[News] Late For Work 2/21: Is WR Pierre Garcon's Subtle Message Good News For Ravens?

[RaRaRavens]

On 2/21/2017 at 5:11 PM, rmcjacket23 said:

Gonna bookmark this paragraph and wait until you see how much Tony Romo and Jay Cutler get paid in FA this season, as proof to validate what Joe's value would be worth (plus inflation) 2 years from now when that happens.

Should give me a good chuckle.

So how's your bookmark working out for you. Reportedly literally no early interest in Cutler to the extent, that he hinted retirement. Still think a below average QB like Flacco is worth being paid 24,5 mil?

 

Just to add the source: “(He’s) one of several veterans who are still considering whether they want to play, whether they want to not play, retire, walk away,” NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport said Wednesday on NFL Total Access. “A lot of things in play here for Jay Cutler.” The Cardinals, one of the possible landing sports for Cutler noted they have ‘zero interest’ in the QB.

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[Militant X 1]

On 2/21/2017 at 1:14 PM, Ravensfan23 said:

Flacco's contract isn't hurting the Ravens as much as people think. Over the first 3 years of the original contract, Flacco's cap hit was really team friendly. Since signing Flacco to the original contract, the team signed, Pitta, Jimmy, Monroe, Yanda, Tucker, Koch and Weddle to big deals. That doesn't include locking up guys like Zuttah, Wright, SSS, Forsett and Watson to deals that weren't big but the team thought these players would contribute a lot. They also made competitive offers to Torrey and KO.

Flacco's contract hasn't hurt the team, that's just the perception going around. What has hurt the Ravens is these long term commitments and young draft picks not playing well over the last 3-4 years. The Ravens have been among the top of the league in dead money over the last 3-4 years because of poor contracts. Injuries have hurt as well. 

Flacco certainly has to play better and play up to his contract, but he hasn't stopped the team from signing anyone. Boldin was traded because the Ravens didn't think he could perform as well moving forward. Torrey wasn't a guy the Ravens would pay 10Mil for, especially since they have so much success getting close to over the hill WRs who can perform just as well as Torrey and no way they were paying KO LT money without being 100% sure he was the answer there which no one could honestly say. 

Seeing Flacco struggle on a huge contract sucks, but the reality is, the Ravens don't commit big money to outside players often and the guys they wanted to keep here they have. Flacco has to play better, but the Ravens were banking on guys like Perriman, Maxx, Brooks, Elam, Davis, Smith, Timmy, Taliafero, Buck and others to really step their games up and be the new era of players to keep the team performing well and that just hasn't happened. 

Very well said my man!  

 

[concretejimmy]

Only a few FAs I would want the Ravens to sign. Actually one I feel is a priority. Ronald Leary, especially there's a good chance that Wagner might be gone. Garcon, but his price tag might be too high. I'm waiting for Jets cuts. Brandon Marshall might end up with a reasonable price tag. Nick Mangold? Need to nail this draft. Adding Stanley and Alex Lewis was huge last draft. I'm fine with cutting players and reloading in this draft but still have the personnel to make a run. Add a couple of the right players. This draft might be better than last year. If the Ravens can trade back and still get the guy they want. Nine picks is better than eight. Comp picks are tradable.

[rmcjacket23]

On 2/23/2017 at 2:33 AM, RaRaRavens said:

So how's your bookmark working out for you. Reportedly literally no early interest in Cutler to the extent, that he hinted retirement. Still think a below average QB like Flacco is worth being paid 24,5 mil?

 

Just to add the source: “(He’s) one of several veterans who are still considering whether they want to play, whether they want to not play, retire, walk away,” NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport said Wednesday on NFL Total Access. “A lot of things in play here for Jay Cutler.” The Cardinals, one of the possible landing sports for Cutler noted they have ‘zero interest’ in the QB.

So far its working the same as when I posted it, since literally nothing has changed since I posted it.

Certainly wouldn't be the first time that Rapoport completely whiffs on something, and I'm sure I'll read a completely contradictory report within a few days.

Welcome to the NFL offseason. Where nobody knows anything.

[OUravensfan]

On 2/21/2017 at 4:37 PM, mendii said:

Come ask me to compare Joe to all those other teams QBs this time next year. Another season of sub-mediocrity and I'm selling my Flacco jersey. As of right now... I'd take Tannehill, Dalton, Alex Smith, or Philip Rivers. I'm even tempted to look at young guys like Wentz, and I'm also a huge UCF homer... so maybe Blake Bortles can turn it around?

I'd love to see Dalton on the Raven teams of the last 3 years just to prove my point, no Green, no Eifert, no consistent  WR separation 

[Swift 1]

On 2/22/2017 at 8:41 AM, ibleedpurpleandblack said:

It's more than just hindsight here with Flacco and his salary.

First, people are forgetting that two very important things happened that altered the success of the Ravens the following year. (1) Ray Rice was expelled from the league - we lost our pro-bowl caliber RB so there went our run game that we were so dependent on the previous year and (2) Boldin was offered a contract according to the value the Ravens deemed he deserved, as such he refused and ultimately was traded. Then (3) Pitta went out with a broken hip. So while we want to say Flacco hasn't lived up to his contract the truth of the matter the entire team failed to live up to their expectations.

I really wish people would stop with the Flacco bs; In 2014 Ngata's cap hit was $14 million - did he produce at $14 million - NO!!!! Is that Flacco's fault, NO!!! IN 2015 Ngata's cap hit was $7.5 million and he was playing for Detroit!!!! Flacco's fault, NOPE!!

IN 2014 Ray Rice's Cap hit was $6 million and in 2015 his cap hit was $9 million - paid him $15 million to not even play!!!! Is that Flacco's fault, NO!!!!

There is so much more going on with this team than just Flacco and his contract.
 

I wish you put Ngata's cap hit in bold print. I would be willing to bet that more than half of these haters don't know that his hit was greater than Flacco's

 

Edited February 27 by Swift 1