The Super Bowl Thread

[BmoreBird22]

37 minutes ago, arnie_uk said:

Never once did I claim you did. You said he had a really good game.  I disagreed. He made one nfl MVP type throw and a couple of good ones. Everything else,maybe 75 prevent of his completions was to wide open men.

I expected a lot more from a guy that was voted league MVP. 

He wasn't the MVP imo. That was Rodgers. But that's another argument. 

I don't know exactly what more you wanted him to do. He completed over 70% of his passes, led his team into scoring range more often than not, and was under pressure on almost 60% of his drop backs. 

What exactly do you want him to do?

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

We should protest and demand that the league do a recount vote. Raise $5 million

[BmoreBird22]

2 hours ago, Tank 92 said:

While the Falcons defensive collapse is hard to fathom, their offense really did nothing in the second half to help them. Other than the one TD drive Ryan and Co. stunk it up bad and gave their D no rest time whatsoever. While circumstances may not have been perfect, I would have expected much more from the guy selected as the league's MVP and that stable of weapons. Even just a little bit of production in the 4th quarter could have put the game out of reach and saved the day for them. 

I think people quickly forget Joe only managed to lead the Ravens to 6 points in the second half of the Super Bowl and that the Ravens once led 28-6. In many ways, this was the Ravens Super Bowl without the magical stop at the end.

[BmoreBird22]

28 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

quite curious on what you wanted him to do considering he pressured on most of his drop backs lol

Become Michael Vick or Roethlisberger and scramble around for 27 years before making an amazing wide open downfield pass because of the time he bought.

But in all seriousness, why are people knocking him for making wide open throws or throws that aren't as difficult as the one that Julio made over Rowe? He took what the defense gave him and generally put the Falcons into a very good position to win.

[Tru11]

3 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I think people quickly forget Joe only managed to lead the Ravens to 6 points in the second half of the Super Bowl and that the Ravens once led 28-6. In many ways, this was the Ravens Super Bowl without the magical stop at the end.

they did not forget.

different standards for Joe that is all.....

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, Tru11 said:

they did not forget.

different standards for Joe that is all.....

Seriously.

Joe has a game like that where he's pressured on nearly 60% of drop backs or has a back miss blocks and people would be shredding his offensive line or Marty, not saying he needed to play a better game.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just now, Tru11 said:

they did not forget.

different standards for Joe that is all.....

Nah, Matt Ryan didn't have the stupid power go out which robbed us of literally all the momentum on both sides of the ball. There's a legit excuse for that. The fact that we came out of that with a victory is just a total sigh of relief. All of us(along with most of the league) would have called foul play in all likelihood because that was super fishy....

 

this is in the other hand was fair sadly.

[Tank 92]

35 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

They ran 5 times after the half, and had yet another nice run from Freeman in there.  Not every run is going to get you yards of course, but they had been running the ball real well up until that point.  The larger point here is the untimeliness of their choices not to run.  2nd and 1 when trying to run the clock and get at least a FG to try to put the game out of reach.

I thought they ran it 5 times after scoring their last TD? No matter. I'm not disagreeing at all that they should have gone run in a couple of instances, but overall the ratio wasn't bad. In the end poor execution for pretty much all of the second half is what got them. The missed face mask that would have off set the holding call that took them out of FG range didn't help either. But after the TD it was just just a total collapse on both offense and defense. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Not blaming Ryan at all here(the falcons defense collapsed big time along with the play calling), but come on. Don't compare us to this. They didn't have some [profanity deleted] accident that stopped total game time for over a half hour. Before the stupid outage we had just stopped them on defense and were about to get the ball back. Before that Jacoby had his return. We had literally all the momentum and we were probably going to score more(granted we have no way of knowing, but still. All momentum was stalled because of the outage). We were lucky to come out of that victorious. Hell, I've lived in the Bay Area, and they know that if not for the outage there's probably not a chance in hell that they come back

 

 

edit. Why is the word f.r.e.a.k in the profanity filter?

Edited February 6 by LosT_in_TranSlatioN

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, Tank 92 said:

I thought they ran it 5 times after scoring their last TD? No matter. I'm not disagreeing at all that they should have gone run in a couple of instances, but overall the ratio wasn't bad. In the end poor execution for pretty much all of the second half is what got them. The missed face mask that would have off set the holding call that took them out of FG range didn't help either. But after the TD it was just just a total collapse on both offense and defense. 

They ran 10 times total in the second half, which isn't bad, but it was the timing of not running.  The ran 5 times to get to 28 points, and only 5 times afterwards.  The ratio doesn't look bad on the surface, but when you're up 25 in the 3rd Q, you have to start running that clock.

[Tru11]

2 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Nah, Matt Ryan didn't have the stupid power go out which robbed us of literally all the momentum on both sides of the ball. There's a legit excuse for that. The fact that we came out of that with a victory is just a total sigh of relief. All of us(along with most of the league) would have called foul play in all likelihood because that was super fishy....

 

this is in the other hand was fair sadly.

ow now all of sudden its a legit excuse?

i remember using that excuse to plea for the defense and even bringing up how bad the offense was as well after it happened and got scrutinized for it....

 

 

 

[BmoreBird22]

4 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Not blaming Ryan at all here(the falcons defense collapsed big time along with the play calling), but come on. Don't compare us to this. They didn't have some [profanity deleted] accident that stopped total game time for over a half hour. Before the stupid outage we had just stopped them on defense and were about to get the ball back. Before that Jacoby had his return. We had literally all the momentum and we were probably going to score more(granted we have no way of knowing, but still. All momentum was stalled because of the outage). We were lucky to come out of that victorious. Hell, I've lived in the Bay Area, and they know that if not for the outage there's probably not a chance in hell that they come back

 

 

edit. Why is the word f.r.e.a.k in the profanity filter?

Similar to the Ravens offense, the Falcons offense was off the field for like 1 hour and 20 minutes+ before they got back on the field after halftime. 

That's a major blow to any momentum right there.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

2 hours ago, Tru11 said:

ow now all of sudden its a legit excuse?

i remember using that excuse to plea for the defense and even bringing up how bad the offense was as well after it happened and got scrutinized for it....

 

The defense during the sb we had was just.... bad lol. So bad that we've managed to field a better defense every year since then, including the year we had a losing season. Offensive momentum was stalled too, but as said previously, the outage messed up momentum on both sides of the ball.

 

Its not comparable. We had some accident stop play, and imo are lucky to have come out of that with a victory. The niners came out of the game with a fire under their butts and a whole new game plan. They essentially got a second halftime. So did we, but we didn't utilize it properly at all. 

 

This is a lot worse, which is a damn shame as I was rooting for Atlanta.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

28 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Similar to the Ravens offense, the Falcons offense was off the field for like 1 hour and 20 minutes+ before they got back on the field after halftime. 

That's a major blow to any momentum right there.

This game there wasn't an interruption that was the equivalent of a second halftime. We still had the momentum from the previous Jacoby TD and pulled a stop on defense. Power goes out, the niners use the extra time to readjust their game plan further.

 

The delay makes this non-comparable. It provided the niners with a significant advantage that they otherwise wouldn't have had  

Edited February 6 by LosT_in_TranSlatioN

[mg90]

28 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I think people quickly forget Joe only managed to lead the Ravens to 6 points in the second half of the Super Bowl and that the Ravens once led 28-6. In many ways, this was the Ravens Super Bowl without the magical stop at the end.

I noticed the same thing! When the Falcons got their pick six to start the second half, I almost expected a power outage lol.

 

Edit: or was it late 1st half?

Edited February 6 by mg90

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

4 minutes ago, mg90 said:

I noticed the same thing! When the Falcons got their pick six to start the second half, I almost expected a power outage lol.

 

Edit: or was it late 1st half?

Pick six was first half. Tevin Coleman TD was second half

[Tru11]

1 hour ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

The defense during the sb we had was just.... bad lol. So bad that we've managed to field a better defense every year since then, including the year we had a losing season. Offensive momentum was stalled too, but as said previously, the outage messed up momentum on both sides of the ball.

 

Its not comparable. We had some accident stop play, and imo are lucky to have come out of that with a victory. The niners came out of the game with a fire under their butts and a whole new game plan. They essentially got a second halftime. So did we, but we didn't utilize it properly at all. 

 

This is a lot worse, which is a damn shame as I was rooting for Atlanta.

Pls stop.

held luck to 9 points.

Forced numerous turnovers against manning including 1 for a TD and the game clinching that set up the game winning FG.

kept brady to 13 points in NE including shutting him out in the 2nd half.

kept the niners to 6 points before the lights went out.

that is what you called bad?

what a joke lol

selective memory.

the 2012 play off defense was that much better then the regular season defense.

Just go look up how many sacks and to they had not to mention points allowed in the play offs up till the lights went out....

hope you did not forget that plenty of the broncos points came on special teams...

[BmoreBird22]

25 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

This game there wasn't an interruption that was the equivalent of a second halftime. We still had the momentum from the previous Jacoby TD and pulled a stop on defense. Power goes out, the niners use the extra time to readjust their game plan further.

 

The delay makes this non-comparable. It provided the niners with a significant advantage that they otherwise wouldn't have had  

You think it's basically a non factor that they weren't on the field for almost 90 minutes? 

Got it.

[Tru11]

24 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

This game there wasn't an interruption that was the equivalent of a second halftime. We still had the momentum from the previous Jacoby TD and pulled a stop on defense. Power goes out, the niners use the extra time to readjust their game plan further.

 

The delay makes this non-comparable. It provided the niners with a significant advantage. 

what where our coaches doing?

[BmoreBird22]

7 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

Pls stop.

held luck to 9 points.

Forced numerous turnovers against manning including 1 for a TD and the game clinching that set up the game winning FG.

kept brady to 13 points in NE including shutting him out in the 2nd half.

kept the niners to 6 points before the lights went out.

that is what you called bad?

what a joke lol

selective memory.

the 2012 play off defense was that much better then the regular season defense.

Just go look up how many sacks and to they had not to mention points allowed in the play offs up till the lights went out....

hope you did not forget that plenty of the broncos points came on special teams...

I hate how we're going to sit here and call that Super Bowl defense bad.

No, that defense was not bad. That defense dealt with MANY key injuries during the season. Losing McClain, Lewis, Suggs, Jimmy, Webb, amongst others. 

That defense was able to get healthy at the right time and showcase their talents.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

7 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

You think it's basically a non factor that they weren't on the field for almost 90 minutes? 

Got it.

You said that they didn't get the ball for an hour and a half during before the third quarter, when they opened up the half with a Tevin coleman TD? Sure? Patriots were able to respond with a TD of their own(and then shanked the extra point which is still hilarious) but the falcons in spite of that were still able to score a TD on offense. And then they do basically nothing for the rest of the game. 

 

13 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

Pls stop.

held luck to 9 points.

Forced numerous turnovers against manning including 1 for a TD and the game clinching that set up the game winning FG.

kept brady to 13 points in NE including shutting him out in the 2nd half.

kept the niners to 6 points before the lights went out.

that is what you called bad?

what a joke lol

selective memory.

the 2012 play off defense was that much better then the regular season defense.

Just go look up how many sacks and to they had not to mention points allowed in the play offs up till the lights went out....

hope you did not forget that plenty of the broncos points came on special teams...

And yet the defense reverted back to regular season form after the outage.

 

now granted, Ngata who was our best player that year went down mid game so I'll admit to being wrong, it's been a heavy night of drinking after a terrible game, I'm sorry. But the falcons opened the half with an offensive touchdown, even after not being on the field after 90 minuets. 

 

Still not comparable

[BmoreBird22]

1 minute ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

You said that they didn't get the ball for an hour and a half during before the third quarter, when they opened up the half with a Tevin coleman TD? Sure? Patriots were able to respond with a TD of their own(and then shanked the extra point which is still hilarious) but the falcons in spite of that were still able to score a TD on offense. And then they do basically nothing for the rest of the game. 

Actually, they started out with a three and out. 

Then there were two blown coverages by the Patriots and a DPI that gave the Falcons a fresh set of downs. The offense never looked the same in the second half.

It's not comparable because we want the Ravens to have this special Super Bowl victory and want to make it seem like Flacco is superior for winning under similar circumstances.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

14 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

what where our coaches doing?

Probably the same thing, but it failed, and then ngata got hurt and we couldn't stop the run at all. But both teams came out of the outage completely different while the offense for the Falcons started the half strong before sputtering out of control after.

[Tank 92]

43 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Similar to the Ravens offense, the Falcons offense was off the field for like 1 hour and 20 minutes+ before they got back on the field after halftime. 

That's a major blow to any momentum right there.

This in no way was like the power outage, but I was thinking going into the half that they had not been on the field for a long time and wondered how it would affect them coming out in the second half. It took them a while to get going at the start of the game and now they had to start all over again.

With the quick three and out it looked like the lay off might have hurt the Falcons offense, but after their D forced a quick three and out they had a great scoring drive out picking up right where they left off in the first half. At that point they still had the momentum on their side and we're looking like winners. So it seems obvious that the extended time off the field isn't what caused the collapse. 

[Tru11]

1 minute ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

You said that they didn't get the ball for an hour and a half during before the third quarter, when they opened up the half with a Tevin coleman TD? Sure? Patriots were able to respond with a TD of their own(and then shanked the extra point which is still hilarious) but the falcons in spite of that were still able to score a TD on offense. And then they do basically nothing for the rest of the game. 

 

And yet the defense reverted back to regular season form after the outage.

 

now granted, Ngata who was our best player that year went down mid game so I'll admit to being wrong, it's been a heavy night of drinking after a terrible game, I'm sorry. But the falcons opened the half with an offensive touchdown, even after not being on the field after 90 minuets. 

 

Still not comparable

so did flacco and that offense.

6 points after the outage.

that is not what you call bad to?

only a legit excuse for the offense apperently lol

[BmoreBird22]

2 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

This in no way was like the power outage, but I was thinking going into the half that they had not been on the field for a long time and wondered how it would affect them coming out in the second half. It took them a while to get going at the start of the game and now they had to start all over again.

With the quick three and out it looked like the lay off might have hurt the Falcons offense, but after their D forced a quick three and out they had a great scoring drive out picking up right where they left off in the first half. At that point they still had the momentum on their side and we're looking like winners. So it seems obvious that the extended time off the field isn't what caused the collapse. 

How is it not like the power outage? I should ask that.

[Tru11]

3 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Probably the same thing, but it failed, and then ngata got hurt and we couldn't stop the run at all. But both teams came out of the outage completely different while the offense for the Falcons started the half strong before sputtering out of control after.

Pretty sure they went 3 and out coming out of the break.

after watching our offense for years i guess you can consider that strong lol

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

4 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Actually, they started out with a three and out. 

Then there were two blown coverages by the Patriots and a DPI that gave the Falcons a fresh set of downs. The offense never looked the same in the second half.

It's not comparable because we want the Ravens to have this special Super Bowl victory and want to make it seem like Flacco is superior for winning under similar circumstances.

My mistake for getting it wrong but they were still able to score coming out of the half. It took them a little bit but they still were able to score. Then it took the patriots six minuets to do anything, and then the falcons didn't do anything the rest of the game. 

 

So while it matters it's still not comprable. Not having the ball for a long time hurts, but the pats didn't get what was essentially a second half time to readjust their game plan. That time out gives the niners an advantage they otherwise don't have. 

[Tru11]

3 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

My mistake for getting it wrong but they were still able to score coming out of the half. It took them a little bit but they still were able to score. Then it took the patriots six minuets to do anything, and then the falcons didn't do anything the rest of the game. 

 

So while it matters it's still not comprable. Not having the ball for a long time hurts, but the pats didn't get what was essentially a second half time to readjust their game plan. That time out gives the niners an advantage they otherwise don't have. 

Well the pats dont need it.

unlike the niners the pats have been dominating the league for a while now.

giving the pats to little credit if you think they needed an extra break like the niners tbh

[Tank 92]

10 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

How is it not like the power outage? I should ask that.

LMAO!  Since you are asking there's really no reason to point out the obvious. But here's a fun fact in case you forgot......One of the reasons they were out so long was because their D got a pick six and extended the lead. Did that hurt them as well?  

There were no mysterious outside forces or shenanigans at work here. I have my own ideas as to why, but suffice it to say the Falcons choked, plain and simple.