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  20 hours ago, usmccharles said:
  On ‎2‎/‎22‎/‎2017 at 4:36 AM, OzzieBisciotti said:

I would rather take Verrnon Davis than any of the scrubs TEs we have now. Why do we even bother bringing in Watson on a one year rental contract? These moves by Ozzie drive fans crazy- play makers fill the stadium - not 37 yr old TEs - I know we're crippled by bad drafts but still.. It's like the safety position for us- we have drafted so many safeties over the years but Oz still can't find a good one through the draft- maybe the real problem is the FO

I can promise you filling the stadium is not an issue, we had 100% capacity last year.   Every position cant be a play-maker, that's just not realistic.  I can also promise you we have never signed someone based on the possibility of attendance increasing.  A simple google search can reveal a lot of info, like... I don't know...facts.  From 2008 on (I didn't go back further) we have been basically at a 100% attendance. 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance/_/year/2008          We have no issues filling the seats. 

  On ‎2‎/‎22‎/‎2017 at 6:30 AM, zing21042 said:

I think that many are missing the point. I would rather a team of Steve Smith Sr's (37 yrs old), Anquan Bolden's (36 years old ), Tom Bradys (40 yrs old at the beginning of next season), and James Harrisons (38 yrs old) than a bunch of young Perrimans. Age (within reason) is not the deciding factor. Yanda (32) has been Probowl quality since day 1; Zuttah (30) belongs with the fishes. The players listed above play with conviction and passion. They play with heart. These are characters you simply cannot teach and it is something that is lacking on both sides of the ball in the Ravens, especially since we now lost Smith Sr.

When we lost some of our greats i.e. Lewis and Read, we also lost the soul of this team. That is something that we need to find to become winners again. We no longer have leaders to call out the youngsters and tell them to shape up; to get the job done. Instead, we have an overpaid "Cool Joe". As much as I hate Brady, when his receivers screw up, he is all over them. Joe, he just sits on the bench hoping for a defensive stop.

So, while I understand from where the age thing is coming, in my mind a productive and passionate player on social security, is far better than a young player who ends up on injured reserve every time the wind changes direction.

I am with you on the first paragraph, I have no issues bringing in older vets that know how to do their job and provide that veteran presence.  Imagine if we could of got SSr about two years sooner.  So yea, I am with you on most of that paragraph.

The next paragraph, not so much.  We have plenty of people that have no issue calling people out because they haven't done their job, I have seen Joe do it numerous times.  But here's a news flash, Joe is not Tom Brady, he never will be.  And this whole overpaid thing is just not accurate, like many have discussed on here, as do I, its called "market value."   The only other option was to let Joe walk after he just had the best post-season of a QB in NFL history (tied with Montana), I don't know how you could justify that.  Also didn't help we got rid of his favorite target in Boldin and expected Pitta to step up more, and got hurt.  I am one of the people that think the FO has not done a sufficient job at give Joe weapons around him.  The moment he would of hit FA he would of most likely got paid more by teams like Oakland, Cleveland, Jacksonville, etc...its simple economics. 

usmccharles = eric dacosta

Three years ago if you had asked the fans who was the team leader on the Ravens, one name would float to the top with a couple close seconds. Today...Ask the fans who is the team leader and if you asked 20 fans you would get 20 different answers.

I agree that Flacco is no Tom Brady...functionally...but he also is not a team leader and does not play this game with any level of passion or urgency. You cannot tell me that you feel his 2 minute offense is any different than his 60 minute offense. His concept of running the hurry-up offense is to take 30 seconds to hike the ball instead of 40 seconds; that does not bode well when there are only 60 seconds on the clock. Rothlesberger beat us with 57 seconds and no time outs.

You are correct...the Ravens priced Joe's market value based upon his post-season play of 4 games; not his normal season play of 16 games. Had that entered the mix, they would have seen things differently. His QB rating that year (\which I assume included his stellar post season play) was only a few points higher than this year. How many times did Joe even throw a ball past 20 yards this year? Hey, we dumped Trent Dilfer after winning the 2000 SB. His play was not bad...just average. Also, we did not need exceptional play from a quarterback that year; our defense won the SB.

Regardless of Joe's salary,the problem is that forever, the Ravens have not managed their funds very well. Every year we loose the best in the league to salary cap and we pay for it; this year will be no different. We will lose 3 probowl players. Also, I disagree...this year we had some damn good receivers; Joe just decided not to look for them. So is that the fault of the receiver?

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11 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

The Ravens poor FO and awful coaching is what's hard to handle

Once again... Not happy with the drafting as of late.  I've said it numerous times.

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6 hours ago, zing21042 said:

Three years ago if you had asked the fans who was the team leader on the Ravens, one name would float to the top with a couple close seconds. Today...Ask the fans who is the team leader and if you asked 20 fans you would get 20 different answers.

I agree that Flacco is no Tom Brady...functionally...but he also is not a team leader and does not play this game with any level of passion or urgency. You cannot tell me that you feel his 2 minute offense is any different than his 60 minute offense. His concept of running the hurry-up offense is to take 30 seconds to hike the ball instead of 40 seconds; that does not bode well when there are only 60 seconds on the clock. Rothlesberger beat us with 57 seconds and no time outs.

You are correct...the Ravens priced Joe's market value based upon his post-season play of 4 games; not his normal season play of 16 games. Had that entered the mix, they would have seen things differently. His QB rating that year (\which I assume included his stellar post season play) was only a few points higher than this year. How many times did Joe even throw a ball past 20 yards this year? Hey, we dumped Trent Dilfer after winning the 2000 SB. His play was not bad...just average. Also, we did not need exceptional play from a quarterback that year; our defense won the SB.

Regardless of Joe's salary,the problem is that forever, the Ravens have not managed their funds very well. Every year we loose the best in the league to salary cap and we pay for it; this year will be no different. We will lose 3 probowl players. Also, I disagree...this year we had some damn good receivers; Joe just decided not to look for them. So is that the fault of the receiver?

I would and I think most fans of this team would says Suggs is the leader and I don't think there would be much hesitation. 

So you think the FO just ignored Joes whole career and just gave him the contract off of 4 post-season games?  Yea im gonna say nope on that, How much would you have offered him?  I cant tell  you his 2min offense is different that the normal offense, that's my opinion, I have seen him march us down the field many times.  Pit had a 1:17 left on the clock and a time out, week 16.  h, might help that he has a top 3 WR and most likely the best RB in football, the Steelers have a awesome WR corps. 

Ill agree that we have handed out some dumb contracts like Pitta, Webb was iffy, I agreed with the Rice signing.  What do you mean "we lose the best in the league every year?"  I mean, if you want to say we had some pretty damn good receivers that's your opinion, I just highly disagree.  SSr was injured and was a shell of himself and Wallace wasn't anything special, either was BP, so I don't really know how you think we had a damn good receiving corps.  What 3 pro-bowlers are we losing, I assume you think both Wagner and Bwill is gone, who is the third....and judging players by the pro-bowl is a joke.  However I do agree Joe focused on Pitta too much and I hope we cut him. 

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