[News] Late For Work 2/7: Super Bowl LII Odds Are In. Where Do Ravens Stand?

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Ray Lewis should be a HOF lock, but Terrell Owens shows why it'll be tough for Steve Smith. Could Ryan Mallett get a starting job? Falcons provide a lesson in running football.

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[BavarianRaven]

As a german I'm not very in to college football..
Will there be any QB prospects worth to pick on day three of the draft? I really think Joe needs to be challenged by a fresh young backup so he can rise back to his best football. Don't think Mallet or Schaub gave him this challenge.

Anyway am I the only one who wonders why the Colts seem to be overrated every single season?!?

Sorry for my bad english and best wishes from germany!
#Ravens@SBLII

[eek]

"Jones is likely referring to when Atlanta was up 28-20 and had the ball on first-and-10 at the Patriots’ 22 with three minutes, 56 seconds to play. Had the Falcons run the ball three times to run the clock down and kick the field goal, it would have been a two-score game (if the kick was successful) with about three minutes left."

Sarah, what Jones is most likely refering to is once the score was 28-3, the falcons proceeded to run the ball 5 more times for the rest of the game. They could've settled that game long before that 28-20 situation.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

Matt Schaub is going to get a chance to be a starting QB again? Really? If that is actually true then by all means Ryan Mallet has a chance at being a starter again. There are plenty of teams out there that need QB's and he could be a relative cheap option that you bring in to camp and let battle out with some other arms. If he loses the starting role he could be the back up.

I don't recall hearing any issues with Ryan and that's exactly what he needed to do. He needed to keep his nose clean and just do his job. The arm has always been there, it has always been about what's from the neck up.

If Schaub can cure his pick six demons that would be cool, but I still can't believe what I watched when he played for the Ravens...knowing this was a continuing trend from his last season in Houston.

[ellicottraven]

As a funny aside, that picture of Flacco with that particular hairstyle and look reminds me of Jim Carrey in one of his movies but can't remember which...

[b93333]

I wouldn't be too surprised if Mallett gets a chance at a starting job somewhere in the league... if he does I can't wait to compare his stats with Joe's.

[BiggMack91]

nothing has changed since last year until we make some drastic changes with our coaching,scheme,leadership and getting playmakers nothing will change and we will not get to the playoffs let alone the Super Bowl but lets be optimistic about everything and hope that we can make some good free agency moves have a great draft an we get on the same page with all aspects of our game lets go Ravens Nation

[b93333]

As a german I'm not very in to college football..
Will there be any QB prospects worth to pick on day three of the draft? I really think Joe needs to be challenged by a fresh young backup so he can rise back to his best football. Don't think Mallet or Schaub gave him this challenge.

Anyway am I the only one who wonders why the Colts seem to be overrated every single season?!?

Sorry for my bad english and best wishes from germany!
#Ravens@SBLII

Contractually we have no choice but to stick with Flacco for another three years. If we draft a QB, it would have to be in the later rounds on a player who might possible develop. New England got Brady in the 6th round for example. We have way too many holes to fill to draft a QB who will sit before round 6 or 7.

[BavarianRaven]

  40 minutes ago, BavarianRaven said:

As a german I'm not very in to college football..
Will there be any QB prospects worth to pick on day three of the draft? I really think Joe needs to be challenged by a fresh young backup so he can rise back to his best football. Don't think Mallet or Schaub gave him this challenge.

Anyway am I the only one who wonders why the Colts seem to be overrated every single season?!?

Sorry for my bad english and best wishes from germany!
#Ravens@SBLII

Contractually we have no choice but to stick with Flacco for another three years. If we draft a QB, it would have to be in the later rounds on a player who might possible develop. New England got Brady in the 6th round for example. We have way too many holes to fill to draft a QB who will sit before round 6 or 7.

I totally agree we do have way bigger needs at pass rush, DB and WR. I hope we can fix some of that via free agency and draft.
I also don't want Flacco to go! Hope he will last as our QB for many years. I think he got all an elite QB needs.. altough he couldn't show it very much this season (due to his injury and some other reasons).

I don't want them to draft a QB who can start for us next season, but I am wondering if there would be someone who offers a fresh breeze to our QB situation and who can develop and learn from Joe.
In most draft classes there are talented and underestimated young guys in the later rounds (Brady, Prescott,...).

[ellicottraven]

Expecting different outcomes doing the same thing with the same people is kind of foolish. We need to get playmakers on offense. We need to be a run first team for us to be remotely successful. Flacco isn't going to pass his way into the playoffs. Flacco needs incredibly rock solid protection for however long it takes him to throw the ball to wide open receivers. So draft either a stud RB like Fournette, WR like Williams or even the best O-lineman in the draft in the first round. There's plenty of depth available for pass rushers and CBs in this particular draft. So focus on playmakers on offense so there is not so much pressure on Flacco to win games by himself.

[eze17]

T.O. is lying...if the HOF meant nothing to him, he wouldn't even bother responding. Maybe you should have accepted that trade to B-More and things may have worked out different. You'll get in eventually, but glad their making you wait.

[rmcjacket23]

  55 minutes ago, b93333 said:

  1 hour ago, BavarianRaven said:

As a german I'm not very in to college football..
Will there be any QB prospects worth to pick on day three of the draft? I really think Joe needs to be challenged by a fresh young backup so he can rise back to his best football. Don't think Mallet or Schaub gave him this challenge.

Anyway am I the only one who wonders why the Colts seem to be overrated every single season?!?

Sorry for my bad english and best wishes from germany!
#Ravens@SBLII

Contractually we have no choice but to stick with Flacco for another three years. If we draft a QB, it would have to be in the later rounds on a player who might possible develop. New England got Brady in the 6th round for example. We have way too many holes to fill to draft a QB who will sit before round 6 or 7.

I totally agree we do have way bigger needs at pass rush, DB and WR. I hope we can fix some of that via free agency and draft.
I also don't want Flacco to go! Hope he will last as our QB for many years. I think he got all an elite QB needs.. altough he couldn't show it very much this season (due to his injury and some other reasons).

I don't want them to draft a QB who can start for us next season, but I am wondering if there would be someone who offers a fresh breeze to our QB situation and who can develop and learn from Joe.
In most draft classes there are talented and underestimated young guys in the later rounds (Brady, Prescott,...).

Well, lets be realistic also. A day 3 draft pick isn't being chosen to "challenge" Joe for a starting job. He's being brought in to challenge for a backup job, and MAYBE, if he's a once in a generational player like Brady is, after 2-3 years, MAYBE he would be in a position to compete for the starting job.

While there are plenty of good players who get drafted on day 3 or even go undrafted, the fact that Brady is the most common one referenced, and he was drafted 17 years ago, kind of tells us all we need to know about just how many effective QBs come out of day 3.

Its a coin toss these days whether you can get an effective QB in round 1. It only decreases in odds with every round you wait.

[rmcjacket23]

I wouldn't be too surprised if Mallett gets a chance at a starting job somewhere in the league... if he does I can't wait to compare his stats with Joe's.

I think everybody said this after last season, when he actually got playing time and looked mildly competent.

He didn't get any starting jobs then, so what has changed in the last year that makes people think he will now?

Keep in mind also that there's some significantly better QBs that could be available this offseason than last offseason, namely your Romo's, Cutler's, Glennon's, Garoppolo's, etc.

At best, he gets a team to bring him in to compete for a job. My guess is he sticks on a team as a strict backup, very possibly in Baltimore.

[DoubleP]

Expecting different outcomes doing the same thing with the same people is kind of foolish. We need to get playmakers on offense. We need to be a run first team for us to be remotely successful. Flacco isn't going to pass his way into the playoffs. Flacco needs incredibly rock solid protection for however long it takes him to throw the ball to wide open receivers. So draft either a stud RB like Fournette, WR like Williams or even the best O-lineman in the draft in the first round. There's plenty of depth available for pass rushers and CBs in this particular draft. So focus on playmakers on offense so there is not so much pressure on Flacco to win games by himself.

I hope the F.O. gets to see your post! Trade up in the draft for either Leonard Fournette, Mike Williams or Dalvin Cook... or stay at 16 and hope for Takkarist Mckinley or best tackle available!

[rmcjacket23]

"Jones is likely referring to when Atlanta was up 28-20 and had the ball on first-and-10 at the Patriots’ 22 with three minutes, 56 seconds to play. Had the Falcons run the ball three times to run the clock down and kick the field goal, it would have been a two-score game (if the kick was successful) with about three minutes left."

Sarah, what Jones is most likely refering to is once the score was 28-3, the falcons proceeded to run the ball 5 more times for the rest of the game. They could've settled that game long before that 28-20 situation.

No real issue or more opportunities other than the last drive. Look at how the drives went:

2:06 of the 3rd, up 28-9:

9 yard completion on 1st down, called for holding on a run play on 2nd down, now making it 2nd and 11. Obvious passing down goes INC and sack, and they punt.

9:44 of the 4th, up 28-12:

Run for 8, run for 1, throw on 3rd down and get sack/fumble. Turn the ball over.

5:56 of the 4th, up 28-20:

Long completion on 1st, 2 yard run on 1st, long completion on 2nd. -1 yard run on 1st, sack on 2nd and 11 (obvious passing down), holding penalty, INC, punt

What you should be asking is... why did they gain a total of 9 yards on those 5 runs?

[Chuckx999]

Lets start with the O line. We need a center and one more. Then 2 fast DB's and another fast LB. A fast WR that can catch would be great but we know Ozzie can't pick WR's. A QB would also help, Flacco isn't what he once was and isn't going to get better, only get worse. Get a guy who could sit for a year or two, learn the pro game would be GREAT but If he could replace Flacco right away that would be even better. People just have to face that FACT that Flacco isn't that great. Strong arm but can't hit simple passes that get first downs and keeps the offense on the field. "3 and out Flacco" is NOT worth the money he's being paid.
Throw in a RB that can gain 3-5 yards at a time, eat some clock time would be a BIG bonus

[sami]

As a funny aside, that picture of Flacco with that particular hairstyle and look reminds me of Jim Carrey in one of his movies but can't remember which...

Me Myself and Irene.

[ravenwildman]

I find it ...disheartening... that Jerry Jones is in the HOF and Art Modell is still being snub :( GO RAVENS!

[robbie29]

Lets start with the O line. We need a center and one more. Then 2 fast DB's and another fast LB. A fast WR that can catch would be great but we know Ozzie can't pick WR's. A QB would also help, Flacco isn't what he once was and isn't going to get better, only get worse. Get a guy who could sit for a year or two, learn the pro game would be GREAT but If he could replace Flacco right away that would be even better. People just have to face that FACT that Flacco isn't that great. Strong arm but can't hit simple passes that get first downs and keeps the offense on the field. "3 and out Flacco" is NOT worth the money he's being paid.
Throw in a RB that can gain 3-5 yards at a time, eat some clock time would be a BIG bonus

So you're essentially saying that the Ravens need a roster overhaul to become good again?

[eze17]

I find it ...disheartening... that Jerry Jones is in the HOF and Art Modell is still being snub :( GO RAVENS!

As I understand it, basically one writer from Cleveland, who has a HOF vote, has a total vendetta against Modell and uses his influence to keep him out of the HOF...Really is a shame that such a groundbreaking owner is still being punished for moving his team to Baltimore.

[RavenLunatic]

Lets start with the O line. We need a center and one more. Then 2 fast DB's and another fast LB. A fast WR that can catch would be great but we know Ozzie can't pick WR's. A QB would also help, Flacco isn't what he once was and isn't going to get better, only get worse. Get a guy who could sit for a year or two, learn the pro game would be GREAT but If he could replace Flacco right away that would be even better. People just have to face that FACT that Flacco isn't that great. Strong arm but can't hit simple passes that get first downs and keeps the offense on the field. "3 and out Flacco" is NOT worth the money he's being paid.
Throw in a RB that can gain 3-5 yards at a time, eat some clock time would be a BIG bonus

Anything else?

[ellicottraven]

44 minutes ago, robbie29 said:

So you're essentially saying that the Ravens need a roster overhaul to become good again?

Not quite, I think he's suggesting Flacco be cut or released or whatever else one can do with Flacco! Only problem is Flacco isn't going anywhere at least for a couple or 3 yrs. So, any suggestions have to keep Flacco as a constant with everybody else as variables. That is the position we put ourselves in after handing him his first extension of 3 yrs and 66M recently.

[Purple Dawg 96]

People saw when Joe Flacco tried to get off a pass before Troy Polomalu stripped him costing us a Super Bowl and that very very very bad pass against the pats costing us another Super Bowl is why people don't have faith in him or us! Should have 4 Super Bowls to this date and we wouldn't be so looked down upon! Smh

[Purple Dawg 96]

The Ravens are built like the pats the only difference is one QB plays with alot of fire and one doesn't! It is what it is!

[Crimson Raven]

  3 hours ago, BavarianRaven said:

  4 hours ago, b93333 said:

  4 hours ago, BavarianRaven said:

As a german I'm not very in to college football..
Will there be any QB prospects worth to pick on day three of the draft? I really think Joe needs to be challenged by a fresh young backup so he can rise back to his best football. Don't think Mallet or Schaub gave him this challenge.

Anyway am I the only one who wonders why the Colts seem to be overrated every single season?!?

Sorry for my bad english and best wishes from germany!
#Ravens@SBLII

Contractually we have no choice but to stick with Flacco for another three years. If we draft a QB, it would have to be in the later rounds on a player who might possible develop. New England got Brady in the 6th round for example. We have way too many holes to fill to draft a QB who will sit before round 6 or 7.

I totally agree we do have way bigger needs at pass rush, DB and WR. I hope we can fix some of that via free agency and draft.
I also don't want Flacco to go! Hope he will last as our QB for many years. I think he got all an elite QB needs.. altough he couldn't show it very much this season (due to his injury and some other reasons).

I don't want them to draft a QB who can start for us next season, but I am wondering if there would be someone who offers a fresh breeze to our QB situation and who can develop and learn from Joe.
In most draft classes there are talented and underestimated young guys in the later rounds (Brady, Prescott,...).

Well, lets be realistic also. A day 3 draft pick isn't being chosen to "challenge" Joe for a starting job. He's being brought in to challenge for a backup job, and MAYBE, if he's a once in a generational player like Brady is, after 2-3 years, MAYBE he would be in a position to compete for the starting job.

While there are plenty of good players who get drafted on day 3 or even go undrafted, the fact that Brady is the most common one referenced, and he was drafted 17 years ago, kind of tells us all we need to know about just how many effective QBs come out of day 3.

Its a coin toss these days whether you can get an effective QB in round 1. It only decreases in odds with every round you wait.

Seriously some people think great quarterbacks grow on trees. We were lucky to get Flacco and the Falcons were lucky to get Ryan. I remember those years before him when we had in prime best linebackers, safety, offensive tackle, and great tight end and running backs, and couldn't make it past the first round.

[trevorsteadman]

3 minutes ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

The Ravens are built like the pats the only difference is one QB plays with alot of fire and one doesn't! It is what it is!

You definitely haven't seen any Ravens or Patriots games in the past 12 years then.....

[Crusader]

I find it ...disheartening... that Jerry Jones is in the HOF and Art Modell is still being snub :( GO RAVENS!

It's 100% BULL CRAP and Steve B should say something. If you don't think the NFL does not have it in for Ravens here is just one for your proof. Art Modell founded the NFL. Baltimore should protest that!

[Crusader]

As a german I'm not very in to college football..
Will there be any QB prospects worth to pick on day three of the draft? I really think Joe needs to be challenged by a fresh young backup so he can rise back to his best football. Don't think Mallet or Schaub gave him this challenge.

Anyway am I the only one who wonders why the Colts seem to be overrated every single season?!?

Sorry for my bad english and best wishes from germany!
#Ravens@SBLII

None worth taking until 5th or 6th round. Ravens have too many other spots that need fixed.

[fluffy201]

Superbowl ? You gotta be kidding me. It's not like we have just a couple holes to fill, the Ravens have a lot of holes to fill. Wr, O line, D line, secondary, inside line backer, outside line backer, coaching ? How about just one play maker.........please. Hate to be pessimistic, but it just how I see it.

[The Beak]

Not beating a dead horse, but it will be difficult making big improvements with this coaching staff, Romans may help a little, but if we stick with Morning wigs stupid play calls, and Pees chicken attitude, we are just running in place. The way to improve Joe is to build a quality run game , but we have a major hole (see J Zuttah) Would love to see B Marshall or T Pryor to give The WR position some toughness... Draft Day we need CB CB CB ..