. Definitely not what the team needs.

[rmcjacket23]

I don't see them cutting or renegotiating his contract for next season. He put up a 1000 yard season his first year with the Ravens. I say that's a really good FA pickup if you ask me. If anything, I see Arrington gone, Lewis gone, Wright gone, Doom and Webby will both take paycuts. Watson would still be on the team. Especially since we constantly have banged up guys on the roster. One of the TE's might be trade bait since we have a lot of potential at the position but Pitta, Watson and Crockett might be the lineup week one if injuries doesn't riddle any of those guys. You still have Boyle whose is really productive, Waller who is solid and Madd Maxx whose still trying to find his way. Use that cap to sign Williams and Juice. I don't think we'll get Wagner back.

1. I don't see a way that Dumervil takes a paycut, specifically when he's due just $6M. That's a reasonable price tag for him, and he would get that much on the open market anyway. He's a cut or keep guy, not a paycut candidate in my eyes.

2. Webb is in similar spot. He just took a paycut last season, and he probably thinks he had a good year, which is debatable. A paycut for him would only be like $1-2M anyway. He's a cut or keep guy also.

3. I don't see how Watson is on this team much longer. He's got very little dead money, and it simply makes no sense to keep a player at his age and his most recent injury on the roster. None of our TEs are worth anything in a trade, because we don't even know if any of them are any good.

Too many young bodies at that position to keep both Watson and Pitta.

[Purple Dawg 96]

The Ravens are not a "Rest Haven" for veterans but I like Mike Wallace and his speed! Need better routes double moves and stop and go's and better ball location out of Joe to make everything Ozzie and Co. do work! Bellichick gets players from small schools like Ozzie and Co. are doing but they have Brady! And when things go wrong in Bmore because of you know who everyone starts to question Ozzie and Co. Keep Mike Wallace or get another player like Campy that will stay healthy! Keep finding hidden jewels from small schools! Super Bowls are the goal not breaking the bank and The Ravens have that "Birds Eye" finding talent and I'm not worried not one bit! Well the only position worries me is QB that's it IM GOOD! In Ozzie and Co. "I TRUST"!

[bigcatfrank1]

  6 hours ago, Space11jams said:

I don't see them cutting or renegotiating his contract for next season. He put up a 1000 yard season his first year with the Ravens. I say that's a really good FA pickup if you ask me. If anything, I see Arrington gone, Lewis gone, Wright gone, Doom and Webby will both take paycuts. Watson would still be on the team. Especially since we constantly have banged up guys on the roster. One of the TE's might be trade bait since we have a lot of potential at the position but Pitta, Watson and Crockett might be the lineup week one if injuries doesn't riddle any of those guys. You still have Boyle whose is really productive, Waller who is solid and Madd Maxx whose still trying to find his way. Use that cap to sign Williams and Juice. I don't think we'll get Wagner back.

weeb needs to go we HAVE to get better at safety doom won't accept a pay cut so he must go keep Wallace receivers getting 17 mill a year he's a no brainer for what he makes and all you fans who want alson Jeffery forget about it his salary will be way to high no receiver is worth 17 mill a year

Webb cannot go, every CB on the Ravens didn't play as well as Webb played at Safety and it was his first year in the position.
And all of them needs to go except Smith and Young. There is the position that needs cleaning house!

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

I hope they keep Wallace around for a while.

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  6 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  6 hours ago, Space11jams said:

I don't see them cutting or renegotiating his contract for next season. He put up a 1000 yard season his first year with the Ravens. I say that's a really good FA pickup if you ask me. If anything, I see Arrington gone, Lewis gone, Wright gone, Doom and Webby will both take paycuts. Watson would still be on the team. Especially since we constantly have banged up guys on the roster. One of the TE's might be trade bait since we have a lot of potential at the position but Pitta, Watson and Crockett might be the lineup week one if injuries doesn't riddle any of those guys. You still have Boyle whose is really productive, Waller who is solid and Madd Maxx whose still trying to find his way. Use that cap to sign Williams and Juice. I don't think we'll get Wagner back.

weeb needs to go we HAVE to get better at safety doom won't accept a pay cut so he must go keep Wallace receivers getting 17 mill a year he's a no brainer for what he makes and all you fans who want alson Jeffery forget about it his salary will be way to high no receiver is worth 17 mill a year

Webb cannot go, every CB on the Ravens didn't play as well as Webb played at Safety and it was his first year in the position.
And all of them needs to go except Smith and Young. There is the position that needs cleaning house!

I agree about the CB's but dude what games did you watch because webb sucked and by the way webb played safety in college

[bigcatfrank1]

Wallace should stay, both he and Ravens will not get a better deal. It would cost the Ravens at least 8Mill or more to replace his production considering he has about 3 mil in dead money if they let him go. So they save 5 mil, it will not pay for a comparable WR.

Garcon at 8 mil is doable letting Aiken go and SS Sr.$. Pick up a Rookie in the draft and go with Perriman, Wallace, Garcon, Moore, Mathews, K Renolds and the Rookie. ( one will land on the practice squad) 6 spots

TE- keep the 3 young bucks, Waller, Gilmore and Boyle- Williams needs to earn a spot -3spots

Let Pitta go and Watson go, Let Allen go, pick up Latavius Murray YEP and draft a Rookie added to Dixon, Juice and West - 5 spots

Now there you have some playmakers!
lastly, O line- Stanley- Lewis- Elflien(R)- Yanda - Nembot/Urshel b/u- Decasse, Jensen, De'Ondre, Broxton, Puhgsley - 9

Flacco = 24 Offense mark this down for the earliest offense picked, lol.

[bigcatfrank1]

ok since I picked the offense... defense is a little harder. lets start back to front-

CB- Smith, Young, FA, Sidney Jones (R) and a post draft/ufa - 5 spots
S- Weddle- Webb- Desmond King (R) - Huff - Levine - 5 spots
LB- Suggs- Correa, Judon, Mc Clellan, Mosley, Za Smith, Onwasor, Okombo = 8 Spots
D-line- Williams, Guy, Urban, Jernigan, Pierce, Kaufusi, Demarkus Walker (R)= 7 spots = 25

Tucker, Koch, Cox

Ok so I just picked the 2017 Ravens lol. I know I am out there...but I can try.

[bigcatfrank1]

ok since I picked the offense... defense is a little harder. lets start back to front-

CB- Smith, Young, FA, Sidney Jones (R) and a post draft/ufa - 5 spots
S- Weddle- Webb- Desmond King (R) - Huff - Levine - 5 spots
LB- Suggs- Correa, Judon, Mc Clellan, Mosley, Za Smith, Onwasor, Okombo = 8 Spots
D-line- Williams, Guy, Urban, Jernigan, Pierce, Kaufusi, Demarkus Walker (R)= 7 spots = 25

Tucker, Koch, Cox

Ok so I just picked the 2017 Ravens lol. I know I am out there...but I can try.

oh if you didn't notice - Ravens let the following players go- Dumervil, K Lewis, Arrington, All the CB except Smith and Young.
ps- Willie Henry will make the team so one of the DL will go to PS.

[ellicottraven]

Getting rid of Wallace will be the worst decision made by the front office since at least Boldin's trade to SF. The only reason Flacco was even reasonably average last year was thanks to Wallace's yards after catch and making TDs happen out of short slants. He is the only player on offense that could be termed a play maker. There is nobody else on this offense that is a playmaker (excluding the O-line and Yanda of course). Flacco has been terrible the past few years and the coaches don't want to run the ball. So, if Wallace is cut then I don't expect Flacco to have any improvement over last year's performance but in fact could be much worse. Flacco needs more Wallace like weapons not less. He doesn't need 3-5 yd dump offs to Pitta in a 3 and 8 yard situation. We need to cut Pitta immediately. He is the one we need to get rid off ASAP along with others like Wright, Webb, Kendrick Lewis, Arrington, maybe Dumervil, Watson but most definitely Pitta.

[davy_861]

Getting rid of Wallace will be the worst decision made by the front office since at least Boldin's trade to SF. The only reason Flacco was even reasonably average last year was thanks to Wallace's yards after catch and making TDs happen out of short slants. He is the only player on offense that could be termed a play maker. There is nobody else on this offense that is a playmaker (excluding the O-line and Yanda of course). Flacco has been terrible the past few years and the coaches don't want to run the ball. So, if Wallace is cut then I don't expect Flacco to have any improvement over last year's performance but in fact could be much worse. Flacco needs more Wallace like weapons not less. He doesn't need 3-5 yd dump offs to Pitta in a 3 and 8 yard situation. We need to cut Pitta immediately. He is the one we need to get rid off ASAP along with others like Wright, Webb, Kendrick Lewis, Arrington, maybe Dumervil, Watson but most definitely Pitta.

Great post. Perriman can be a playmaker too though. Let's hope that his catching improves and the coaches get creative with him.

[The Beak]

The fact is the Ravens FO must find a way to get younger and more talented, this will mean hard cuts across the board, I am with most of you in hoping Mike Wallace is not one of the cuts made.

[letitgosometimes]

Wallace is a playmaker; he'll have a great season in 2017.

[sizzlingdoom]

Getting rid of Wallace will be the worst decision made by the front office since at least Boldin's trade to SF. The only reason Flacco was even reasonably average last year was thanks to Wallace's yards after catch and making TDs happen out of short slants. He is the only player on offense that could be termed a play maker. There is nobody else on this offense that is a playmaker (excluding the O-line and Yanda of course). Flacco has been terrible the past few years and the coaches don't want to run the ball. So, if Wallace is cut then I don't expect Flacco to have any improvement over last year's performance but in fact could be much worse. Flacco needs more Wallace like weapons not less. He doesn't need 3-5 yd dump offs to Pitta in a 3 and 8 yard situation. We need to cut Pitta immediately. He is the one we need to get rid off ASAP along with others like Wright, Webb, Kendrick Lewis, Arrington, maybe Dumervil, Watson but most definitely Pitta.

Amen to all of that. Especially Getting rid of Pitta. I like both of their pass catching abilities, but our run game would be a whole different animal with Boyle and Gilmore blocking. Then hopefully Maxx can catch some passes......might be ANOTHER wasted pick though

[Saxxin]

See a lot of Flacco hate. He was laid up for half the season and damn near the entire off season. He manned up and even admiited it was a problem. But haters will hate. The ravens WILL keep Wallace, he'll get get the off season practice with Joe he never got got last year. So will Perriman. The passing game will be better next season because of it. Focus on the o-line, we have the recievers in place. Why screw that up? RB's are solid across the board. The ONLY thing the offense needs is a better front 5 IMO. Perriman, Wallace and Aiken with a healthy off season Flacco to get in rhythm is a dangerous combination they have a solid O-line. Release the hounds (Dixon and West) early on and those 3 WR'S an be a nightmare for any defese that won't know if they should stack the box or play deep. But it all starts in the trenches. something the ravens haven't put a focus on it to long and it shows. Beef up the 0-line and this offense will take off.

[sizzlingdoom]

Our wrs next year-
Mike Wallace
Brandon Marshall
Breshad Perriman
Chris Moore
Campanaro (get healthy somehow man!)
+ 1 or 2 rookies

Seems like we say it every season now......and it's mainly because he's never had great wrs. But imo that would be the best wr core Flacco's ever had

[Grapple Raven]

I am really hoping the Ravens don't pass on Zay Jones. If they can't see his worth somebody needs some eye glasses. lol

[billiejean]

1 hour ago, Grapple Raven said:

I am really hoping the Ravens don't pass on Zay Jones. If they can't see his worth somebody needs some eye glasses. lol

That guys body control is pretty remarkable.

Edited March 1 by billiejean

[BigUgly]

19 hours ago, Space11jams said:

I don't see them cutting or renegotiating his contract for next season. He put up a 1000 yard season his first year with the Ravens. I say that's a really good FA pickup if you ask me. If anything, I see Arrington gone, Lewis gone, Wright gone, Doom and Webby will both take paycuts. Watson would still be on the team. Especially since we constantly have banged up guys on the roster. One of the TE's might be trade bait since we have a lot of potential at the position but Pitta, Watson and Crockett might be the lineup week one if injuries doesn't riddle any of those guys. You still have Boyle whose is really productive, Waller who is solid and Madd Maxx whose still trying to find his way. Use that cap to sign Williams and Juice. I don't think we'll get Wagner back.

I see them likely extending Wallace's contract, and adding a year or two with more bonus money.  We'll have the cap room to absorb any dead money in 2018 and '19 should Wallace fail to work out.

[Obie]

Easy fix, get rid of flacco, save all that cap money and buy a bunch of players, don't need a half a-- qb, remember 2000, aka dilfer?

[The Greek]

Our wrs next year-
Mike Wallace
Brandon Marshall
Breshad Perriman
Chris Moore
Campanaro (get healthy somehow man!)
+ 1 or 2 rookies

Seems like we say it every season now......and it's mainly because he's never had great wrs. But imo that would be the best wr core Flacco's ever had

that would be a solid group if they stay healthy and the o-line stays healthy than no more excuses for flacco can be made

[whobilly]

Considering Wallace is the ONLY NFL WR we have on the roster I hope they keep him.

[whobilly]

Easy fix, get rid of flacco, save all that cap money and buy a bunch of players, don't need a half a-- qb, remember 2000, aka dilfer?

It would be an easier fix if fans(?) posting comments had an understanding of how contracts/cap space work.

[whobilly]

Easy fix, get rid of flacco, save all that cap money and buy a bunch of players, don't need a half a-- qb, remember 2000, aka dilfer?

This Ravens D would be laughed off the field by the 2000 D.

[rmcjacket23]

  20 hours ago, Space11jams said:

I don't see them cutting or renegotiating his contract for next season. He put up a 1000 yard season his first year with the Ravens. I say that's a really good FA pickup if you ask me. If anything, I see Arrington gone, Lewis gone, Wright gone, Doom and Webby will both take paycuts. Watson would still be on the team. Especially since we constantly have banged up guys on the roster. One of the TE's might be trade bait since we have a lot of potential at the position but Pitta, Watson and Crockett might be the lineup week one if injuries doesn't riddle any of those guys. You still have Boyle whose is really productive, Waller who is solid and Madd Maxx whose still trying to find his way. Use that cap to sign Williams and Juice. I don't think we'll get Wagner back.

I see them likely extending Wallace's contract, and adding a year or two with more bonus money.  We'll have the cap room to absorb any dead money in 2018 and '19 should Wallace fail to work out.

I wouldn't do that.

If I'm the FO, the last thing I'm interested in doing is extending the contract of a WR who's biggest attribute is speed who is aging.

Particularly when it would seem that, with proper development, you already have at least one WR on the roster who shares similar skill sets, is cheaper, and is younger.

I'm keeping Wallace for this year, and moving on after the season.

[Chuckx999]

If he's going to cost $8m why did they let a real proven and important player like Bolden leave when he wanted $6m ??? Our front office is becoming a JOKE !!!!
They can't draft, can't figure out who to keep. I'm not sure how many TE's we have that can't catch or even get on the field. They gave "old 3 and out Flacco" a zillion dollars to be a below average QB and eat up our cap space money.

The owner has to make changes and real SOON!!!!!!!!

[Obie]

Guys, it's a simple game , would you rather have one so so player or 10 good ones, do the math, we've won before without a qb but had a lot of other good players.