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Mock Draft 2.0

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Round, Pick: Name, Position, School (Height Weight)

TRADE: Trade back our 2nd for a late second and a 4th.

1, 16: Jabrill Peppers, SS/OLB/ILB/SCB/KR/PR, Michigan, (6-0 205lbs)

-An absolute freak athlete, can play a plethora of positions, and can play all of them at the highest level. His return skills are just the icing on the cake for this true swiss army knife player. Dean Pees can get very creative with Peppers. His ball skills are in question leading him to fall here.

2, Trade: JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, USC, (6-2 220lbs)

-A true possession receiver with strong hands. Will be a great compliment to Wallace and Perriman on the outside. His lack of separation ability and lack of top end speed will turn a lot of teams off.

3, 16: Nico Siragusa, OG, San Diego State, (6-4 326lbs)

-Has no relation to Tony Siragusa. But an absolute force in the run game. Very strong and quick on his feet. His lateral movement is a concern and his versatility is low. But hey, if he can play one position well, who cares?

3, Comp: Rasul Douglas, CB, West Virginia, (6-2 204lbs)

-Rare size, and ball skills. Has one of the highest ceilings of any CB in the draft. My personal favorite CB in this years draft. His lack of straight line speed will concern teams, because of the fact that he is a primarily press corner.

4, 16: D’Onta Foreman, RB, Texas, (6-1 249lbs)

-Has unbelievable quickness, and agility for a back of his size. But does not have the speed that most teams in todays NFL look for. He also does not run with the pad level of a RB of his size.

4, Trade: Eddie Jackson, FS, Alabama, (6-0 194lbs)

-Was an absolute stud in 2015. But broke his leg in 2016. He is going to need time to recover and get healthy. But can do it all as a player.

5, 16: Devonte Fields, OLB, Louisville, (6-3 242lbs)

-Has the athleticism and production that teams love. But off the field concerns will plummet Fields draft stock. Mostly related to domestic violence.

6, 16: Marquel Lee, ILB, Wake Forest, (6-3 230lbs)

-Could be a good backup, decent speed, and overall athleticism. Struggles in coverage and may fit better in a 4-3 defense.

7, 16: Jon Toth, OC/OG, Kentucky, (6-5 308lbs)

-A stud in the run game, with the size and strength to make a big difference, and compete for a starting job after John get his hands on him. Lacks speed and athletic ability to get downfield.

 

Cut:

Kyle Arrington

Elvis Dumervil

Kendrick Lewis

Ben Watson

Shareece Wright

Lardarius Webb

 

Re-Sign:

Brandon Williams

Kyle Juszczyk

Ricky Wagner

Lawrence Guy

 

Sign:

Pierre Garcon, WR

Kevin Minter, ILB

Erik Walden, OLB

 

Projected Depth Chart:

QB: Flacco/Vaughan

RB: Dixon/Foreman/Allen

FB: Juszczyk

WR: Wallace/Smith-Schuster/Camponaro

WR: Perriman/Garcon/Moore

TE: Pitta/Williams/Gillmore/Waller

LT: Stanley/Hurst

LG: Yanda/Urschel

OC: Zuttah/Toth

RG: Siragusa/Lewis

RT: Wagner/Hurst

 

DE: Jernigan/Henry/Davis

DT: Williams/Pierce

DE: Guy/Urban/Kaufusi

OLB: Suggs/Judon/McClellan

ILB: Mosley/Correa

ILB: Minter/Lee

OLB: Walden/Smith/Fields

CB: Smith/Powers/Canady

CB: Young/Douglas/Lewis-Harris

FS: Weddle/Jackson

SS: Peppers/Elam

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5 minutes ago, Prino61 said:

If we land D’Onta Foreman in the 4th round that would be a steal

To be honest... I think Foreman goes in the 2nd if not higher. I've seen some mocks with him easily in the 2nd round. If anything I think Juju falls to the 3rd or 4th and Foreman goes higher. I really haven't been impressed with Juju's film and that is coming from someone who loved Keenan Allen's tape and Allen fell to the 3rd round. I don't mind the Peppers pick though in the first.

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Peppers is a great player, but besides that, scrap a lot of those picks lol JuJu would be a tough call because there would still be so much defensive talent available 

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No way Foreman falls to the second and Peppers is billed as this play maker with one interception in his career and it came at the end of this year.

He isn't fluid enough to cover the slot and his real value is in the box where he lacks great size. 

Really not good value at 16.

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Not sure I agree with all the decisions, but I do love the presentation of this mock offseason. 

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Honestly not very good,, I'll give you credit for the trade at least being realistic though, some really overvalue what we'd get in return and this seems like a trade that'd actually happen.

If we're staying put at 16 then I wouldn't be happy with Peppers, he is fine in coverage but he's fine for a safety, he needs to be a box SS where his instincts in sniffing out run plays and screens can be put to use. If we move back in the first then I'd consider him as he seems like the sort of pick that Ozzie would make but at 16 there will undoubtedly be better players there.

I've warmed up to JuJu since the end of the season, if he's there then I'd be happy with the pick, especially if Aiken is gone, he can fill the same role. But as someone stated earlier, there will likely be a lot of defensive talent still on the board there.

Not a fan of Siragusa, he's a run blocker and not much else, effectively, at least in year one, you will be just plugging Ducasse back at RG. Why would we do that rather than moving Yanda back to his spot at RG and plugging Lewis who's a proven guard back in at LG. That seems like the most logical move to me and taking an interior lineman a little later. 

I like Rasul Douglas, biggest question is whether he'll be available at that point and personally I don't think so. He's a prototype press corner, great size and production. I don't expect him to be available past maybe mid 3rd if you want to push it, but early 3rd is my realistic latest he'll be available.

Foreman will be long gone by then.

Eddie Jackson should be long gone by then. A broken leg isn't an injury that will affect his stock immensely, it's not the same as a tear or some other injuries. Talent wise he's still one of the best safeties, and one of only a couple true free safeties in the entire draft.

The entire reason Fields got kicked off TCU was because he's threatened his ex-GF with a gun and allegedly punched her in the face, call me crazy but we're keeping our distance.

Honestly not a fan of Lee, but it's a realistic pick.

Toth should be long gone by then. He should be gone by 5 at the latest, he's unanimously one of the top centers in the class.

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Too many players signed without the money to sign them. Why would you relegate Alex Lewis a budding star to a back up role? Very unrealistic but thanks for all the work you put into it though.

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jabrill peppers is not one of the best 16 players in the draft in my opinion so the only way we land him is if we trade back maybe 10 picks or so

i like juju later in the 2nd but it would be hard to pass on some of the guys who will be there near 48 or even at the same spot you got juju at

donta foreman is nice but he's exactly the type of rb we have already - decosta and harbs have both suggested that the type of rbs they are looking at are people who can take it to the house with the speed to burn teams - i would like foreman but i dont think he's value and i think his stock will be lower on our big board because of the logjam of good players at the position already

devonte fields will not be a raven - DV issues instantly take him off the board rather than a potential late round steal - he can go to some other team with his DV history but he's not playing here

i like the jon toth pick as a potential developmental guy there in the 7th though

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I'm in agreement with the other comments. There's changes I would make. I do consider myself a little bit of a Toth expert and he will be gone by 5 because that's where I have the Ravens picking him, and believe me that's a steal (talk about serious value). He's more than developmental. You can plug him in on day one and realistically he's solid, makes the calls, and will never lose the game for you. Optimistically he's phenomenal and rejuvenates the run game. If you want more analysis I can post it to the O line forum

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13 hours ago, Prino61 said:

If we land D’Onta Foreman in the 4th round that would be a steal

I'll call it right now. He's going to be the third RB of the board. Top 40 pick.

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7 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

jabrill peppers is not one of the best 16 players in the draft in my opinion so the only way we land him is if we trade back maybe 10 picks or so

i like juju later in the 2nd but it would be hard to pass on some of the guys who will be there near 48 or even at the same spot you got juju at

donta foreman is nice but he's exactly the type of rb we have already - decosta and harbs have both suggested that the type of rbs they are looking at are people who can take it to the house with the speed to burn teams - i would like foreman but i dont think he's value and i think his stock will be lower on our big board because of the logjam of good players at the position already

devonte fields will not be a raven - DV issues instantly take him off the board rather than a potential late round steal - he can go to some other team with his DV history but he's not playing here

i like the jon toth pick as a potential developmental guy there in the 7th though

We don't have anyone like Foreman at all. The guy played at 250 lbs last season. My NFL comparison for Foreman is a healthy Jonathan Stewart. Just an unbelievable rare mix of power and acceleration.

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1 hour ago, ravensnick said:

I'll call it right now. He's going to be the third RB of the board. Top 40 pick.

Spoken like a true Longhorn

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I would be disappointed if we picked Peppers. He doesn't have the play strength to play OLB or even ILB for that matter. He's not enough of a play-maker at FS so his fit might only be as a SS and do we need to take one early at the moment? No. I honestly think Peppers could legit fall out the 1st round, guys like him make to tough on themselves to develop as players when they try to play so many positions, it doesn't allow them to refine and get better at one spot. 

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Here is my problem what has always been the WRs problems can't separate so why get a WR who can't separate that's a bad pick. I like Kupp or Jones way better. Also with your depth chart we have killed Ozzie for not drafting starters but everyone is a backup but Siragusa and Peppers. Also Peppers I am not sold on and I don't think  Siragusa is better than Lewis. I'm ok with Douglas, Jackson and Toth but not thrilled with the rest Fields is ok but very unimpressed.

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12 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I would be disappointed if we picked Peppers. He doesn't have the play strength to play OLB or even ILB for that matter. He's not enough of a play-maker at FS so his fit might only be as a SS and do we need to take one early at the moment? No. I honestly think Peppers could legit fall out the 1st round, guys like him make to tough on themselves to develop as players when they try to play so many positions, it doesn't allow them to refine and get better at one spot. 

The argument against Peppers is too many positions if you bashed KC for playing ILB and OLB then Peppers will be the same deal. I would not take him period he has terrible hands and will not make it as a FS so I feel he is very limited in what he can do.

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10 hours ago, Wildabeast88 said:

The argument against Peppers is too many positions if you bashed KC for playing ILB and OLB then Peppers will be the same deal. I would not take him period he has terrible hands and will not make it as a FS so I feel he is very limited in what he can do.

Bringing up KC exactly proves a point, he's struggled to maintain at one spot and that has to be influenced from shifting from ILB to OLB. Having to get the entire play-book down on both positions and develop as well puts a strain on a player. I highly doubt Peppers knows all the coverage/formations for all the positions he's played, and even if he did (Which would be very impressive), he didn't refine himself to the point to where he can be equally effective in all those positions. Besides that point, if Peppers weight is indeed 205, then his playing position is not as diverse as advertised because he's not seeing snaps at OLB/ILB in a 3-4 base in the NFL at that weight. 

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