2017 Forum Mock: Discussion Thread

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1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

And now that Eastern festivities have concluded, here are my thoughts on my recent picks.

1.  Dieugot Joseph - Needs to add a little bit of weight but the size and mobility is intriguing.  Needs a lot of technique work as well but should be a good PS project.

2.  Noble Nwachukwu - Not much I liked out there at pass rusher, but Noble was my highest rated one left.  He's a bit of a tweener and has never really put up the sack numbers, but he can be a stand up rusher and also put his hand in the dirt.

3.  Treston Decoud - I'm not as high on him as some as a CB, but I like him at S.  Don't think he has the athleticism to stick long term but I think there's enough there for him to project as a cover 2 S.  Worth a shot this late.

4.  DeAngelo Yancey - The tape doesn't look great but there are tons of people saying that the offensive system limited him.  He's another one of those guys who is taking 848 visits so I figured he was worth a shot.

5.  Darrell Daniels - Another all catchy, no blocky TE.  The athleticism is there but he's still raw, so another potential project piece.

6.  Deyshawn Bond - If he had an extra 15 pounds, I think he'd be one of the better Cs in the draft.  He plays with power for a smaller guy, but also has great movement skills.  Of course, his frame looks close to maxed but undersized guys can still make it.

I was considering Yancey as well, if it helps.

[rmw10]

@jazz1988 OTC

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The signings are in. I honestly wasn't aware of Arthur Maulet until yesterday when scouring through the highlights on the Patriots draft website. I ended up watching his game against Houston wherein he was credit for 4 PDs. I was only able to spot three of them (Link1, Link2, Link3), but I was very much impressed with what I saw considering there were also multiple incompletions thrown in his direction. With regards to the regular season, he was the most targeted CB in the entire country, but he only allowed 423 yards, an allowed QB rating 60.5 with the 4th least yards per target across all CBs. And his numbers were even better in the slot. PFF grades can be spotty if used as the sole means of projection from college to the pros considering that they're derived almost entirely from the bottom line, but in Maulet's case, it was a positive to see him place his 2015 campaign in the rear view mirror, where he was legitimately one of the worst graded CBs, to being their 3rd highest graded CB in the nation this year. I feel like he could be a draftable prospect, or at least a UDFA who could stick on the roster somewhere. Brown, on the other hand, was also highly productive, but his athletic limitations cap his ceiling. He'll likely settle in as an early down defender. Mizzell is an interesting prospect due to his ability in the open field and as a receiver. He's been somewhat dynamic over the years.

[rmw10]

For final FFA, anyone opposed to signing 1 player every night or 8 hours or something starting tomorrow at 7pm? Probably not enough interest for anyone to sort through the list. People will just kind of  have to do their own research on who is available and who isn't. 

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3 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

For final FFA, anyone opposed to signing 1 player every night or 8 hours or something starting tomorrow at 7pm? Probably not enough interest for anyone to sort through the list. People will just kind of  have to do their own research on who is available and who isn't. 

I'm all for it.

[ArsenalRaven666]

3 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

For final FFA, anyone opposed to signing 1 player every night or 8 hours or something starting tomorrow at 7pm? Probably not enough interest for anyone to sort through the list. People will just kind of  have to do their own research on who is available and who isn't. 

Trawling the cut threads starts ...

[rmw10]

And that will do it for my UDFA run.  I'm at 90 but might swap a couple out if I find a FA or 2 worth signing.

Edited April 17 by rmw10

[rmw10]

And @jazz1988 I know Gonzalez has already gone.

[jazz1988]

58 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

And @jazz1988 I know Gonzalez has already gone.

Oh wow I didn't even see this at first but thanks for point this out. I'll change it soon.

[allblackraven]

2 hours ago, rmw10 said:

And @jazz1988 I know Gonzalez has already gone.

 

1 hour ago, jazz1988 said:

Oh wow I didn't even see this at first but thanks for point this out. I'll change it soon.

5th round, baby

[jazz1988]

43 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

 

5th round, baby

lol gotcha 

[rmw10]

Through that entire UDFA period, the only guy I wanted that I didn't get was Nate Hairston.  Admittedly, I wasn't as aware of some of those unknown guys as I have been in the past, but it was hard for that to go much better for me.  Having only 5 people helps a ton as well.

[rossihunter2]

Some really good udfa signings here - a lot of guys I'd consider draftable

[Ed_Reed20]

Love the Stacy Coley pick by Oakland. I won't be surprised if he goes undrafted in real life but the talent is there for him to be a solid WR in the league. 

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6 minutes ago, Ed_Reed20 said:

Love the Stacy Coley pick by Oakland. I won't be surprised if he goes undrafted in real life but the talent is there for him to be a solid WR in the league. 

Ah, that's great to hear. I was actually going to message you to get your thoughts because of how much you watch their program. What's your scouting report on Coley? I've read multiple reports about a supposed lack of passion, which were alarming. Skill set wise, I did feel that his route running wasn't as nuanced, but I did like that he'd consistently attempt to pluck the football, especially when adjusting to difficult attempts.

[ArsenalRaven666]

Dangnabit !! forgot to draft a LT in the draft to complete a full team of draftees

[ArsenalRaven666]

I drafted a team ...

QB   DeShone Kizer   CJ Beathard

RB   Christian McCaffrey   Wayne Gallman   De'Angelo Henderson

FB   Sam Rogers

WR   Shelton Gibson   Isaiah McKenzie

TE   George Kittle

LT   ???

LG   Isaac Asiata

C   Ethan Pocic

RG   Sean Harlow   Ben Braden

RT   Erik Magnusson

 

DE   Taco Charton

DT   DJ Jones   Davon Godchaux

DE   Derek Rivers

OLB   Solomon Thomas

ILB   Raekwon McMillan

ILB   Duke Riley

OLB   Marquel Lee

SS   Xavier Woods   Weston Steelhammer

FS   Rayshawn Jenkins

CB   Chidobe Awuzie

CB   Cameron Sutton

CB   Brian Allen

[Ed_Reed20]

1 hour ago, -Truth- said:

Ah, that's great to hear. I was actually going to message you to get your thoughts because of how much you watch their program. What's your scouting report on Coley? I've read multiple reports about a supposed lack of passion, which were alarming. Skill set wise, I did feel that his route running wasn't as nuanced, but I did like that he'd consistently attempt to pluck the football, especially when adjusting to difficult attempts.

In short, Coley is a quality athlete with plus ability on contested catches. He never seemed to fulfil the promise he showed as a freshman at Miami and part of that is certainly on him but the passing game was always erratic, there were other talented receivers who commanded targets and coaching changes didn't help either. Hoping he lands with the right team and surprises people like Allen Hurns did.  

Edited April 17 by Ed_Reed20

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24 minutes ago, Ed_Reed20 said:

In short, Coley is a quality athlete with plus ability on contested catches. He never seemed to fulfil the promise he showed as a freshman at Miami and part of that is certainly on him but the passing game was always erratic, there were other talented receivers who commanded targets and coaching changes didn't help either. Hoping he lands with the right team and surprises people like Allen Hurns did.  

I'm with you. I did feel like he did a good job on the contested catches, especially since some were floated in there softer than expected at time. Ah, makes sense with regards to the receivers (And TEs with David Njoku in mind) and the coaching. I hope so as well.

[rmw10]

Ya'll just want to sign a FA every hour?  Really, I doubt there's going to be much interest and I'm going for a max of 2 guys.

[ArsenalRaven666]

1 minute ago, rmw10 said:

Ya'll just want to sign a FA every hour?  Really, I doubt there's going to be much interest and I'm going for a max of 2 guys.

Really only after 3 players and other to take squad size close to the 90

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13 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Ya'll just want to sign a FA every hour?  Really, I doubt there's going to be much interest and I'm going for a max of 2 guys.

Yeah, that works. Who'll open the thread?

Edited April 17 by -Truth-

[rmw10]

4 minutes ago, -Truth- said:

Yeah, that works. Who'll open the thread?

I'll just open it now and we can go crazy at 7

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Just now, rmw10 said:

I'll just open it now and we can go crazy at 7

Sweet. Thank you.

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Can I claim Seth Roberts? He was apparently an ERFA and wasn't claimed by anyone in the FA period. Oakland was listed as having no ERFAs or RFAs at the start of this FM by Spotrac, which was surprising at the time. This looks similar to the Ty Nsekhe situation.

Edited April 17 by -Truth-

[ArsenalRaven666]

5 minutes ago, -Truth- said:

Can I claim Seth Roberts? He was apparently an ERFA and wasn't claimed by anyone in the FA period. Oakland was listed as having no ERFAs or RFAs at the start of this FM by Spotrac, which was surprising at the time. This looks similar to the Ty Nsekhe situation.

Don't see it as an issue.

Didnt realise can only bid 1 player at a time, late night for me.

[ArsenalRaven666]

Can you not bid against others in this ??

 

 

Edited April 17 by ArsenalRaven666

[rmw10]

3 minutes ago, ArsenalRaven666 said:

Is there not a bidoff in this ??

 

Nope you're just signing guys.  In the past we ran it like a standard FA period but with the lack of interest this year, figured we'd just end it.

[ArsenalRaven666]

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Nope you're just signing guys.  In the past we ran it like a standard FA period but with the lack of interest this year, figured we'd just end it.

Would have been good to know that there was no bidding.

You guys beat me

[rmw10]

2 minutes ago, ArsenalRaven666 said:

Would have been good to know that there was no bidding.

You guys beat me

To be fair, it says it right in the thread lol