[News] Late For Work 2/15: Here's What Mike Mayock's Top 5 Position Rankings Suggest To Ravens

[RowdyMan52]

  2 hours ago, RowdyMan52 said:

I believe we will draft a special player which ever way the board fall at 16, we will have options. I would love for us to get a proven young vet at the WR spot I been banging the drum for Kenny Stills and will continue to because he is the best fit for our offense, unless we magically nab B. Marshall.. And the notion we should fear Tyrod going to Cleveland is the best joke I heard since the offseason started I mean honestly I love Tyrod and wish him the best but if he decide to go to the Browns then he should be the one worried playing our defense twice a year.. Never have we feared any quarterback in this division let alone the Browns.. Here's to a great offseason can't wait to see how we shape out for '17 season!! #GORAVENS

I don't know if your being serious or not.  McCown has torched us for 450 yards, Ben has thrown for 6 TDs on us, Dalton has picked us apart before.  If Tyrod went to the Browns, he could do some damage there, they have good weapons and have 2 first round picks.   This mentality of bashing the Browns is a little out of order considering how tough they play us.  Werent they beating us 21-0 at halftime this year or something... We may not fear a QB, but I bet you we respect them

We come closer to the playoff's more than any other team in this division.. I am no way saying we are perfect but if you play scared or worried football because of who is lined up on the other side of the ball we would not have the success we have had in the previous years.. We don't play ball for Sept. we play for Jan. and even though we came short for the last couple of years we are not that far off.. Could be worst you could be a Browns or Jag fan , etc.!! I respect all QB'S and team's for that matter but I would never fear any because we can play with the best any time we want too..

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

How's Tryrod Talor bad news for the ravens if he signs with Cleveland He Sucks some people don't know what their talking about

[Drew P]

Just now, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

How's Tryrod Talor bad news for the ravens if he signs with Cleveland He Sucks some people don't know what their talking about

 

Because he'll be the next spare for CLE to drop 400+ yards on the Ravens

[sami]

most fans don't want to hear this but since the DB class is so deep it would be better for the Ravens to pick something other than a DB for the first and maybe second rounds.

[Big Daddy 13]

Ravens have overlooked local talent in the past (i.e.: Diggs from Maryland). There are 2 strong candidates down the road in Blacksburg VA (Virginia Tech) that are high on the Mel Kipers list. Isiah Ford (WR) and Bucky Hodges (TE). Hodges has the same build and strength at Gronkowski with NE and Ford is similar to Smith Sr and can even return kicks (would risk him as Punt Returner)

[RavenRampage]

I know we need some new blood in the secondary, but I think offensive linemen early would be just as valuable. Football is won in the trenches after all. We have to run the ball better or we won't be a good team. If corners are going early and often, which could very well happen, I think we should keep our eye out for a couple guys.

Mike McGlinchy out of Notre Dame is a solid run blocker and could be the right tackle we need to replace Wagner. Mason Cole out of Michigan is an option at center to replace Zuttah this upcoming season or the next one.

[Chuckx999]

Tryrod Talor bad news for the ravens if he signs with Cleveland, you bet. He knows our "OLD" defense and will run circles around those old guys. He also knows our "3 and out Flacco" isn't getting better, he's getting worse. The Browns or any NFL team will love having the Ravens on their schedule.
The players are too OLD, too SLOW and coaching isn't that great either. We are stuck with 8 and 8 being a good year.

[usmccharles]

41 minutes ago, Crusader said:

I wonder where this world is going to when a simple question become a big ordeal. Maybe I should responded in Spanish, Russian or something.

I didn't realize it became a big ordeal....

38 minutes ago, RowdyMan52 said:

We come closer to the playoff's more than any other team in this division.. I am no way saying we are perfect but if you play scared or worried football because of who is lined up on the other side of the ball we would not have the success we have had in the previous years.. We don't play ball for Sept. we play for Jan. and even though we came short for the last couple of years we are not that far off.. Could be worst you could be a Browns or Jag fan , etc.!! I respect all QB'S and team's for that matter but I would never fear any because we can play with the best any time we want too..

I just took what you said as in there is no reason to worry at all about other qbs in our division like we have Tom Brady and his competition. 

6 minutes ago, Chuckx999 said:

Tryrod Talor bad news for the ravens if he signs with Cleveland, you bet. He knows our "OLD" defense and will run circles around those old guys. He also knows our "3 and out Flacco" isn't getting better, he's getting worse. The Browns or any NFL team will love having the Ravens on their schedule.
The players are too OLD, too SLOW and coaching isn't that great either. We are stuck with 8 and 8 being a good year.

Your positive outlook is encouraging.

[Azzi22]

  1 hour ago, Azzi22 said:

  1 hour ago, usmccharles said:

  1 hour ago, Azzi22 said:

Hes been in 1(KC).. same with Perriman.. but they are BUSTS?

That was his answer to your question.  "Their not in the NFL after 4 years of trying."

lets give them 4 years before we label them busts is what im trying to say... sorry my English isn't the best..... From Beirut Lebanon.. middle east...

I wonder where this world is going to when a simple question become a big ordeal. Maybe I should responded in Spanish, Russian or something.

try arabic

[rmcjacket23]

Tryrod Talor bad news for the ravens if he signs with Cleveland, you bet. He knows our "OLD" defense and will run circles around those old guys. He also knows our "3 and out Flacco" isn't getting better, he's getting worse. The Browns or any NFL team will love having the Ravens on their schedule.
The players are too OLD, too SLOW and coaching isn't that great either. We are stuck with 8 and 8 being a good year.

Yup, just like he ran circles around us a few months back when he played us. Those 11 rushing yards and 111 passing yards he torched us with really had our old defense quaking in their boots.

Its like you people don't even watch games...

[rmcjacket23]

  1 hour ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

How's Tryrod Talor bad news for the ravens if he signs with Cleveland He Sucks some people don't know what their talking about

 

Because he'll be the next spare for CLE to drop 400+ yards on the Ravens

And probably still lose the game, so it won't matter.

[rmcjacket23]

  2 hours ago, billiejean said:

  2 hours ago, Crusader said:

"Serious Question, how do you guys determine who's a BUST OR NOT?" Their not in the NFL after 4 years of trying.

Cmon crusader read the whole response. He wasn't talking about how to determine a bust after a guy is in the NFL for four years.

The question mark ends the sentence. Simple question if you ask me "How....do.....you....guys....determine...who's....a.....BUST....or.....NOT?"

The exact same way you determine who is talented or not. You stick your thumb in the air and whichever the way the wind blows is whether they are great or a bust.

And there's nothing in between with fans either. Its HOF or bust.

[The Beak]

The Ravens have enough to worry about (how to get past 8-8) than to care if Cleveland picks up a backup QB(Taylor) the Ravens FO should know this is one of the most Critical off-season's we have here in like forever. Oz and company needs to get this Draft right this year. this could be the year where it may benefit us to trade up and get a star rather to trade back to get role players...

Edited February 15 by The Beak

[Purple Dawg 96]

Harbs went to that school up north and is why I feel he isn't getting OSU Buckeyes or not too many from Ohio except John Simon whom is gone I understand and Juice! The squeelers are doing it though Big Ben LaVeon Bell James Harrison all from Ohio Cameron Hayward Ryan Schazier hope I spelled it correctly OSU Buckeyes! Bellichick got Julian Edelman Kent state close to me and where Juice from! Dallas got Big Zeke smh do I need to keep on going because I can!

[steelcityraven]

  3 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

How's Tryrod Talor bad news for the ravens if he signs with Cleveland He Sucks some people don't know what their talking about

 

Because he'll be the next spare for CLE to drop 400+ yards on the Ravens

That is what we have with Dean Pees.... bend but don't break philosophy. We give up a ton of yards and let them move up and down the field on us (limiting our offense and wearing down our defense)...
Bend but don't break (until the 4th quarter with the game on the line). Our defense is worn out and we give up the game winning score and scratch our heads some more - wondering why we are always so close but always seem to drop games that we should have won!
SMH

[Swift 1]

12 minutes ago, steelcityraven said:

That is what we have with Dean Pees.... bend but don't break philosophy. We give up a ton of yards and let them move up and down the field on us (limiting our offense and wearing down our defense)...
Bend but don't break (until the 4th quarter with the game on the line). Our defense is worn out and we give up the game winning score and scratch our heads some more - wondering why we are always so close but always seem to drop games that we should have won!
SMH

I swear in my alternate universe we beat the Browns twice last year again. In my dream I attended one of the games but missed the go ahead td because I was in the head.

 

[Ravens8383]

Harbs went to that school up north and is why I feel he isn't getting OSU Buckeyes or not too many from Ohio except John Simon whom is gone I understand and Juice! The squeelers are doing it though Big Ben LaVeon Bell James Harrison all from Ohio Cameron Hayward Ryan Schazier hope I spelled it correctly OSU Buckeyes! Bellichick got Julian Edelman Kent state close to me and where Juice from! Dallas got Big Zeke smh do I need to keep on going because I can!

Are you talking about John Harbaugh? Because I think he went to Miami Ohio....

[whobilly]

Would not surprise me if the Browns picked up Tyrod. What else would you expect from the Browns. They will always be 3 years away from being 5 years away.

[whobilly]

So we picked Perriman with our #1 pick because we envisioned him morphing into Torrrey Smith? Sad.

[whobilly]

  38 minutes ago, steelcityraven said:

That is what we have with Dean Pees.... bend but don't break philosophy. We give up a ton of yards and let them move up and down the field on us (limiting our offense and wearing down our defense)...
Bend but don't break (until the 4th quarter with the game on the line). Our defense is worn out and we give up the game winning score and scratch our heads some more - wondering why we are always so close but always seem to drop games that we should have won!
SMH

I swear in my alternate universe we beat the Browns twice last year again. In my dream I attended one of the games but missed the go ahead td because I was in the head.

 

I had a dream as well. The Browns will be 2 of our 8 wins this upcoming season.

[billiejean]

5 hours ago, Crusader said:

The question mark ends the sentence. Simple question if you ask me "How....do.....you....guys....determine...who's....a.....BUST....or.....NOT?"

I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt on this one and assume this answer was made in jest. 

[purpledown]

I would stay away from Peppers in the first round.

[RavensDieHard21]

8 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

If the front office isn't already looking at all the dynamics of the drafting process that has progressively declined since the advent of John Harbaugh as HC, they're doing the Ravens organization and its loyal fanbase a disservice.

I know its unpopular to criticize our drafting, but look at our draft picks recently in the first few rounds. Not stellar or at least to he standards set by Ozzie earlier. I really believe it is reflective of selecting players based on their character over their playing talent and also a reflection that players are selected based on their special team prowess and ability over positional talent and ability. I don't know when this transition occurred or this culture took root, but suffice it to say that it has something to do with John Harbaugh's dated philosophy.

Unless Ozzie, Eric, Hortiz and the scouting department take back the draft room and wrest full control, we are going to see the same safe and morose drafting of players. This is a league where risk is rewarded. We need to take risks on character and depend on a strong locker room to bring such players in line. Not avoid them and subsequently great talent. Look at our team now. We've got good players in the draft but we haven't drafted great players and perennial probowlers like we used to before. We need to take on character risks as part of the risk of doing business. Unless we do, we are destined towards long term mediocrity.

I hope Steve Bisciotti pays attention to the dynamics starting this year and make just the front office fully accountable for the draft and the coaches fully accountable for making the most of them. If players keep taking more than a couple of years to 4 yrs to develop, then we've lost the salary cap edge and battle. This is why we struggle against the cap most years. We need to get immediate contributors in every draft. Second year players must all be full contributors to the team. 3rd and 4th year players need to be starters. How many such players do we really have or drafted over the past 7-8 yrs? Not many and that better change.

I respect this fully. I'm an optimist but I am always pragmatic. Many on this page are reluctant to ever criticize the FO or coaching, but the key area where we need to reevaluate is the draft, plus player development. 

We need guys who are purely talented and can contribute, guys who have flashes yet don't seem developed are no longer cutting it. We need more type A players. We need the mean streak back because nobody fears us anymore, especially with SSS retired and Suggs being on the way out. No one looks on their schedule and says oh darn we got the Ravens. We're just another team now. 

[Purple Dawg 96]

  3 hours ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

Harbs went to that school up north and is why I feel he isn't getting OSU Buckeyes or not too many from Ohio except John Simon whom is gone I understand and Juice! The squeelers are doing it though Big Ben LaVeon Bell James Harrison all from Ohio Cameron Hayward Ryan Schazier hope I spelled it correctly OSU Buckeyes! Bellichick got Julian Edelman Kent state close to me and where Juice from! Dallas got Big Zeke smh do I need to keep on going because I can!

Are you talking about John Harbaugh? Because I think he went to Miami Ohio....

My bad but they always talkin about that school up north!

[Purple Dawg 96]

People want to blame F O coaching etc smh the Ravens have respect in drafting players and getting undrafted free agents and now since the QB is killing this team now fingers are getting pointed at everyone but! The squeelers have won Super Bowls with the lowest payroll in the past is where Ozzie learned this method of spotting talent in all players but if the QB is stinking up the place this method will look bad to some! The sun "Rises and Sets" on the QB PERIOD! SMH Brady makes his players look good and check what spots they get drafted! Smh

[RavensDieHard21]

6 hours ago, sami said:

most fans don't want to hear this but since the DB class is so deep it would be better for the Ravens to pick something other than a DB for the first and maybe second rounds.

Deep as far as there are talented players there, that by no means equates to an immediate answer opposite of jimmy. The league is short on premier corners and the SB proved they're highly coveted. 

After round 2 there will be a significant drop because there will be an easy 10 off the board. The difference between landing Sid Jones or Marshon Lattimore v Kevin King or Reshaun Douglas is vast. 

[RavensDieHard21]

10 minutes ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

People want to blame F O coaching etc smh the Ravens have respect in drafting players and getting undrafted free agents and now since the QB is killing this team now fingers are getting pointed at everyone but! The squeelers have won Super Bowls with the lowest payroll in the past is where Ozzie learned this method of spotting talent in all players but if the QB is stinking up the place this method will look bad to some! The sun "Rises and Sets" on the QB PERIOD! SMH Brady makes his players look good and check what spots they get drafted! Smh

Ya it sure helps when you have good QB play, but outside of a half dozen teams, elite QBs like Brady, Brees, Rodgers only come along once in a while. 

After the SB we pretty much became stuck with Flacco. An average C+ QB in the regular season and an A++ QB in post season and critical games. We will never be able to carry the team, but he can be very good if we prop up the talent level of the whole team. Outside of Carr, who else would have been a recent realistic replacement that would improve the position? That's not factoring in dead money either. 

We need to start nailing picks and getting BA kind of players. Guys that will get the job done and bury our opponent when the game is on the line. 

[RavensDieHard21]

I'm surprised that Sidney Jones is over Lattimore, I think experience and injury history factored in there. If jones gains 5-8 pounds and gets a little more physical, he will be a premier cover corner. 

Tim Williams was another surprise, uber talented, but this is implying he will make more strides forward while believing Barnett has peaked?🤔 I think Williams goes day 2, but I pray we don't overlook him, even if it be at 16, or trade back. His get off is insane. He had all the traits of a dangerous speed rusher. 

[OzzieBisciotti]

Oz and Dacosta cant even 'pick' their noses.. Matt Elam, sergio, brookes, brown, and perriman - need i say more? dacosta and oz get too much credit- yes, way back they drafted well but not recently

[bigcatfrank1]

People want to blame F O coaching etc smh the Ravens have respect in drafting players and getting undrafted free agents and now since the QB is killing this team now fingers are getting pointed at everyone but! The squeelers have won Super Bowls with the lowest payroll in the past is where Ozzie learned this method of spotting talent in all players but if the QB is stinking up the place this method will look bad to some! The sun "Rises and Sets" on the QB PERIOD! SMH Brady makes his players look good and check what spots they get drafted! Smh

basically, why play football. 31 teams dont know what they are doing, what a joke. The Falcons gave away the biggest game they ever played in and you are touting your sense of smell, we all know where nose goes.
Its kind of silly that some still want to use excuses for bad play by a team. The Ravens played bad in 2016 end of story.

its 2017 and the Ravens get 7 or so picks and a shot at maybe 3 or 4 FA. Why don't you state what you would do, besides get on your knees and cry Uncle to tommy boy.