[News] Late For Work 2/9: Ed Reed Opens Up About Coaching For Ravens

[BR News]

In his second mock draft, Todd McShay has the Ravens taking a defensive 'enigma.' Offseason prediction: Ravens will draft a CB in the first round. Can Breshad Perriman become a No. 1 receiver? What’s the tipping point for a contract with Brandon Williams?

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[MadStorkSociety]

“If letting go of the talented nose tackle means the Ravens can bring in a high-impact wide receiver or cornerback, it’s worth it in the long run."

Logic challenge: Change that "or" to an "and" to become a true statement.

[Black&purple#55]

Harbaugh Will never bring Ed Reed

[jravens1313]

Without Justin Tucker the Ravens would have lost 3-4 more games this year. He is way more valuable than the majority of our team. Only if we had a coach and and QB that understood his value by taking the points when we are in his range instead of going for it on 4th Down, or turning the ball over.

IMO Perriman can become a number 1 WR, but needs to work on making the tough catches in traffic. If you look at his numbers in 2016 he had 66 targets for 499 yards and 3 TDs. Most number 1's are targeted ~140 times. If Perriman had the same production on 140 targets he would have had 1048 yards and 6 TDs. 
 

Edited February 9 by jravens1313

[MileHighMiracle12]

Without Justin Tucker the Ravens would have lost 3-4 more games this year. He is way more valuable than the majority of our team. Only if we had a coach and and QB that understood his value by taking the points when we are in his range instead of going for it on 4th Down, or turning the ball over.

IMO Perriman can become a number 1 WR, but needs to work on making the tough catches in traffic. If you look at his numbers in 2016 he had 66 targets for 499 yards and 3 TDs. Most number 1's are targeted ~140 times. If Perriman had the same production on 140 targets he would have had 1048 yards and 6 TDs. He is going to be a good WR imo.

I feel like having SSS and Mike W. on the team last year really cut into Perriman's playing time, which I think was fine for essentially a rookie receiver getting up to speed on the game. What I could see as being an issue this year is that he has some experience under his belt and needs to be playing as a #1 or #2, not a #3... but if we bring in another vet and keep Wallace, we might be tempted to go with the proven receivers leaving Perriman at #3 and stifling his progression.

[omar586]

1- Bwill will get paid by another team, he deserves it. we have depth at the DL to compensate for bwill loss.
2- our priority should be resigning wagner, we need consistency at OL position, if we sign wagner i think it will make us flexible in Draft, we can go all D in the top 4 picks.
3- we need to use 3 wr set more to spread the D out and utilize our young WRs.

[RaRaRavens]

Depressing part is that Luke Jones' point when he says: "That’s why a deal may not make sense for either side in the end. Even when they both want it.” actually makes A LOT of sense. We have just TOO.MANY.NEEDS literally all over the roster.

Williams is one of my favorite players and it breaks my heart that I actually have to hope that we won't resign him because we have other gaping holes to fill. And the fact that we are in the position where we have so vast list of needs and thus can't probably resign Williams is the direct failure of the FO over the several past seasons. P A T H E T I C

[Azzi22]

Depressing part is that Luke Jones' point when he says: "That’s why a deal may not make sense for either side in the end. Even when they both want it.” actually makes A LOT of sense. We have just TOO.MANY.NEEDS literally all over the roster.

Williams is one of my favorite players and it breaks my heart that I actually have to hope that we won't resign him because we have other gaping holes to fill. And the fact that we are in the position where we have so vast list of needs and thus can't probably resign Williams is the direct failure of the FO over the several past seasons. P A T H E T I C

ive been saying the same for years... I don't get how the NFL and media thinks OZZ is the DRAFT GOD.. hes horrible.. our team is PATHETIC because of it hes got more misses than hits in the last 5 drafts.. say what you wanna say but the problem is OBVIOUS..

[Crusader]

Harbaugh Will never bring Ed Reed

You got that right. It would be a cold day in hell before that happens.

[steelcityraven]

“If letting go of the talented nose tackle means the Ravens can bring in a high-impact wide receiver or cornerback, it’s worth it in the long run."

Logic challenge: Change that "or" to an "and" to become a true statement.

MadStork....

As much as I do not want to see BW go.... I think we can asorb that loss much easier (with Pierce, Timmy, Carl Davis, Willie Henry, Kafusi, GUy and more on our DL)

We do have a lot of holes to fill and a CB is a necessity.
If we lost BW and brought in a starting CB... that is a win for this defense.... but if we lose BW and bring in another Jerrod Powers or Sharece Wright.... then that is a big loss. A # 3 or #4 CB is not what we need.

So...the gamble is getting some CB who is equally as much as a difference maker as BW would be on the DL.

[steelcityraven]

I am not convinced that we are going CB in round 1. If both Dalvin Cook and Mike Williams are available (and there is a good chance they are)... I could see us going that direction ... which means... I expect us to go after a CB in FA in an effort to allow us the freedom to stick to our draft philosophy of "Best Player Available"!

[ellicottraven]

Why can't we get that Harbaugh and Reed are like oil and water. Immiscible people with the same end goal. Reed is a free flower in thought and talk, Harbaugh on the other hand is a guy who says what he thinks we need to hear or not. He is guarded, will lie in a heartbeat to serve team needs, etc. Reed wears truth and his heart on his sleeves and is prone to emotions. Most of all, the two can't get along. While Reed is the epitome of a Baltimore Raven, John is on his last leg here if he can't get us to the playoffs. Next year, if we fail to make the playoff again John will be fired and the new coach may ask Reed to come coach for him.

[The Greek]

if perriman, maxx williams and correia do not pan out than bisciotti really needs to think about giving decosta the lead and give ozzie another role in the organization. ozzie has been a strong gm for a long long time but the drafts since 2009 have been weak. that is 8 years. everyone makes bad picks but 8 years aside from a couple of solid picks has really hurt the roster especially when you cannot retain players on the rise because of poor cap management. jmo

[J.O.14]

I love Brandon Williams. He was a gem when we drafted him. But as the article stated, if letting him go means we can sign a WR or/and a CB, then its a no brainer. We have guys that can help us weather the storm of his loss. Would we suffer a little bit? Yes. But we have guys that can help stuff the run. We NEED playmakers and another CB that isn't a liability. We could return to the playoffs and more with another weapon and a CB.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

This article IMHO is not worth the read. Pure and simple the Ravens are much closer than they are far off. To put things into proper perspective, a big reason why the ravens run defense is as stout as it is, is because of BW. You take him out of the equation and the run defense suffers period. Remember he picked up and filled the void left by Ngata and did not miss a beat. This will only be more evident now that Z Orr unfortunately had to retire, who happened to be a tackling machine last season.

Complain for more weapons. I hear it every year but what everyone is ignoring is the fact they have WR's already that they need to utilize better. So many in fact, most of them do not see significatn snaps. If they cannot get enough out of their WR's, then it is time to address the scouting of WR, the development of WR and the coaching of WR even down to the offensive strategies being implemented. When you have a history of drafting well on defense and a history of not drafting well specifically at WR, you gotta be honest and fix things in house instead of passing the blame along to the players all the time. Always going to go get a vet WR suggest they are already aware of this fact and continue to ignore it. Fix this issue in house and stop with "we need more help at WR".

There is also no need to go sign a FA CB. Draft and develop and save the salary cap space for the players already on this team that must be retained. Reaching for a FA to fix a situation is always a risk which eats up more cap space than drafting well and developing. Only real reason to get a FA is if you have that much spare cap space or if a drafted player cannot be expected to contribute in a meaningful manner.

An ostrich must have written this article, with their head buried in the sand. Reality is much different when viewed from above ground.

[ByTheBay]

1 hour ago, Azzi22 said:

ive been saying the same for years... I don't get how the NFL and media thinks OZZ is the DRAFT GOD.. hes horrible.. our team is PATHETIC because of it hes got more misses than hits in the last 5 drafts.. say what you wanna say but the problem is OBVIOUS..

Do you think that everyone else is drafting probowlers every round of every draft? Every team has more misses than hits and that includes the early rounds. Thats how it works.  There are easily 15-20 other teams that would kill to have Ozzie as their GM 😀

[roamingcharges]

I keep saying it that the Ravens' problem isn't as much drafting as it is Player Development. For instance we drafted Chris Moore in the 4th round. I watched him during the season and whether it was as a returner or as a wide out he never appeared out of his depth. If Green Bay, New Orleans, Pittsburgh, San Diego... drafted the guy he'd be a star in the making at this point, but we're already talking of bringing in someone else's remnant or another unknown from the draft.

Michael Campanaro, Aaron Mellette, Tommy Streeter, Tandon Doss, David Reed, Justin Harper, Marcus Smith, Yamon Figurs, Demetrius Williams... you can't tell me none of these guys would have panned out without adequate development and forcing them onto the playing field and actually calling plays where the ball actually goes to them (yes I used actually 100 times for emphasis).

I purposely left out Torrey Smith-- the one guy who was successful. Maybe he was only successful because he was a second round pick and they couldn't afford to bury him in the depth chart or on the practice squad or IR. Remember that doozie he had at the beginning of his career before taking off in STL; another receiver from this bunch has a bad start to his career and poof; there goes your career. Do your own science project instead of stealing the other kid's homework and trying to present it as yours!

[Azzi22]

  1 hour ago, Azzi22 said:

ive been saying the same for years... I don't get how the NFL and media thinks OZZ is the DRAFT GOD.. hes horrible.. our team is PATHETIC because of it hes got more misses than hits in the last 5 drafts.. say what you wanna say but the problem is OBVIOUS..

Do you think that everyone else is drafting probowlers every round of every draft? Every team has more misses than hits and that includes the early rounds. Thats how it works.  There are easily 15-20 other teams that would kill to have Ozzie as their GM 😀

TAKE HIM.. PLEASE

[steelcityraven]

WE have some guys who need to take the next step if we are going to get to where we want to be. Here are a dozen:

1. Alex Lewis.... I have a feeling we are going to let Wags walk which means Lewis will need to step up and be the man at RT

2. Breshad Perriman... We need him to become our # 1 WR (if not this year...definitely next)

3. Kenneth Dixon... he showed signs that he can be a workhorse type of back for us but we need him to take that next step

4. Darren Waller... the kid is a mismatch at TE and a freak athlete. Now that he has gotten his feet wet... we need him to take the next step and develop into a vertical TE

5. Maxx WIlliams... Man he has so much ability but appears to have the problem that a lot of gifted players due... they never had to develop the work ethic. Hopefully maxx makes the lead this year. (if not Nick Boyle will be kept and Maxx may be gone)

6. Mat Judon... he showed flashes of ability but with us likely to lose Elvis... Judon could be the man on a stacked defensive- if he can take the next step.

7. Tavon Young.... tavon showed sings of being able to be a quality starter in this league. Now he will have to string this work together on a consistent basis. I like his chances

8. Bronson Kafusi... if Kafusi can live up to potential.... he can greatly help our desperate search to improve the pass rush. And with his massive size he can help stop the run and reduce the impact that losing BW may cause

9. Kamalei Coreia... KC has a chance to step into a starting spot and fulfill his draft status... It was a big blow to lose Zach Orr but KC could really fill a need (as he was drafted to do)

10. Carl Davis... Davis showed a ton of potential in his rookie year but seemed to hit that rookie wall and never recovered. We need CD to take that next step (especially if we lose big Brandon). Davis can become a key piece in our front seven.

11. Chris Moore... We could very easily lose SSS, Mike Wallace and Kamar Aiken this off season. We will bring somebody in to help out at WR regardless if that means we retain Wallace, or bring in a FA or draft a WR or a combination of those possibilities. That should still mean that CMoore will have a great opportunity to earn himself some recognition and opportunity. He has the athletic ability but will need to put a lot of work in to bring his skillset up to match his athletic potential.

12. Maurice Canaday... CB out of VA, who is on our practice squad. Canaday showed a lot of potential in camp and our hopes that Sharece Wright and Jerrod Powers would live up to the hype left Canaday relegated to the PS. Canaday looked better then both of them (and could not have been much worse). I think he surprised people and takes the next step+ Looking forward to seeing him next season.

Finally (Bonus) if Dean Pees don't take the next step and learn to close teams out... it will not matter what these young guys do. Pees needs to get better or we will miss the playoffs again... losing a bunch of close games in the 4th quarter and frustrating Raven nation to no end. (and costing harbs his job).
Pees got to get it together quickly!

[Chuckx999]

Stop talking about guys that have been here for years and "may" have some potential? After 2-3 years it's just time to let them go. We need to draft SMART.

Hire Ed Reed, maybe he could not only teach but give our "D" some attitude like what he and Ray Lewis once did. Just hire the guy, with our "D" what do we have to lose!!!

[mendii]

Zach Orr working to fight opioid addiction is an awesome cause for a former NFL player. He is making an impact in his Baltimore community and the NFL community at large. People need to make a bigger deal about the drug addiction so many ex-NFL players face, and that doesn't even get into the US population at large. My hat is off to you Zach, you're really a great man.

[rmcjacket23]

Stop talking about guys that have been here for years and "may" have some potential? After 2-3 years it's just time to let them go. We need to draft SMART.

Hire Ed Reed, maybe he could not only teach but give our "D" some attitude like what he and Ray Lewis once did. Just hire the guy, with our "D" what do we have to lose!!!

lol, if you threw away all the players that weren't very good after their first 2-3 years, you'd be throwing away a lot of good players.

Very poor management strategy.

[rmcjacket23]

Why do fans think that great players make great coaches again?

[FloridalovesRavens]

Why can't we get that Harbaugh and Reed are like oil and water. Immiscible people with the same end goal. Reed is a free flower in thought and talk, Harbaugh on the other hand is a guy who says what he thinks we need to hear or not. He is guarded, will lie in a heartbeat to serve team needs, etc. Reed wears truth and his heart on his sleeves and is prone to emotions. Most of all, the two can't get along. While Reed is the epitome of a Baltimore Raven, John is on his last leg here if he can't get us to the playoffs. Next year, if we fail to make the playoff again John will be fired and the new coach may ask Reed to come coach for him.

What couch did they sit on while you examined their mind lol. John will not be fired. Reed should never coach in Bmore. It would be awful should he have to be let go. Same with Ray.

[bigcatfrank1]

annually is the only way to look at a multi year contract from a planning standpoint. If the Ravens can re-sign Williams at a number that works for both of them that is what matters. My opinion is the Ravens can expect to dedicate 10mil per year to the defensive leader on this team. That right now is Williams.
Suggs is the Veteran leader, Weddle is the backfield captain and vet leader, Its time to lock down Williams to take the team to the high point, and invest as an overall leader. I think he can do it. He has the skills and savoy to pull this team together. Its not going to come from a CB, so lets not kid ourselves. The time is right. Some may have rather it had been KO or Nagta but the timing was not there, IT is now. Intangibles are sometimes as important as everything else in this game. 5 years /50 is a fair price for his talent. offer it and I bet he stays. There are ways to make that cap friendly or bonus filled,
The Ravens have ways to make this year financially work out quite nicely, stay with the core, allow a number of players to move if needed, rely on depth but don't pass on practically FA "sure things". Williams, Juice, Wagner, or playmakers Wallace, Webb and Pitta considering options.

[ellicottraven]

37 minutes ago, FloridalovesRavens said:

What couch did they sit on while you examined their mind lol. John will not be fired. Reed should never coach in Bmore. It would be awful should he have to be let go. Same with Ray.

Agreed about the turmoil if we hired him and had to let him go. However I wasn't sitting on a couch but was a fly on a nearby wall. The tension in that room was palpable. The guys refused to talk to each other!!

[bigcatfrank1]

“If letting go of the talented nose tackle means the Ravens can bring in a high-impact wide receiver or cornerback, it’s worth it in the long run."

Logic challenge: Change that "or" to an "and" to become a true statement.

First of all it shouldn't. The CB squad just played lousy. replace them all except Smith and Young.
The Ravens should be able to acquire a CB if they want to, cap space wouldn't really be the main issue, the key is if the player is worth the money considering the Ravens have Smith and Young. SO if you want to pay for a high impact CB get rid of Smith. Otherwise pay smart and get a talented NFL CB of near equal talent, that can step in and not fall apart like what happened last year.

WR- again the Ravens need a playmaker who knows their place. Wallace, Perriman and Moore are high skill players they just need a supporting member. Someone who can hold on to the football, draw coverage, execute routes, extend plays and constantly work hard get open for Flacco while on the field.

If you want to trade dollars, NT is not the position to do it. We can use a Leveon Bell, lets give Pittsvile Suggs and Dumervil for Bell, they wouldn't take it in a million years- that's how much money he will make this year. The Ravens have money tied up in a few wrong places. time to let Dumervil Go, now him I would trade salaries for a CB or WR

[hen826957]

I would hire Ed as the secondary coach of the Ravens if was the organization. He will get us some swagger back. I'll give him a shot. He did also led the Bills secondary rated number 6 in the NFL last year.

[hen826957]

6 hours ago, FloridalovesRavens said:

10 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Why can't we get that Harbaugh and Reed are like oil and water. Immiscible people with the same end goal. Reed is a free flower in thought and talk, Harbaugh on the other hand is a guy who says what he thinks we need to hear or not. He is guarded, will lie in a heartbeat to serve team needs, etc. Reed wears truth and his heart on his sleeves and is prone to emotions. Most of all, the two can't get along. While Reed is the epitome of a Baltimore Raven, John is on his last leg here if he can't get us to the playoffs. Next year, if we fail to make the playoff again John will be fired and the new coach may ask Reed to come coach for him.

What couch did they sit on while you examined their mind lol. John will not be fired. Reed should never coach in Bmore. It would be awful should he have to be let go. Same with Ray.

Why you don't want Ed Reed or even Ray Lewis coaching here? IMO, I would love either of them to coach here with the Ravens. If Ray wants to coach, l would love to see him as a LB coach or defensive coordinator with the Ravens. Either a secondary coach from Ed or LB or defensive coordinater from Ray l will be happy with. I wouldn't want them as a head coach because they don't have any good experiences. 

Edited February 10 by hen826957

[Ravenseconbeast]

It looks like Ed Reed has an appreciation of what the 'other' side of the game looks like. Im glad he saw it as an eye opener. He wish to get a coaching position as a assistant DB coach, i think he can get it somewhere.

Wish the legend luck!