[News] Greg Roman Wants To Get Creative With 'Multi-Dimensional' Tight Ends Group

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Baltimore’s new tight ends coach is impressed with the depth and different skillsets from his position group.

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[The Greek]

i see greg and marty butting heads. hope they can get along and come up with an offense that works

[n#7]

"Multi-Dimensional" approach to the TE's. Sounds good but first things first. Let's keep them healthy and avoid other self inflicted "complications" to get them out of the starting gate.

[fusuymada]

Add Juszczyk in that list as well as he is a multidimensional weapon that I feel has been grossly underutilized. The guy is a pro bowl player and is constantly an afterthought in the game plan. This guy could be a Gronkowski, Jordan Reed type talent but we have yet to have an OC who would know a playmaker if he was smacked in the face with one. I put that on the tunnel vision head coach who I personally feel is coaching himself out of a job, When I look at what Josh McDaniels can do with two toothpicks a 6th round qb and a lacrosse player I just am amazed at how we can't develop a cheerleader much less a football player. We have become an average organization

[reed20]

We have talent at that position. Would love to see some more 2TE sets.

[sami]

Add Juszczyk in that list as well as he is a multidimensional weapon that I feel has been grossly underutilized. The guy is a pro bowl player and is constantly an afterthought in the game plan. This guy could be a Gronkowski, Jordan Reed type talent but we have yet to have an OC who would know a playmaker if he was smacked in the face with one. I put that on the tunnel vision head coach who I personally feel is coaching himself out of a job, When I look at what Josh McDaniels can do with two toothpicks a 6th round qb and a lacrosse player I just am amazed at how we can't develop a cheerleader much less a football player. We have become an average organization

it amazes me how someone can put down every player and coach on the team and yet calls himself a fan

[rossihunter2]

18 minutes ago, sami said:

it amazes me how someone can put down every player and coach on the team and yet calls himself a fan

And also somehow still refers to Tom Brady as "a 6th round qb" as if that adds any weight to any argument made about him for at least ten years probably more

[whobilly]

i see greg and marty butting heads. hope they can get along and come up with an offense that works

They better find a way to get along. Another 8-8 season and they'll all be looking for jobs.

[erick2881]

Having boyle and gillmore on first and second down with Williams mixed in looks good to me. pitta and waller on 3rd and redzone is tough to beat. sorry Watson is gone. would of loved to see him play for us last year.

[jhulax35]

Yes !! Id like to see us try get a big time TE in the draft more then WR but got feeling it's going be all D and maybe slot WR in the draft

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Bold prediction: Baltimore Ravens will keep 4 TE this next season. Pitta, Watson, Boyle and Waller.

Pitta and Watson are easy as they provide stability, experience and reliability. Boyle and Waller offer the most and have shown to be the most dependable of the remaining current TE.

Side note: the extra roster spots could be well used for towards secondary depth potentially. I say secondary only because injuries have too often become a determining factor down the stretch of a long season. If they draft young secondary talent, it could mean hanging on to some of the current secondary players for insurance/assurance, at least for a year. TE injuries could always be overcome with slight changes to using an extra Back or Receiver (for those thinking TE depth would be an issue with keeping only 4).

[trevorsteadman]

Add Juszczyk in that list as well as he is a multidimensional weapon that I feel has been grossly underutilized. The guy is a pro bowl player and is constantly an afterthought in the game plan. This guy could be a Gronkowski, Jordan Reed type talent but we have yet to have an OC who would know a playmaker if he was smacked in the face with one. I put that on the tunnel vision head coach who I personally feel is coaching himself out of a job, When I look at what Josh McDaniels can do with two toothpicks a 6th round qb and a lacrosse player I just am amazed at how we can't develop a cheerleader much less a football player. We have become an average organization

While I agree he is underutilized I wouldn't categorize him with the best tight ends in the league. He has had over 100 targets the last two seasons and all he does is makes big yards after contact and gets first downs when really needed. They need to split him out wide more and use him more as a receiver in the slot or something to get match ups they want.

[Bob21043]

Agree with the comment - these guys should be lined up all over the field. Waller is a converted WR (w/speed), Boyle and Gilmore are bruisers, Pitta and Williams have the hands - they all need to stay healthy though. With all (or even most) of these guys healthy, it can be a very dangerous (and productive) group. We need to use them more.

[Crusader]

Ben Watson had a great NFL run but at 36? What possibly could he really contribute over a 16 game season? How about getting these numerous coaches on the team to get these four " rookies" TE playing better.? Sorry I just don't get the logic. Its like saying you all suck and your too stupid to learn so we have to bring in someone better.

[VermontRaven]

12 hours ago, Ravenous_Ravens said:

Bold prediction: Baltimore Ravens will keep 4 TE this next season. Pitta, Watson, Boyle and Waller.

Pitta and Watson are easy as they provide stability, experience and reliability. Boyle and Waller offer the most and have shown to be the most dependable of the remaining current TE.

Side note: the extra roster spots could be well used for towards secondary depth potentially. I say secondary only because injuries have too often become a determining factor down the stretch of a long season. If they draft young secondary talent, it could mean hanging on to some of the current secondary players for insurance/assurance, at least for a year. TE injuries could always be overcome with slight changes to using an extra Back or Receiver (for those thinking TE depth would be an issue with keeping only 4).

Almost agree with you.  I do think we keep 4 TEs, but I think it will be 4 of these 5:  Pitta/Boyle/Waller/Gillmore/Williams.  In my opinion, keeping Pitta AND Watson is too much money for the TE position...I know all of the other guys have questions marks, but they are cheap because they are on their rookie contract.  Not sure which of those 5 I would cut....I would bring all 5 of those guys through camp and let them compete (or injury knocks one out)

[Chuckx999]

Guys that are old, injured or suspended? What a cast of players we have at TE. Time to just cut most of them. Trade up and try for Howard from Ala. A truely gifted TE. Hoving a cast of old, injured and/or suspended TE is a waste of good cap money.
Ozzie's past 5 drafts have just been bad. Out of 55 drafted players over the past 5 years we get 2 maybe 3 guys who know how to play. Just a very poor record.

Maybe it's time Ozzie called it quits.

[TheRavengers]

I think Pitta, Boyle, Gillmore and Waller will be the 4 TEs who stay with the main team by the start of the season, provided all of them stay healthy. Maxx Williams might be headed to the practice squad, unless he outperforms one of the 4 above because he's only played 18 games in 2 seasons and has only one touchdown.

Gotta like the fact that we have a lot of TEs to choose from.

[Drew P]

12 hours ago, Ravenous_Ravens said:

Bold prediction: Baltimore Ravens will keep 4 TE this next season. Pitta, Watson, Boyle and Waller.

Pitta and Watson are easy as they provide stability, experience and reliability. Boyle and Waller offer the most and have shown to be the most dependable of the remaining current TE.

Side note: the extra roster spots could be well used for towards secondary depth potentially. I say secondary only because injuries have too often become a determining factor down the stretch of a long season. If they draft young secondary talent, it could mean hanging on to some of the current secondary players for insurance/assurance, at least for a year. TE injuries could always be overcome with slight changes to using an extra Back or Receiver (for those thinking TE depth would be an issue with keeping only 4).

Its early where i'm at but did I read this correctly that you believe they are parting ways with Gillmore and Maxx to maintain a geezer, a non-blocking TE and 2 pill poppers?

[MileHighMiracle12]

I wonder - if the ravens don't go out and get a receiver in FA, maybe they would move Pitta to the slot as the #3 WR and keep perriman/wallace on the outside. That way they can keep 4 of the other 5 TEs (I'd prefer the 4 on rookie contracts).

[JD08]

No reason to keep 6 TE, I was never too fond of getting Watson in the first place and unfortunately he wasn't able to provide for us, think he should go. I love Pitta, but think it's time to let him go also. We should move forward with Gillmore, Waller, Boyle, and Williams.

[steelcityraven]

No reason to keep 6 TE, I was never too fond of getting Watson in the first place and unfortunately he wasn't able to provide for us, think he should go. I love Pitta, but think it's time to let him go also. We should move forward with Gillmore, Waller, Boyle, and Williams.

Not sure how this is all going to play out.

On one hand... we have Pitta and Watson as the only two really proven TEs. Pitta being Joes favorite target and with already losing SSS and possibly (Both mIke Wallace and Kamar)... losing Pitta would also mean almost an entirely new offense.. something that we were trying to avoid but bringing Marty back)

On the other hand... Pitta comes at an even higher price tag then Watson (who has been more productive) and both come at a much higher tag then the other 4 put together. (Maxx, Gilmore, Boyd and Waller). A very talented young group but a very inexperienced young group who has not yet developed a strong rapport with our QB creating a continuity problem if we:
A. Lose Pitta and Watson
B. Allow this log jam to prevent others from getting enough reps with Joe
C. Start the season with one or two and switch as the year progresses.

So we really are faced with a bit of a decision. (I think Waller has the biggest upside to any of them. Maxx was a very high pick, Gilmore can be a complete TE but I think Boyd could be better as both receiving and blocking)

I would love to say that maybe they are trade bait but all have too much of an unknown to get much for them. (unless you package them).

I see us keeping PItta, packaging Watson in a trade, and trying to stash one of them next year??? but would love to see us move on from Pitta (keep Watson who is better and cheaper) and breaks Joes dependency and then trade Pitta while developing the younger guys.... but that is just me! (unfortunately... I think Maxx would be gone in that scenario)!

[Raven in ATL]

our TE group talent? wide as an ocean, deep as a bucket

[FloridalovesRavens]

No reason to keep 6 TE, I was never too fond of getting Watson in the first place and unfortunately he wasn't able to provide for us, think he should go. I love Pitta, but think it's time to let him go also. We should move forward with Gillmore, Waller, Boyle, and Williams.

No way you get rid of a proven in Pitta. There is still plenty in his tank. I really don't know about Watson but he should be given a chance. The two who were suspended should go. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

[FloridalovesRavens]

Guys that are old, injured or suspended? What a cast of players we have at TE. Time to just cut most of them. Trade up and try for Howard from Ala. A truely gifted TE. Hoving a cast of old, injured and/or suspended TE is a waste of good cap money.
Ozzie's past 5 drafts have just been bad. Out of 55 drafted players over the past 5 years we get 2 maybe 3 guys who know how to play. Just a very poor record.

Maybe it's time Ozzie called it quits.

Have you lost your mind. Get rid of Ozzie? Get rid of most of our TEs? Better check other teams successes over the years in the draft. I can confidently say we have done just fine.

[Purple Dawg 96]

Need more plays that get the TEs down field to create the mismatch with smaller players in the secondary! Not plays 2, 3, 4 yds off the line of scrimmage between LBers and the secondary! This is not rocket science!

[omar586]

its possible we keep 5 TEs, if we lose juice in FA.

[Militant X 1]

Blah, blah, blah! We hear the same old stuff every single offseason about being "creative" in the offense but to no avail at the beginning and throughout the season. Don't believe the hype! Wait to see!