[News] Eisenberg: Ravens Need Breshad Perriman To Become A Playmaker, And He's Capable Of It

[fluffy201]

I don't know why but our drafting has on the decline overall since Harbs became HC. The problem I have is the only variable in the entire process of front office, scouts and coaches has beenJohn Harbaugh. Stay out of the draft process John. Let Ozzie, Eric and Hortiz give you and the coaches the players. You stick to coaching and we'll all be good.

I agree, it should be ran like the Federal Reserve and the US Govt..........My best analogy.

[sami]

the RAVEN'S need to realize,PERRIMAN'S a BUST! he makes 1 catch a game and hit's the showers.PIERRE GARCON would be would be the next DERICK MASON or ANQUAN BOLDIN,a tough,gritty,blocking,possesion receiver.

lets not forget, Perriman has yet to have a training camp. THATS where you really learn a lot about how to be a player. Lets give him at least a chance to get thru a training camp before we label him a bust.

[erick2881]

I think Perriman will have a huge year coming up. I don't see him as a bust. He made some outstanding catches this year. Minus a few of those drops that made me drop the f bomb on him.. needs to work on this routes, everyone knows where you are going.

[jhulax35]

  3 hours ago, jhulax35 said:

Or do you make your system fit to your players abilities

Pretty sure we do that. How do you think you manage to have a defense like we did with obvious talent deficiencies at multiple levels?

Its like complaining about our secondary playing too much zone. Show me the corners on this team (outside of Jimmy) that are able to consistently win in man coverage schemes? 

I was talking more offense but hey thanks for letting me know we are defensive team

[The Mom Gene]

  Just now, dirtybird66 said:

the RAVEN'S need to realize,PERRIMAN'S a BUST! he makes 1 catch a game and hit's the showers.PIERRE GARCON would be would be the next DERICK MASON or ANQUAN BOLDIN,a tough,gritty,blocking,possesion receiver.

lets not forget, Perriman has yet to have a training camp. THATS where you really learn a lot about how to be a player. Lets give him at least a chance to get thru a training camp before we label him a bust.

Absolutely... it's craziness.

[#Nevermore]

I think he will have a good year, but it's up to him. During the offseason, I think more young guys need to hang out with veterans and trainers to get better at their craft.

I read a story on ESPN.com stating that Matt Ryan worked at the 3DQB training facility in Los Angeles to improve. The same guys worked with Brady, Brees and Palmer.

This site did a story about Jerigan working with Darnell Dockett during his second year and Jerigan throwing up because the workouts were so intense.

I think it would be great if he trained with Fitzgerald, Green or Marshall (since they are both from the same school) to learn how to run routes and the subtleties of the position. A guy with his speed having issues with separation definitely comes from poor route running. He has to want to be better and please stay healthy.

[sizzlingdoom]

You can start by throwing him more than two balls a game but then again Pitta would have to be on the bench.

LOL

[sizzlingdoom]

We need to feed the kid and we need our OC to get creative in getting the ball in his hands. Use more screens. Use more bunch formations. Get creative with route running to get him in space.

His hands look lack luster at times, but by no means are they bad. It's concentration, but the only way to improve that is during camp and game experience. 

Bottom line, his speed and build is too valuable not to be utilized. I think he explodes onto the scene this year. 

I agree with all of that. If he can work on his route running and be a little more physical, the sky is the limit. I think he'll get to work this offseason

[sizzlingdoom]

I don't know why but our drafting has on the decline overall since Harbs became HC. The problem I have is the only variable in the entire process of front office, scouts and coaches has beenJohn Harbaugh. Stay out of the draft process John. Let Ozzie, Eric and Hortiz give you and the coaches the players. You stick to coaching and we'll all be good.

Harbaugh is bringing us down in every way possible. Except for being a "players coach". Let's trade him for Jim. Jim could bring some fire outta Joe.

[Halshayeji]

Perriman will ball this year if he can stay healthy.

now we can point fingers at this or that but ultimately, Joe needs to make him great. Joe needs to build chemistry and teach him where he needs to be and when. 

[sizzlingdoom]

Perriman will ball this year if he can stay healthy.

now we can point fingers at this or that but ultimately, Joe needs to make him great. Joe needs to build chemistry and teach him where he needs to be and when. 

Agreed. If both of those players want to be great, our team can be "elite". If not, well, yeah.

[rmcjacket23]

13 hours ago, jhulax35 said:

I was talking more offense but hey thanks for letting me know we are defensive team

Offense isn't any different. Same concept.

[Chuckx999]

We all know Ozzie can NOT draft WR's. As for "3 and out Flacco" he has become one of the GREATEST "over paid QB" in NFL history. He needs to go. How many second stringers could we sign that would also get us to 8 and 8??
With the cap money we would save we could start to rebuild a OLD and SLOW team.

[Crusader]

Perriman a play maker? Reminds me of this." I just want to know who called him a piccolo player?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flqoVkMBSQI

[Drinkmore Beer]

You can start by throwing him more than two balls a game but then again Pitta would have to be on the bench.

Hah! You are soooo right!

[JD08]

I believe Perriman will be the player that we have been expecting, he showed flashes of his potential in some games, with more experience he will show.

[Adreme]

21 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

I don't know why but our drafting has on the decline overall since Harbs became HC. The problem I have is the only variable in the entire process of front office, scouts and coaches has beenJohn Harbaugh. Stay out of the draft process John. Let Ozzie, Eric and Hortiz give you and the coaches the players. You stick to coaching and we'll all be good.

Alternatively it could be that since John came aboard the Ravens have been drafting much lower every year since they have been winning so on average the drafts are going to be worse.  The very first draft the Ravens get a high pick in is already one of the best in franchise history.

[jhulax35]

  19 hours ago, jhulax35 said:

I was talking more offense but hey thanks for letting me know we are defensive team

Offense isn't any different. Same concept.

Please we didn't play to our O abilities. I didn't see us air it out too much down field this year cause pretty sure Joe has big arm too do that and perriman and def did not see a lot holes open up for our RB this year.

[Swift 1]

21 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

I don't know why but our drafting has on the decline overall since Harbs became HC. The problem I have is the only variable in the entire process of front office, scouts and coaches has beenJohn Harbaugh. Stay out of the draft process John. Let Ozzie, Eric and Hortiz give you and the coaches the players. You stick to coaching and we'll all be good.

It couldn't be because we were in playoffs five of six years and drafted late? 

[Swift 1]

39 minutes ago, Adreme said:

Alternatively it could be that since John came aboard the Ravens have been drafting much lower every year since they have been winning so on average the drafts are going to be worse.  The very first draft the Ravens get a high pick in is already one of the best in franchise history.

I should of read your reply before i replied. 

[rmcjacket23]

26 minutes ago, jhulax35 said:

Please we didn't play to our O abilities. I didn't see us air it out too much down field this year cause pretty sure Joe has big arm too do that and perriman and def did not see a lot holes open up for our RB this year.

See offensive line. Do you think they blocked well enough throughout the season to take deep shots down the field?

Do you think they blocked enough in the run game to allow our RBs to perform better?

What you are describing is not a failure to maximize our personnel's skills. Its the inability to do so, via other players in the unit not performing their skills at a high enough level to do so.

[rmcjacket23]

6 hours ago, Chuckx999 said:

We all know Ozzie can NOT draft WR's. As for "3 and out Flacco" he has become one of the GREATEST "over paid QB" in NFL history. He needs to go. How many second stringers could we sign that would also get us to 8 and 8??
With the cap money we would save we could start to rebuild a OLD and SLOW team.

Probably many.

They just wouldn't get us to the SB, which Joe did.

So there's that difference.

[Purple Dawg 96]

Perriman can be a playmaker like Julio Jones but ball location is very important and Joe under throws his WRs habitually! The routes gotta get better because routes, double moves, post patterns, stop and go's and pump fakes get WRS open not only the player! We had a good team this season but our QB "CHOKED"! This is the AFC NORTH and I went up against the squeelers two times a year since I was born and the QB will get banged around so blaming the O line and throwing them under the bus isn't gonna cut it so stop! Big Ben beat us with a broken nose and Joe Flacco medical report is no where near that of Big Ben so whom will be to blame after Ozzie and Co. get O Linemen and WRs! Smh "The Ravens have the weaponry it's the QB that is suspect" and this is the word on our squad around the league!

[purpledown]

I would not hold my breath on Perriman. The Ravens look to add another receiver via the draft or free agency.

[ellicottraven]

8 hours ago, Adreme said:

Alternatively it could be that since John came aboard the Ravens have been drafting much lower every year since they have been winning so on average the drafts are going to be worse.  The very first draft the Ravens get a high pick in is already one of the best in franchise history.

Ray Lewis was selected in the 20s as was Ed Reed. And John has had pretty bad years lately and has had 5 out of 9 winning seasons. So his picks haven't been in the high teens and low 20s and just so you know Cincy and Pittsburgh have been drafting pretty late as well as have the diabolical Patriots. Sure, we can rationalize anything we set our minds to, but the reality is Billick had a pretty comparable record to John and the drafting wasn't as bad as it is now.

[Adreme]

8 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Ray Lewis was selected in the 20s as was Ed Reed. And John has had pretty bad years lately and has had 5 out of 9 winning seasons. So his picks haven't been in the high teens and low 20s and just so you know Cincy and Pittsburgh have been drafting pretty late as well as have the diabolical Patriots. Sure, we can rationalize anything we set our minds to, but the reality is Billick had a pretty comparable record to John and the drafting wasn't as bad as it is now.

There is already a thread in the main forum where someone listed every 2nd round pick in Ravens history and its pretty obvious if you look at it that the picks have gotten better over the years compared to where they were.  Pulling off getting a couple Hall of Famers with 1st round picks is nice but you cant pull that off consistently and if you are those MLB and S are the positions that you can pull it off late in the 1st round because those positions are far less sought after then the positions the Ravens picked.  

 

However it seems silly to say the Ravens are drafting bad when every year there is a free agent or two considered one of the top in the market who will price himself out.  This year its Wagner and Williams and so I find it silly to say they are bad at drafting when they have two of the top 32 players in the draft.

[jhulax35]

  16 hours ago, jhulax35 said:

Please we didn't play to our O abilities. I didn't see us air it out too much down field this year cause pretty sure Joe has big arm too do that and perriman and def did not see a lot holes open up for our RB this year.

See offensive line. Do you think they blocked well enough throughout the season to take deep shots down the field?

Do you think they blocked enough in the run game to allow our RBs to perform better?

What you are describing is not a failure to maximize our personnel's skills. Its the inability to do so, via other players in the unit not performing their skills at a high enough level to do so.

O they didn't perform which didn't work to other people on O abilities. who brought these players in here thinking they could perform at high level?
Who made the schemes for the O thinking they would be able to perform at that high level?

[rmcjacket23]

1 hour ago, jhulax35 said:

O they didn't perform which didn't work to other people on O abilities. who brought these players in here thinking they could perform at high level?
Who made the schemes for the O thinking they would be able to perform at that high level?

1. Obviously the FO signs and drafts the players. Its also a case of some players who have played well in the past simply not performing as well. Can't find a single player in the league who performs at the exact same level year over year. 

2. That would be the coaches, who schemed the offense around what they saw players actually doing vs what they were capable of doing. If we schemed based on capability instead of actual on-field production, we'd never win a game.

[jhulax35]

  2 hours ago, jhulax35 said:

O they didn't perform which didn't work to other people on O abilities. who brought these players in here thinking they could perform at high level?
Who made the schemes for the O thinking they would be able to perform at that high level?

1. Obviously the FO signs and drafts the players. Its also a case of some players who have played well in the past simply not performing as well. Can't find a single player in the league who performs at the exact same level year over year. 

2. That would be the coaches, who schemed the offense around what they saw players actually doing vs what they were capable of doing. If we schemed based on capability instead of actual on-field production, we'd never win a game.

I'm going tell you the pats figure out each year to work to the players skill set and abilities. Each player that is a back up comes in fills the hole or they switch things up for the players to mesh well. They do hell of job coaching their wr to sit in the zones or break off their routes so Tom knows where the wr is going be for timing pass if need be.

[jlahman]

Ravens need to look at this kid!http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2017/02/penn_states_chris_godwin_preps.html#incart_river_home